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DoctorV

Quote from: CountryRoads on February 28, 2023, 09:34:14 PM
Myles Powell being handed the award before the season started over Howard was a travesty. Powell didn't deserve the award. Kolek has the momentum though so I think he'll win it this year.

Yep, this was robbery.

DoctorV

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Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 28, 2023, 10:37:08 PM
I don't see any way that Kolek doesn't win BEPOY at this point. There just isn't a good argument to dispute it.


All American teams are tough to get on but I think he's earned a spot at least on the 3rd team. I think 2nd team is possible.

100%
It's surreal that like 1 month ago we woulda said he's on the 1st team but on the back end, and maybe not a sure thing.

Now, it just seems like no one else can win the award.
Rightfully so.
42 points, 24 assists in the last two games!

F*CK 'EM, C*OWN 'EM

JWags85

Quote from: jfp61 on February 28, 2023, 09:13:18 PM
Seems like BEPOTY. Probably 2nd or 3rd team all American.

For me, the top three guards are Sasser, Pickett, and McGhee.

After that its probably Kolek.

Though, Nowell and Wade Taylor are close.

Sasses, sure.

But Pickett puts up a bunch of empty stats on a mediocre team.  He leads in everything cause the rest of Penn St stinks. 

And McGhee?  GTFO with him over Kolek.  He hasn't played a team with a NET under 120 in literally 3 months.  The 2 good teams they played, Bama and NW, he scored 8 points, and a horribly inefficient 23 on 19 shots, respectively.   Putting a guy averaging 22 points against Mickey Mouse low major competition, with no other meaningful stats, on an AA team over a guy who just averaged 16/5/9 (53% from 3!) over his last 8 to close out a conference title, including wins over 3 top 20 teams, would be malpractice.

Might as well make Antoine Davis first team AA

CountryRoads

Quote from: JWags85 on February 28, 2023, 11:02:09 PM
Sasses, sure.

But Pickett puts up a bunch of empty stats on a mediocre team.  He leads in everything cause the rest of Penn St stinks. 

And McGhee?  GTFO with him over Kolek.  He hasn't played a team with a NET under 120 in literally 3 months.  The 2 good teams they played, Bama and NW, he scored 8 points, and a horribly inefficient 23 on 19 shots, respectively.   Putting a guy averaging 22 points against Mickey Mouse low major competition, with no other meaningful stats, on an AA team over a guy who just averaged 16/5/9 (53% from 3!) over his last 8 to close out a conference title, including wins over 3 top 20 teams, would be malpractice.

Might as well make Antoine Davis first team AA

Thanks for this. I typed up something similar regarding Pickett and McGhee but couldn't get the wording right. Neither belongs above Kolek, imo. He's a freakin stud.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: JWags85 on February 28, 2023, 11:02:09 PM
Sasses, sure.

But Pickett puts up a bunch of empty stats on a mediocre team.  He leads in everything cause the rest of Penn St stinks. 

And McGhee?  GTFO with him over Kolek.  He hasn't played a team with a NET under 120 in literally 3 months.  The 2 good teams they played, Bama and NW, he scored 8 points, and a horribly inefficient 23 on 19 shots, respectively.   Putting a guy averaging 22 points against Mickey Mouse low major competition, with no other meaningful stats, on an AA team over a guy who just averaged 16/5/9 (53% from 3!) over his last 8 to close out a conference title, including wins over 3 top 20 teams, would be malpractice.

Might as well make Antoine Davis first team AA

Pickett puts up a lot more than empty stats. Not saying Id ever trade Kolek for him. But you are vastly under selling him. Hes having an incredible year.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 28, 2023, 07:17:26 PM
First off he's easily BEPOY.  I'm wondering if he's 2nd or 3rd team A-A?

Did we need another thread on this?

1) I started a thread a week or so ago that Kolek was a lock for POY if MU won the BE.

2) I predicted 5 weeks ago that TK would be an All-American.

3) Scoop no longer hands out awards for those who start the most redundant threads

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Jockey on February 28, 2023, 11:22:03 PM
Did we need another thread on this?

1) I started a thread a week or so ago that Kolek was a lock for POY if MU won the BE.

2) I predicted 5 weeks ago that TK would be an All-American.

3) Scoop no longer hands out awards for those who start the most redundant threads

Ha! Very true.

lawdog77


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muwarrior69

#34
Quote from: 🏀 on March 01, 2023, 05:41:38 AM
KenPom says Sanogo.

It might not be a bad thing if its Sonogo or Kalkbrenner, just another reason for Ty to get pissed enough to F*ck'em and motivate the whole team.

brewcity77

Quote from: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on February 28, 2023, 09:29:48 PM
Last time we won conference we had the Big East POY in Jae Crowder.  Now we are outright champs and Kolek surely will win.  If he doesn't it is a travesty.

We finished second the year Jae won BEPOY. The year we shared was when Vander led the team.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 01, 2023, 06:19:25 AM
We finished second the year Jae won BEPOY. The year we shared was when Vander led the team.

Didn't every metric say the guy from West Virginia should've won it?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

MuggsyB

Quote from: Jockey on February 28, 2023, 11:22:03 PM
Did we need another thread on this?

1) I started a thread a week or so ago that Kolek was a lock for POY if MU won the BE.

2) I predicted 5 weeks ago that TK would be an All-American.

3) Scoop no longer hands out awards for those who start the most redundant threads

I can deal with starting too many threads. 

Dr. Blackheart

Kolek in conference this season:  125 Orating, 57% efg, 40% assist rate and 16% turnover rate.

Another Final 4 Sophomore MU PG:  117 Orating, 51% efg, 28 assist rate and 19% turnover rate. To note, the three point line was closer.

Jockey


MuggsyB

Quote from: Jockey on March 01, 2023, 08:39:35 AM
You have to.

Okay, well next time I will consult you Jockey and you can tell me if you started the topic before.  I forget things. 

Elonsmusk

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 01, 2023, 08:31:10 AM
Kolek in conference this season:  125 Orating, 57% efg, 40% assist rate and 16% turnover rate.

Another Final 4 Sophomore MU PG:  117 Orating, 51% efg, 28 assist rate and 19% turnover rate. To note, the three point line was closer.

Additionally, Kolek doesn't have an NBA Hall of Fame, Top 5 NBA pick as his sidekick either.  There was a lot of Kolek doubt here on Scoop by many last year and the onset of this season.   I've been a big fan of his from Day 1, but he's massively exceeded my expectations.

Tyler's growing confidence is HUGE for this team, and coming at the perfect time heading into March.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Jockey on February 28, 2023, 11:22:03 PM
Did we need another thread on this?

1) I started a thread a week or so ago that Kolek was a lock for POY if MU won the BE.

2) I predicted 5 weeks ago that TK would be an All-American.

3) Scoop no longer hands out awards for those who start the most redundant threads

We're celebrating, Jockey - if we get a little redundant it's OK.

tower912

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 01, 2023, 08:59:42 AM
Okay, well next time I will consult you Jockey and you can tell me if you started the topic before.  I forget things.

Check with Goose to make sure the timing of your thread is appropriate.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

lawdog77

Quote from: tower912 on March 01, 2023, 09:08:13 AM
Check with Goose to make sure the timing of your thread is appropriate.
Or if you have enough posts in Hangin' at the Al

MuggsyB

Maybe I'll start another 300 threads on TyKo and try to stretch my vocabulary skills.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 01, 2023, 09:04:10 AM
Additionally, Kolek doesn't have an NBA Hall of Fame, Top 5 NBA pick as his sidekick either.  There was a lot of Kolek doubt here on Scoop by many last year and the onset of this season.   I've been a big fan of his from Day 1, but he's massively exceeded my expectations.

Tyler's growing confidence is HUGE for this team, and coming at the perfect time heading into March.


Elon,

Do you think he has NBA potential with another few years of seasoning? 

Goose

Elon

Kolek has exceeded anything you could ask for. It will go down as a one of the all-time great MU individual seasons, IMO.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 01, 2023, 09:28:50 AM

Elon,

Do you think he has NBA potential with another few years of seasoning?

Not Elon, but I do think Kolek has NBA potential. He's missing the elite athleticism but assuming continued improvement next season, there should be room for him to at least get cup of coffee in the Association.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Elonsmusk

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 01, 2023, 09:28:50 AM

Elon,

Do you think he has NBA potential with another few years of seasoning?

Yes. I believe he's get drafted if he declared after this season. But he plans to stay - at least as if a podcast he did 6 weeks ago.  After next season?  I'd say he's a lock to get drafted assuming he sustains the level we've seen the past month.

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