Perspective

[ATWizJr]

Tower

UConn beats almost every team in the country last night. I noted in another post, it was small victory not losing by 30+ points. UConn was that good last night.

don't you think it's likely that last nights result will be repeated in Omaha?

[GoldenEagles03]

don't you think it's likely that last nights result will be repeated in Omaha?

No.  Creighton doesn't shoot it well and they only have 5 players.  They get 0 from their bench on a nightly basis.

[Shooter McGavin]

don't you think it's likely that last nights result will be repeated in Omaha?

I think that depends on the next couple of games and if the team starts to get some of their offensive efficiency back.  If they start to look crisp on offense again I think we battle Creighton to the end and could pull out a win.

I look forward to Saturday's game to see if even an hint of an offensive turnaround starts to occur.

[Goose]

Wiz,

A lot can happen between now and Omaha. That said, I think UConn is a tough out for MU, even more than Creighton. I felt for the last few weeks that Creighton was a better opportunity to get a big road over UConn. Now, if they do not clean things up it will be tough to win there.

MU hired a big time coach to figure this stuff out. I noted things from last night that looked troublesome to me and maybe not to the coaching staff. I would have to think that Shaka has a list of items he can blast the team on for last night and hopefully he does.

Sitting here today, I think they clean things up and beat X and Creighton. Again, that is sitting here today and hopefully I feel the same was having pregame drinks next Wednesday night.

[rgoode57]

It was inevitable that MU would fall back to earth at some point, and UConn is a very, very good team that played a near perfect game.  My concern was not that UConn shot the ball so well but that most of the 3's they hit were wide open shots. And, under the basket, they simply manhandled our guys. It happens, but our guys did not come prepared to play last night while UConn was amped and ready to go from the opening tap.

UConn, X, and Creighton are the three best teams in the conference with MU and Providence both behind those three. Yes, any of the five can beat any of the others on a given night, but, truth is, either X or Creighton is likely to win the conference in regular season. UConn got off to a slow conference start and cannot win the regular season now but can certainly win the BE tournament. I have to acknowledge that we are not going to win the regular season and probably not the tournament either.

But, MU can still realistically finish up with a 15-5 BE record, which is an astounding achievement for this team in Shaka's second year. These guys have given us a lot of excitement and enjoyment this year, and I am not going to let last night's game ruin that. Sure, they could still win out, but it's not likely. They are a team with some very obvious weaknesses, and we have all known that for a while now. But, no matter what happens in the remaining games, they have been a hell of a lot of fun to watch, have improved by leaps and bounds over last year, and have given all of us reason to be very optimistic about MU's b'ball future.

Their challenge now is to bounce back on Saturday against GT. Forget X and Creighton next week - just go beat the hell out of GT.  If they do that, and I think they will, next week will get a lot easier.

[SaveOD238]

I have to acknowledge that we are not going to win the regular season and probably not the tournament either.

Beat Xavier next week and it will be hard to NOT win at least a share of the conference title.

[muwarrior69]

Snoop

Great post. My level of concern is about a 2 and believe they right the ship moving forward. I talked to several non MU fans yesterday and all of them expected UConn to win. Only negative is that several friends watched and took pleasure in the poor performance.


It is funny but I was not overly excited about the game all day yesterday. I thought there was a good chance we would see the result that we saw. Positive note, the game was early and I was done being angry/disappointed at a reasonable hour.

Good to know that you can stay friends despite basketball.

[muwarrior69]

It was inevitable that MU would fall back to earth at some point, and UConn is a very, very good team that played a near perfect game.  My concern was not that UConn shot the ball so well but that most of the 3's they hit were wide open shots. And, under the basket, they simply manhandled our guys. It happens, but our guys did not come prepared to play last night while UConn was amped and ready to go from the opening tap.

UConn, X, and Creighton are the three best teams in the conference with MU and Providence both behind those three. Yes, any of the five can beat any of the others on a given night, but, truth is, either X or Creighton is likely to win the conference in regular season. UConn got off to a slow conference start and cannot win the regular season now but can certainly win the BE tournament. I have to acknowledge that we are not going to win the regular season and probably not the tournament either.

But, MU can still realistically finish up with a 15-5 BE record, which is an astounding achievement for this team in Shaka's second year. These guys have given us a lot of excitement and enjoyment this year, and I am not going to let last night's game ruin that. Sure, they could still win out, but it's not likely. They are a team with some very obvious weaknesses, and we have all known that for a while now. But, no matter what happens in the remaining games, they have been a hell of a lot of fun to watch, have improved by leaps and bounds over last year, and have given all of us reason to be very optimistic about MU's b'ball future.

Their challenge now is to bounce back on Saturday against GT. Forget X and Creighton next week - just go beat the hell out of GT.  If they do that, and I think they will, next week will get a lot easier.

If we beat X next Wednesday and lose to the Blue Jays we split our games with the top 3 teams and UCONN. So why is MU behind them? The silver lining in last nights game is that our bench scored 32 of our 72 points.

[Goose]

rgoode

By no means do I believe MU came back to Earth last night. They have played like a top ten team for much of the season and lost to a better, hotter team last night. MU's basketball future started the day Shaka was hired. It is now time to win.

[rgoode57]

Please don't misunderstand. I am not giving up on them by any means. But, I am trying to be realistic. If they go 15-5 in conference games, it is a remarkable feat. And, I will be cheering for them every minute of every game.  But, you know as well as I do how hard it will be to win in Omaha. And X does not seem to be missing Freemeantle even a little - Nunge just has become more dominant.  If they win both of those games, I will be as happy as anyone.

And, I agree that Shaka coming to MU was perhaps the second biggest day in MU basketball history - second only to the day Al arrived.

[Uncle Rico]

Marquette came all the way back down to earth by dropping a spot in KenPom and a spot in Net.

I'd swear to Christ almighty if I wasn't a Christian

[jfp61]

It was inevitable that MU would fall back to earth at some point, and UConn is a very, very good team that played a near perfect game.  My concern was not that UConn shot the ball so well but that most of the 3's they hit were wide open shots. And, under the basket, they simply manhandled our guys. It happens, but our guys did not come prepared to play last night while UConn was amped and ready to go from the opening tap.

UConn, X, and Creighton are the three best teams in the conference with MU and Providence both behind those three. Yes, any of the five can beat any of the others on a given night, but, truth is, either X or Creighton is likely to win the conference in regular season. UConn got off to a slow conference start and cannot win the regular season now but can certainly win the BE tournament. I have to acknowledge that we are not going to win the regular season and probably not the tournament either.

But, MU can still realistically finish up with a 15-5 BE record, which is an astounding achievement for this team in Shaka's second year. These guys have given us a lot of excitement and enjoyment this year, and I am not going to let last night's game ruin that. Sure, they could still win out, but it's not likely. They are a team with some very obvious weaknesses, and we have all known that for a while now. But, no matter what happens in the remaining games, they have been a hell of a lot of fun to watch, have improved by leaps and bounds over last year, and have given all of us reason to be very optimistic about MU's b'ball future.

Their challenge now is to bounce back on Saturday against GT. Forget X and Creighton next week - just go beat the hell out of GT.  If they do that, and I think they will, next week will get a lot easier.

I don't really disagree with most of this. But if you are gonna make this analytics based "who they actualy are" team differentiation then I would drop Xavier from that top group.

I would tier them like this.
1. Uconn and Creighton
2. Xavier and Marquette
3. Providence
4. Nova and Hall
5. Johns
6. Butler, Depaul, and GT

Xavier is 9th in defense. 4th overall in conference play efficiency. And they kinda lucked out in both the Creighton and MU home games.

[Uncle Rico]

I don't really disagree with most of this. But if you are gonna make this analytics based "who they actualy are" team differentiation then I would drop Xavier from that top group.

I would tier them like this.
1. Uconn and Creighton
2. Xavier and Marquette
3. Providence
4. Nova and Hall
5. Johns
6. Butler, Depaul, and GT

Xavier is 9th in defense. 4th overall in conference play efficiency. And they kinda lucked out in both the Creighton and MU home games.

I think UConn is tier one with Creighton tier 2.  Analytics say X is closer to PU, though they're elite offense seperates them enough.  I'd put those 4 together because PU is more balanced than X and Quette.  I'd drop St. John's into a bottom 4.  They're terrible

[NickelDimer]

Schedule L. Onward.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

As Patrick Ewing said, it's not about how many times you get knocked down, it's about how many times you get back up. Apparently that's still true even if you lose 29 straight conference games.

That was Chumbawamba.

[dgies9156]

JUST WIN BABY!!!!!!

Time to kick some Hoya Ass!

[GoldenEagles03]

Pretty cool perspective here from who I believe is Stevie Mitchell's mother on Instagram. Shared by a few players and coaches.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoZ5hSQgYkn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

The caption goes along PERFECTLY with this thread...perspective. So for anyone that doesn't believe culture is real or that a February fade is coming.

We are good!! The culture that has been built at MUBB is truly Inspiring!! It's easy to Love when things are good, but true togetherness will withstand the test of the game🙏🏾💙💛
#keepgoing #keepbuilding
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Advice I would give to a Mom who is navigating the recruiting process, is to look at how a team responds when things just didn't go their way!

College sports are building the leaders of tomorrow and who do you want influencing your child during the prime of their young life?

The coaches, the coach's families, the athlete's families, the administration, the student life, and most importantly the players!

You are the company you keep!

[CTWarrior]

My concern is this.  Our offensive success this season has been predicated on cuts and ball movement inside the 3 point circle.  Our last three opponents have decided to limit that by not doubling and packing it in and daring the penetrator to score with a defender between him and the basket or daring us to make 3s.  If we don't make them, we are going have trouble, especially if our guys who can get to the basket (O-Max) can't finish.  I get the feeling the Georgetown is going to be a dogfight until the end.

I am interested in how we will counteract it.

I think we are playing better defense for the same reason we are playing worse offense.  We have scouted our opponents and are taking away what they like to do.  Against UConn, we made them take threes (they made them) and when we did have good defensive possessions they just killed us on the boards anyway.

[Scoop Snoop]

Pretty cool perspective here from who I believe is Stevie Mitchell's mother on Instagram. Shared by a few players and coaches.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoZ5hSQgYkn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

The caption goes along PERFECTLY with this thread...perspective. So for anyone that doesn't believe culture is real or that a February fade is coming.

We are good!! The culture that has been built at MUBB is truly Inspiring!! It's easy to Love when things are good, but true togetherness will withstand the test of the game🙏🏾💙💛
#keepgoing #keepbuilding
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Advice I would give to a Mom who is navigating the recruiting process, is to look at how a team responds when things just didn't go their way!

College sports are building the leaders of tomorrow and who do you want influencing your child during the prime of their young life?

The coaches, the coach's families, the athlete's families, the administration, the student life, and most importantly the players!

You are the company you keep!

Beautiful!

[mileskishnish72]

don't you think it's likely that last nights result will be repeated in Omaha?

Do you mean this coming Saturday?

[4everwarriors]

Marquette came all the way back down to earth by dropping a spot in KenPom and a spot in Net.

I'd swear to Christ almighty if I wasn't a Christian

No worries, Carty. Someone on this board will do it for ya, hey?

[Dr. Blackheart]

So, left unsaid, Shaka left all of
his second half time outs on the table.  Message:  ass kicking?  Or bad coaching?

[4everwarriors]

Ass kickin', hey?

[Dr. Blackheart]

Ass kickin', hey?

My vote too.

[NCMUFan]

Let's get 20 wins this Saturday.
20 wins don't occur for poor teams.