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brewcity77

For the first time since 2019, Marquette will be in the Top-16 Reveal when the Selection Committee gives us a sneak preview tomorrow. Will they be as high as the Bracket Matrix consensus, or is there reason to think they could be on a different line than most expect? We preview the reveal line-by-line and have a new S-Curve and Bracket as well.

https://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2023/02/top-16-reveal-preview.html

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1990Warrior

If we win the BE tournament, how high should we be?  In other words,  what is our limit?


wisblue

#3
Can you explain what the RAP score is? Is it something calculated using the five  metrics that appear on the NCAA NET Team Sheets? Like a weighting of the 2 Results based metrics and the 3 Predictive metrics?

brewcity77

Quote from: 1990Warrior on February 18, 2023, 05:15:23 AM
If we win the BE tournament, how high should we be?  In other words,  what is our limit?

If we win out until MSG, we likely end up as a 3. Win convincingly and get some luck ahead of us and sneaking onto tht 2 isn't impossible.

rocket surgeon

all of the teams in the top 16 have "achilles heals"


if our guys could all come out together and gel for a nice stretch at the right time...holy hell this could get really really fun

    we've been blessed with a team and a coach who've seemed to have one or two guys bubble to the top giving us one of the most exciting seasons in quite some time.  6 different players with the sotg-have 3-4 of them put together a nasty string of march together, we will be the talk of the NCAA baby.  stay healthy my friends
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

NCMUFan

It seems that where is as important as seed.
Having the NCAA quarter finals in Minneapolis in 2003 with a huge fan base in the crowd made a humungous difference. 
Put us in deep south, or far west and have to hope the boys don't get paired with teams from that area.

mu_eyeballs

Why would a top 4 be lined up with the overall #1?  Does not bother me, but the #1 might not love it.

brewcity77

Quote from: mu_eyeballs on February 18, 2023, 07:18:06 AM
Why would a top 4 be lined up with the overall #1?  Does not bother me, but the #1 might not love it.

When it comes to bracketing rules, the top 1 and top 2 cannot be bracketed together. That's not the case further down. This will be interesting to watch, however. Whether the Selection Committee seems to favor balancing the seed strength or favorable geography will influence my future articles.

wisblue

Quote from: mu_eyeballs on February 18, 2023, 07:18:06 AM
Why would a top 4 be lined up with the overall #1?  Does not bother me, but the #1 might not love it.

I think a lot of that placement has to do with the challenge of separating teams from the same conference so they don't meet until later in the tournament.

For example, this seed list has 5 Big 12 teams in the top 16. The 4 highest of those 5 have to be placed in different regions, and that requires placement of teams that  are a little different than what you'd get if the S curve was followed strictly.

CountryRoads

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 18, 2023, 07:29:28 AM
When it comes to bracketing rules, the top 1 and top 2 cannot be bracketed together. That's not the case further down. This will be interesting to watch, however. Whether the Selection Committee seems to favor balancing the seed strength or favorable geography will influence my future articles.

I can't remember but do they also give the locations with this reveal?

Dr. Blackheart

#11
The Big East is the 3rd best conference in Pomeroy but 7 conferences rated above the leader. And then the sixth place BE team is higher seeded than the leader? Something is off with the numbers this year and I think it is the conference component (recency).

wisblue

Quote from: CountryRoads on February 18, 2023, 07:47:01 AM
I can't remember but do they also give the locations with this reveal?

I think only the regionals but not the first and second round pods.

CountryRoads

#13
Quote from: wisblue on February 18, 2023, 08:30:25 AM
I think only the regionals but not the first and second round pods.

Thanks, makes sense. Kansas City against Kansas wouldn't be fun so that'd be my last pick. Would for sure go to the Louisville region if they made it so that's my top pick. Vegas and NYC are awesome cities to play in so those would be cool also. Obviously not something to worry about at this moment though.

MU90620

I understand not factoring conference standing into NCAA seedlings and selections when conferences play an unbalanced schedule. But in conferences with a true round robin, it doesn't make sense not to consider it when comparing teams.

For example, Marquette and UConn have the exact same schedule for 2/3 of their season and one team is 4 games better than the other. It seems unreasonable not to factor that in.

And yes, I get that they don't and I'm not making an argument that they do factor it in and just don't tell people. I'm merely saying that in my opinion, they should.

real chili 83

Brew, selfishly, any chance we get Des Moines?

Easy drive.

brewcity77

Quote from: real chili 83 on February 18, 2023, 08:39:50 AM
Brew, selfishly, any chance we get Des Moines?

Easy drive.

I think it's unlikely. Des Moines is first choice for Kansas and first or second choice for most Big 12 schools & Houston. Things would have to fall just right. I think Columbus is looking like the closest realistic location. That will come down to us being ahead of Xavier most likely.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 18, 2023, 08:51:05 AM
I think it's unlikely. Des Moines is first choice for Kansas and first or second choice for most Big 12 schools & Houston. Things would have to fall just right. I think Columbus is looking like the closest realistic location. That will come down to us being ahead of Xavier most likely.

I agree, Columbus is most likely.  Des Moines would require being ahead of a few Big 12 teams.

We'll know a bit more after the initial reveal.

Mu8891


wisblue

Quote from: Mu8891 on February 18, 2023, 10:15:06 AM
Did I miss it ?
What TIME is the reveal ?

It's on a show on CBS that starts at 11:30 AM CST.

wisblue

#20
The ESPN Gameday crew predicts MU as a 3 seed and number 10 on the seed list.

They placed MU in the Midwest Region (Louisville) with Kansas as the 1 seed (2 overall), Texas as the 2 seed (7 overall) and Miami as the 4 seed (15 overall).

If I understand them correctly, this regional grouping would violate the NCAA seeding principles by placing Texas and Kansas in the same region.

Their 1 through 16 are Alabama, Kansas, Purdue, Houston, UCLA, Tennessee, Texas, Baylor, Arizona, Marquette, Virginia, UConn, Creighton, Gonzaga, Miami, Kansas State.

Newsdreams

Quote from: wisblue on February 18, 2023, 10:19:30 AM
The ESPN Gameday crew predicts MU as a 3 seed and number 10 on the seed list.
But ESPN hates us & BE
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

fjm

Quote from: wisblue on February 18, 2023, 10:19:30 AM
The ESPN Gameday crew predicts MU as a 3 seed and number 10 on the seed list.

They placed MU in the Midwest Region (Louisville) with Kansas as the 1 seed (2 overall), Texas as the 2 seed (7 overall) and Miami as the 4 seed (15 overall).

If I understand them correctly, this regional grouping would violate the NCAA seeding principles by placing Texas and Kansas in the same region.

Their 1 through 16 are Alabama, Kansas, Purdue, Houston, UCLA, Tennessee, Texas, Baylor, Arizona, Marquette, Virginia, UConn, Creighton, Gonzaga, Miami, Kansas State.

Wow creighton instead of Xavier?

The BEast really has the opportunity to do some damage in the tourney this year.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Newsdreams on February 18, 2023, 10:27:01 AM
But ESPN hates us & BE

Who hates Marquette more?  ESPN, Fox or CBS?  I know none of them like Marquette but who is the biggest hater?
Guster is for Lovers

Newsdreams

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 18, 2023, 10:38:05 AM
Who hates Marquette more?  ESPN, Fox or CBS?  I know none of them like Marquette but who is the biggest hater?
I go ESPN the 4 letter network plus they're Disney woke
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

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