Xavier 02/15/2023

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Just more minutes for their better players.

Lol. KyKy Tandy finished with 24 minutes. He averaged 2.3 minutes per game in the 9 Big East games he managed to get into before tonight.

[Shark]

Lol. KyKy Tandy finished with 24 minutes. He averaged 2.3 minutes per game in the 9 Big East games he managed to get into before tonight.

That was also 90% due to Kunkel fouling out/foul trouble

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

That was also 90% due to Kunkel fouling out/foul trouble

No. Kunkel played 28 minutes. So at very most foul trouble could have accounted for 50% of Tandy's minutes and it wasn't that much because Kunkel wasn't going to play 40 minutes.

Even if it was 90%, it doesn't matter. Claude would have a been much better replacement for Kunkel than Tandy was. I'm not one who believes you need a deep bench to win a college basketball game, but losing your 6th man when you only have a 6 man rotation due to another injury is a big deal.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

No. Kunkel played 28 minutes. So at very most foul trouble could have accounted for 50% of Tandy's minutes and it wasn't that much because Kunkel wasn't going to play 40 minutes.

Even if it was 90%, it doesn't matter. Claude would have a been much better replacement for Kunkel than Tandy was. I'm not one who believes you need a deep bench to win a college basketball game, but losing your 6th man when you only have a 6 man rotation due to another injury is a big deal.

Eh, X fans can cry me a River about how they would have won a Big East title if they had a competent bench. Not much of an argument in the grand scheme things.

Boum played, Nunge played and the acrun they hired has already messed up a few division one guys.

[PGsHeroes32]

That was also 90% due to Kunkel fouling out/foul trouble

Kunkel fouling out is key reason why missing a guy like Claude having depth matters though.

You cant expect to play basketball games and have all 5 starters play the whole game and never have foul trouble. It could happen......but not likely.

Heck, X is fortunate that the game for both teams was called very loose for most of it.

[wadesworld]

Respectfully disagree, wades.

You can disrupt the inbounder's vision, you can distract him, you can fluster him. Anything so a guy isn't just standing there, able to lock in on his target, stride forward and throw the exact pass he wanted. As for being able to run the baseline ... it's very difficult to throw a perfect 65-70 foot pass while running.

Well, I guess it was a good thing the Xavier inbounder decided to run the baseline on his own, step on the line (uncalled), and missed his target by about 15 feet (Nunge was essentially posting up Oso on the Big East logo for the pass, and caught it on the sideline above the 3 point line).

[MUfan12]

Here's what I'm wondering about the rule... if indeed the rule is that you can step on, but not over, does that mean the entire foot has to be over the line? Because his toes were pretty clearly in bounds.

[GoldenEagles03]

Here's what I'm wondering about the rule... if indeed the rule is that you can step on, but not over, does that mean the entire foot has to be over the line? Because his toes were pretty clearly in bounds.

Even if just your toes touch the line it is a violation.

[panda]

Regarding last nights situation, I agree with Shaka not putting anyone on the inbounder. With 1.6 seconds left, it's a catch and shoot situation. Any dribble and the clock expires.

Just swarm the ball on the catch with that little time left.

Anything above two seconds when a dribble comes into play, it's malpractice not to have someone on the inbounder.

[DoctorV]

Kunkel fouling out is key reason why missing a guy like Claude having depth matters though.

You cant expect to play basketball games and have all 5 starters play the whole game and never have foul trouble. It could happen......but not likely.

Heck, X is fortunate that the game for both teams was called very loose for most of it.

Creighton expects that.

Marquette must show them that it's not realistic!

[Strokin 3s]

Respectfully disagree, wades.

You can disrupt the inbounder's vision, you can distract him, you can fluster him. Anything so a guy isn't just standing there, able to lock in on his target, stride forward and throw the exact pass he wanted. As for being able to run the baseline ... it's very difficult to throw a perfect 65-70 foot pass while running.

With the inbounder able to run the baseline in that situation there is no way you should put a guy on him.  Very easy for a player to start one way, juke back the other and be "wide open" to throw a standing pass, the same as if no one was there to begin with.

[panda]

With the inbounder able to run the baseline in that situation there is no way you should put a guy on him.  Very easy for a player to start one way, juke back the other and be "wide open" to throw a standing pass, the same as if no one was there to begin with.

Not rocket science - you know a right hander will almost certainly run to his right so to not throw across his body. It's not difficult to guard.

[brewcity77]

Not to go full Providence, but it certainly doesn't hurt that we got Creighton without Kalkbrenner, Providence without Bynum, and Xavier without Freemantle or Claude at home this year.

[JakeBarnes]

Not to go full Providence, but it certainly doesn't hurt that we got Creighton without Kalkbrenner, Providence without Bynum, and Xavier without Freemantle or Claude at home this year.

Does this mean we are going to start getting lots of FT attempts now too?

[jfp61]

Not to go full Providence, but it certainly doesn't hurt that we got Creighton without Kalkbrenner, Providence without Bynum, and Xavier without Freemantle or Claude at home this year.

For sure. The only school that should have a grip over this though is Creighton though. In my eyes, they are the only other team really playing at Marquettes level in BE play.

[Badgerhater]

With the inbounder able to run the baseline in that situation there is no way you should put a guy on him.  Very easy for a player to start one way, juke back the other and be "wide open" to throw a standing pass, the same as if no one was there to begin with.

Listened to this one on the radio:  Homer wanted a guy on the inbounder.  Tony Smith said no—it was more important keep the pass from near the arc or inside of it.

[jfp61]

Not to go full Providence, but it certainly doesn't hurt that we got Creighton without Kalkbrenner, Providence without Bynum, and Xavier without Freemantle or Claude at home this year.

we're also 2-5 in 2 possession games so, not really a providence.

[Tha Hound]

Not to go full Providence, but it certainly doesn't hurt that we got Creighton without Kalkbrenner, Providence without Bynum, and Xavier without Freemantle or Claude at home this year.

Certainly doesnt help that we got absolutely jobbed by refs @Providence

[brewcity77]

we're also 2-5 in 2 possession games so, not really a providence.

More pointing out how last year they got fortunate with who they faced and when, though they had the added benefit of avoiding some difficult games.

[CAGASS24]

Is this not over the line?  Is it the wood color or one of the stripes?

[cheebs09]

Is this not over the line?  Is it the wood color or one of the stripes?

Ageed. This isn't 'nam. There are rules.

It's a league game.

[StillAWarrior]

Is this not over the line?  Is it the wood color or one of the stripes?

Honestly, it's hard for me to tell from that picture.

I think the question is if the ball was in play, what would be OOB? I suspect that as soon as they touch that first navy line, they are OOB. I believe , then, that as long as they are not over that blue line (and into the wood) they are not over the line. I honestly cannot tell from that picture if his toe is completely over the blue line and touching the wood.

[romey]

By the way...did anybody see Hunter step over the line on that final inbounds pass? Clear as day.

Yep, clear as day

[Pakuni]

Is this not over the line?  Is it the wood color or one of the stripes?

If I understand the rule correctly, he can step on the line, but not beyond it. So, as long as his toe is on the blue, but not the wood color, he's good.

[IrwinFletcher]

Not to go full Providence, but it certainly doesn't hurt that we got Creighton without Kalkbrenner, Providence without Bynum, and Xavier without Freemantle or Claude at home this year.

I won't go through it all, but Bynum missed numerous conference games as has Freemantle.  So other teams will get the benefit as well.  Kalkbrenner only missed 1 conference game it looks like.

Marquette has had the misfortune of not having Zach Wrightsill all season and we have been able to work around that.  Sean Jones has missed some games as well.