2023 Portal Transfers

[muwarrior69]

#FakeNews #Lies

By rule, no one can use NIL deals to recruit a player

What rule? If you can pay big bucks to retain a player why not to get a player.

[muwarrior69]

Was listing to 97.3 yesterday with Brian Butch and he said that the companies that are locking the kids in to NIL deals are not fulfilling their obligation to pay them. Since there is no governing body, there is no one to enforce the payments to the kids. So basically, the kid goes to X school, starts to do promotions/commercials for said company and then when it comes time to pay, they say, "they are looking into it" Butch said this is happening to almost every major school across the country.

So these "deals" are verbal not written like a contract?

[Viper]

Was listing to 97.3 yesterday with Brian Butch and he said that the companies that are locking the kids in to NIL deals are not fulfilling their obligation to pay them. Since there is no governing body, there is no one to enforce the payments to the kids. So basically, the kid goes to X school, starts to do promotions/commercials for said company and then when it comes time to pay, they say, "they are looking into it" Butch said this is happening to almost every major school across the country.

I won't admit this in public about a BADger, but Butch does a nice job calling games on FS1 & BIG. He was a big time HS recruit from the Appleton area. Not sure if he considered MU, or if MU went aggressively after him.

[Hards Alumni]

So these "deals" are verbal not written like a contract?

Consider that Brian Butch is a walking talking dumb ass, and then reevaluate the credibility of his claims.

These deals are all written down and perfectly legal.  Otherwise, we'd be hearing about it from someone other than Brian Butch.   

[HowardsWorld]

So these "deals" are verbal not written like a contract?

I don't know enough about it to answer that. I'm just stating with Butch said on the radio yesterday. He said that was the major talk at this years final four among the coaches that went down there.

[muwarrior69]

Time for them to unionize

Hmm... so players from the #1 ranked team at the end of the season go on strike for better housing or increased pay now don't play in the NCAA tournament. That is going to fly with their fan base.

[Uncle Rico]

Hmm... so players from the #1 ranked team at the end of the season go on strike for better housing or increased pay now don't play in the NCAA tournament. That is going to fly with their fan base.

Buddy, they're going to be treated and classified as professionals a lot sooner than you think

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Buddy, they're going to be treated and classified as professionals a lot sooner than you think

They won't be.  This is the one thing the NCAA will win on

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Was listing to 97.3 yesterday with Brian Butch and he said that the companies that are locking the kids in to NIL deals are not fulfilling their obligation to pay them. Since there is no governing body, there is no one to enforce the payments to the kids. So basically, the kid goes to X school, starts to do promotions/commercials for said company and then when it comes time to pay, they say, "they are looking into it" Butch said this is happening to almost every major school across the country.

I like Butch as an announcer, but he's talking out his a$$ here

[The Sultan]

I like Butch as an announcer, but he's talking out his a$$ here

Yeah, they don't need a "governing body" to oversee NIL payments to players.  There is a thing called "contract law" that covers that.

[Pakuni]

Ryan Nembhard to Gonzaga

.https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1649414395892494340?s=20

[Herman Cain]

Ryan Nembhard to Gonzaga

.https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1649414395892494340?s=20

I think Creighton got the better end of the trade with Ashworth coming in

[MUBurrow]

Yeah, they don't need a "governing body" to oversee NIL payments to players.  There is a thing called "contract law" that covers that.

Yep.  The NCAA couldn't regulate NIL sensibly when its policy was a 100% prohibition, let alone regulating it now. 

Question - does the prohibition against signing with an agent hurt kids in getting legal representation as they sign NIL deals?  Generally I think an agency would handle negotiations and contract review by legal (or at least hire outside counsel for that).  Players can't sign agents, but I assume they can still retain legal counsel to represent them for these?  Still though, a lot of unsavory actors out there if players are completely on their own to seek representation for NIL deals.

[The Lens]

I like Butch as an announcer, but he's talking out his a$$ here

He may be exaggerating but there are documented cases.  Florida is now on their 2nd NIL Collective bc of how the first one failed a big football recruit. 

Contract law of course can help alleviate these issues, hopefully parents and the recruit are getting signed docs.  If I were a parent of a #mubb recruit, I wouldn't trust Cody Hatt, I would want it in writing from Mike Vitucci.

[WhiteTrash]

They won't be.  This is the one thing the NCAA will win on

I don't think so. The precedent for professional athletes being able to unionize is decades old. JMO.

[The Sultan]

I don't think so. The precedent for professional athletes being able to unionize is decades old. JMO.

But professional athletes have always been considered employees.  Student-athletes have not.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

He may be exaggerating but there are documented cases.  Florida is now on their 2nd NIL Collective bc of how the first one failed a big football recruit. 

Contract law of course can help alleviate these issues, hopefully parents and the recruit are getting signed docs.  If I were a parent of a #mubb recruit, I wouldn't trust Cody Hatt, I would want it in writing from Mike Vitucci.

I didn't hear what Butch said so I'm just going based on what Howardsworld described but what happened at Florida is very different from what Butch supposedly said. Situations like the Florida collective are happening though not at every major college.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I don't think so. The precedent for professional athletes being able to unionize is decades old. JMO.

Professional athletes and student athletes are very different beasts with very different needs. I don't see it ever happening. It's a lose lose for student athletes and universities.

[The Equalizer]

Damion Collins of Kentucky in the portal--former five-star/#16 rank out of HS.

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article273881300.html

[GoldenEagles03]

Damion Collins of Kentucky in the portal--former five-star/#16 rank out of HS.

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article273881300.html

Yes please

[Hards Alumni]

Yes please

ehhhh

[BCHoopster]

Yes please

Only if Omax leaves, I would assume the kid wants to play, at least get a chance to start then.

[MuggsyB]

Nembhard to Gonzaga.  Wow.

[wadesworld]

I'd take CJ Fredrick if he shoots it like he did while he was at Iowa.

[MuggsyB]

I'd take CJ Fredrick if he shoots it like he did while he was at Iowa.

That would be an interesting pick-up.