NCAA Tournament

[GoldenEagles03]

I am absolutely rolling at this question posed by ZoneMadison.

https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1638498995113689088?t=iN-DWZI3hj2gFNcCNgIbFQ&s=19

Would you rather

1) Be bounced in the 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament
2) Make the Final Four of the NIT

These people are gigantic idiots over there.

[Oldgym]

They can't stop thinking about us I guess.

Hang a banner, Bucky.

[MuggsyB]

I am absolutely rolling at this question posed by ZoneMadison.

https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1638498995113689088?t=iN-DWZI3hj2gFNcCNgIbFQ&s=19

Would you rather

1) Be bounced in the 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament
2) Make the Final Four of the NIT

These people are gigantic idiots over there.

Is this supposed to be a comedy skit?

[Spotcheck Billy]

I am absolutely rolling at this question posed by ZoneMadison.

https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1638498995113689088?t=iN-DWZI3hj2gFNcCNgIbFQ&s=19

Would you rather

1) Be bounced in the 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament
2) Make the Final Four of the NIT

These people are gigantic idiots over there.

My favorite reply:

Based on the crowd on State St last evening to watch the game, it is clear most could care less that the Badgers are in the NIT. Walked the entire street and the establishments were empty. There were 6 of us watching at State St Brat.

[Viper]

I am absolutely rolling at this question posed by ZoneMadison.

https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1638498995113689088?t=iN-DWZI3hj2gFNcCNgIbFQ&s=19

Would you rather

1) Be bounced in the 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament
2) Make the Final Four of the NIT

These people are gigantic idiots over there.

there was a time when winning the NIT was great...like when we won it! But, by the mid 80's or so, the NIT really dropped off. Even when we made the NIT finals under Deane (lost in OT to VaTech), it was a let down. Now? It's a consolation prize, at best. I still hate that RED is alive (I probably want them to lose more than UW schlubs want to win), but the NIT is definitely chump change these days. In fact, I'm hearing the tourney might go away soon altogether.

[junglecat022]

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1638651600414846976?s=20

Possible that over-inflated/new basketballs played a roll in any of our TOs against MSU?

[GoldenEagles03]

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1638651600414846976?s=20

Possible that over-inflated/new basketballs played a roll in any of our TOs against MSU?

I can't speak on the turnovers but I can certainly say they were "different" and impacted some things.

https://twitter.com/PMTsportsbiz/status/1637827798533382144?t=sULZO5pYbxuFhNGLuJLbHQ&s=19

[panda]

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1638651600414846976?s=20

Possible that over-inflated/new basketballs played a roll in any of our TOs against MSU?

Nope - Izzo in march

[Dish]

UConn apparently didn't enjoy their time at the Luxor.

[We R Final Four]

Nope - Izzo in march

He had nothing to do with the win.

[mugrad_89]

I can't speak on the turnovers but I can certainly say they were "different" and impacted some things.

https://twitter.com/PMTsportsbiz/status/1637827798533382144?t=sULZO5pYbxuFhNGLuJLbHQ&s=19

They did the same damn thing with the ball last year.  I can't say how it impacted ball handling, but it definitely affected the shooting as it bounced differently off the rim.  Not sure what the NCAA was thinking, but I'm sure money was involved in their decision.

[MuggsyB]

He had nothing to do with the win.

100% correct.

0.000000000%

People need to stop being hoodwinked and manipulated. 

[rocky_warrior]

I mean, if you really think the team can't adjust to a "new" ball as fast as other teams do, then we should clean house now.

[We R Final Four]

100% correct.

0.000000000%

People need to stop being hoodwinked and manipulated.

Oh boy. It was inflategate.

[panda]

He had nothing to do with the win.

He was the one over inflating the balls. A reverse deflate gate if you will

[MuggsyB]

Marquette waa a F4 team if they played near their A game.   I couldn't give a flying f what anybody else thinks.  And we'll be back stronger than ever and redeem ourselves.  Izzo can go F himself as well. Total piece of garbage. 

[mugrad_89]

Marquette waa a F4 team if they played near their A game.   I couldn't give a flying f what anybody else thinks.  And we'll be back stronger than ever and redeem ourselves.  Izzo can go F himself as well. Total piece of garbage.

My dislike of Izzo isn't quite that high, but this is spot on.

[We R Final Four]

Marquette waa a F4 team if they played near their A game.   I couldn't give a flying f what anybody else thinks.  And we'll be back stronger than ever and redeem ourselves.  Izzo can go F himself as well. Total piece of garbage.

They didn't play their A game.......there are several reasons for that. Whether you like those reasons or not doesn't mean they aren't responsible.

[MuggsyB]

They didn't play their A game.......there are several reasons for that. Whether you like those reasons or not doesn't mean they aren't responsible.

Of course we are responsible.  I never shirk personal responsibility and that's why I'm still angry. 

[tower912]

I put it at 50% MSU defense, 40% Kolek's thumb, 10% nerves. 
Credit where it is due.

[MuggsyB]

I put it at 50% MSU defense, 40% Kolek's thumb, 10% nerves. 
Credit where it is due.

More like 10% MSU defense and 90% self-inflicted turns and terrible basketball which was a combination of nerves and TyKo's difficulties.  It's not like Michigan State played all that well either.  We played among the worst halves in the history of basketball and trailed by 5 after 20 mins.  They scouted TyKo no differently than the best teams in the BEast and were not among the best defensive teams this season.  This was primarily a self-inflicted disaster and  was not emblematic at all of the team we saw dominate the BEast conf. 
MIchigan State was 2-16 from diatance and yet won the game .  The turns and fouls, turns which we hadn't committed all year, were the freaking story and do not tell me they were forced.  They're weren't.  Fk Izzo.  He had nothing to do with our issues and is an assclown scumbag. 

[tower912]

Completely disagree on every level.  So be it.   I know you won't change my mind and I doubt I will change yours.   

[wisblue]

One thing this tournament has highlighted is how advancing can depend as much on matchups and some good fortune as landing a high seed.

Xavier with its 3 seed got a much more favorable second round matchup than MU, in part because of Pitt knocking off Iowa State.

Creighton got past Baylor and now only has a 15 seed standing in its path to the Elite 8 instead of 2 seed Arizona.  MU would have had a much tougher third round game against Kansas State.

MSU's physical style might have been a worse matchup for MU than some of the other 7 seeds or 6 seeds.

Then throw in Kolek's injury and MU's chances of advancing took a hit.

All reasons why I hate to give the March crapshoot so much weight in evaluating a team or conference.

[wisblue]

I am absolutely rolling at this question posed by ZoneMadison.

https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1638498995113689088?t=iN-DWZI3hj2gFNcCNgIbFQ&s=19

Would you rather

1) Be bounced in the 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament
2) Make the Final Four of the NIT

These people are gigantic idiots over there.

What can you expect from a fanbase that values winning the Weedeater Bowl over losing in the football playoffs?

[SaveOD238]

One thing this tournament has highlighted is how advancing can depend as much on matchups and some good fortune as landing a high seed.

Xavier with its 3 seed got a much more favorable second round matchup than MU, in part because of Pitt knocking off Iowa State.

Creighton got past Baylor and now only has a 15 seed standing in its path to the Elite 8 instead of 2 seed Arizona.  MU would have had a much tougher third round game against Kansas State.

MSU's physical style might have been a worse matchup for MU than some of the other 7 seeds or 6 seeds.

Then throw in Kolek's injury and MU's chances of advancing took a hit.

All reasons why I hate to give the March crapshoot so much weight in evaluating a team or conference.

And this is why, when looking back at the season, I'm happy we won the conference title and the tournament title.  Sure, some of those games (home to X, @ CU, UConn @ MSG) could have really gone either way too, but the whole season doesn't come down to one off night or one coin flip game or weird turnover or hot shooting night from an opponent.  March is a crapshoot.  There's only so much you can take away from one loss.