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Started by DoctorV, February 01, 2023, 10:56:36 PM

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WhiteTrash

Quote from: 94Warrior on February 02, 2023, 12:24:25 AM
For those who think Sean Miller is a cheat - he was just ahead of the curve.  Everything he did is now legal.
Just like Al Capone. He was just selling some booze.

wadesworld

Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2023, 09:37:17 AM
Neither said nor implied by anyone, even in teal.

brew's take is reasonable, and objective. And you know it too, wades.

I mean, I'm pretty sure that's the take Seth Davis had.  At the time he wrote it, Xavier had a 1 game lead on anyone else in the Big East and had a head to head win over Marquette.  So why was that idiotic but brew's take is reasonable, and objective?

wadesworld

Quote from: 94Warrior on February 02, 2023, 12:24:25 AM
For those who think Sean Miller is a cheat - he was just ahead of the curve.  Everything he did is now legal.

That is...not right.  I'm pretty sure Sean Miller was allegedly paying Deandre Ayton $10K/month of his own money.  Very  much not allowed right now.

brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on February 02, 2023, 09:47:33 AM
I mean, I'm pretty sure that's the take Seth Davis had.  At the time he wrote it, Xavier had a 1 game lead on anyone else in the Big East and had a head to head win over Marquette.  So why was that idiotic but brew's take is reasonable, and objective?

Factually incorrect. Xavier was tied with Marquette and Providence when the article posted on January 30th but held the tiebreaker. However if the Big East season ended that date, Xavier, Marquette, and Providence all would've claimed a share of the title with Xavier the 1-seed, Providence the 2, and Marquette the 3.
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94Warrior

Whether it goes from:
1.  Booster to Assistant Coach to Player, or
2.  Booster to Head Coach to Player, or
3.  Booster to Player.


Does the route the money takes really matter in the end?  The player gets the money which was originally offered up by the Booster.  NIL has few if any parameters to it.  Like I said, NIL allows for it above board now.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2023, 07:20:59 AM
Well into last season, a Scooper said something about Shaka passing (or failing; I can't even remember) his first test. He had already passed numerous tests (and maybe failed a couple, too, as he learned his team), so some form of "Shaka finally passed his first test" or "when will Shaka finally pass his first test?" has become one of those Scoopisms we love.

Yes, kinda like "5 years to judge."

Ah yeah, we need that 'season checklist' thread back for this year. Shaka ticked off a lot of those boxes.

wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 02, 2023, 09:54:45 AM
Factually incorrect. Xavier was tied with Marquette and Providence when the article posted on January 30th but held the tiebreaker. However if the Big East season ended that date, Xavier, Marquette, and Providence all would've claimed a share of the title with Xavier the 1-seed, Providence the 2, and Marquette the 3.

Got it.  I was guessing the article wasn't entirely written minutes before it got posted.

I stand corrected.

Idiotic Seth take.

But in reality, I don't think a one game difference moves thing from an idiotic take to a reasonable, objective take.

GoldenEagles03

STRONG words from the former Nova star on Shaka.

VIOLENCE!

DoctorV

Brew-
Great summary, pretty much agree on all points.

The bias in me thinks that Shaka should win even if MU is one game back because of greatly overshooting the expectations that the coaches themselves, or their assistants, set in the preseason.
I think you're right though, Miller in his first season or Ed would probably win with Shaka as a close second.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Shaka win the award in that scenario though.

Who votes? The coaches?

GoldenEagles-
Who's tweet was that?

brewcity77

The tweet is former Villanova great Allan Ray.
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: DoctorV on February 02, 2023, 12:58:39 PM
Brew-
Great summary, pretty much agree on all points.

The bias in me thinks that Shaka should win even if MU is one game back because of greatly overshooting the expectations that the coaches themselves, or their assistants, set in the preseason.
I think you're right though, Miller in his first season or Ed would probably win with Shaka as a close second.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Shaka win the award in that scenario though.

Who votes? The coaches?

GoldenEagles-
Who's tweet was that?

As Brew already pointed out it is Allan Ray who tweeted that about Shaka.

Pretty cool seeing former stars from the competition raving about Shaka and what he is rapidly building.
VIOLENCE!

wadesworld



bilsu

I think Creighton will win the Big East and therefore McDermott will be coach of year.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: bilsu on February 02, 2023, 04:49:10 PM
I think Creighton will win the Big East and therefore McDermott will be coach of year.

Doubt that Creighton will win the BE, but yeah, it's possible. I disagree with your "therefore". They were expected to do well while the BE coaches relegated MU to 9th and nat'l sportswriters did pretty much the same. Please explain why you chose to use the word therefore.
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