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panda

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 30, 2023, 01:48:54 PM
Well, I went with Jop - just so you can all keep debating whether it's debatable that it should definitely be TK.

Kidding - I actually (get ready for this) agree with Goose & others that watching the game - Jop broke DePaul's back and was the stud.

TK's numbers were impressive, and IF he actually got the triple double, I would have made him SOTG.  That's not debatable :)

I think we can all agree that TK and Oso are critical to every win for MU - I think I said that after the first couple games...maybe even earlier.

who wins star of the game

MU82

Quote from: Goose on January 30, 2023, 01:20:34 PM
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#1 Never said I said I was uber ball knowing and many on here are far more knowledgeable than I am on that topic. #2 I picked Joplin 100% because he turned the game in a span of a minute or two.

Had it just been those couple of minutes, even if that's what broke DePaul's spirit (which it did), I wouldn't have voted for Joplin. I'm not one to skip the totality of a performance just because of an important few-minute stint. Joplin played well all game, made 8 effen treys, played good D, contested for rebounds, etc.

Also agree that Kolek was wonderful and that he and Oso could be SOTGs just about every game.

Glad rocky made the right choice!
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Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 30, 2023, 01:48:54 PM
Well, I went with Jop - just so you can all keep debating whether it's debatable that it should definitely be TK.

Kidding - I actually (get ready for this) agree with Goose & others that watching the game - Jop broke DePaul's back and was the stud.

TK's numbers were impressive, and IF he actually got the triple double, I would have made him SOTG.  That's not debatable :)

I think we can all agree that TK and Oso are critical to every win for MU - I think I said that after the first couple games...maybe even earlier.
Joplin was the only correct answer
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Must be nice to sit on high and pass judgement on mere mortal players, deciding who basks in the glory of SOTG and who is forced under their shadow.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Congrats, Jop!


Tyler COLEk

Traveling and missed this one Saturday. Are there any replay links available out there?

Nvm just saw it was FS1. Thought it was our 15th CBSSN of the season.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 30, 2023, 01:48:54 PM
Well, I went with Jop - just so you can all keep debating whether it's debatable that it should definitely be TK.

Kidding - I actually (get ready for this) agree with Goose & others that watching the game - Jop broke DePaul's back and was the stud.

TK's numbers were impressive, and IF he actually got the triple double, I would have made him SOTG.  That's not debatable :)

I think we can all agree that TK and Oso are critical to every win for MU - I think I said that after the first couple games...maybe even earlier.

So the best game by an MU point guard in 20 (30,40, ever?) - better than any game ever played by at D James, Diener, Doc, Tony Miller, etc. wasn't better than Joplin's game because Kolek had 9 boards instead of 10?

Ya gotta laugh...

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 30, 2023, 07:37:07 PM
So the best game by an MU point guard in 20 (30,40, ever?) - better than any game ever played by at D James, Diener, Doc, Tony Miller, etc. wasn't better than Joplin's game because Kolek had 9 boards instead of 10?

Ya gotta laugh...

Diener put us on his back and carried us to an NCAA tournament victory on a day that Dwyane Wade didn't have it. If you really think Kolek's January game against DePaul was better or more impactful than that, we'll agree to disagree again. And Tony Miller was so good against Kentucky to get us into the Sweet 16 that lots of Marquette fans call that "the Tony Miller game."

But yes, those were 20 years and almost 30 years ago, so point taken.

Of course, if one considers Markus a PG (which he was most of his junior and senior seasons), I'm not sure I'm ready to concede that Tyler's near-triple-double against DePaul is better and more impactful than Markus' 53-point game at Creighton -- a game in which Markus also had 6 assists, including a perfect pass to set up Sam's incredible tying shot.

But whatevs. Thrilled we have Kolek and especially thrilled he put in the work to turn himself into one of the best PGs in the country.
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Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 30, 2023, 07:37:07 PM
Ya gotta laugh...

Agreed. 

We disagree on who should have been awarded the super duper prestigious, and always accurate MUScoop Stud of the Game.  Certainly something that should always go to the best statistical player of the game, or not...and just laugh.


panda

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 30, 2023, 08:27:49 PM
Agreed. 

We disagree on who should have been awarded the super duper prestigious, and always accurate MUScoop Stud of the Game.  Certainly something that should always go to the best statistical player of the game, or not...and just laugh.

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ceh

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I don't post much, but how did Kolek get passed over for this with a near triple double...the likes we have not seen at MU for 20ish years?!? 23 was good, but 11 was special.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU82 on January 30, 2023, 08:03:13 PM
Diener put us on his back and carried us to an NCAA tournament victory on a day that Dwyane Wade didn't have it. If you really think Kolek's January game against DePaul was better or more impactful than that, we'll agree to disagree again. And Tony Miller was so good against Kentucky to get us into the Sweet 16 that lots of Marquette fans call that "the Tony Miller game."

But yes, those were 20 years and almost 30 years ago, so point taken.



Mike,
Never said more impactful or important to our program. Of course Diener's first round NCAA tournament game vs Holy Cross was more important than a late January road game against DePaul. But who had the better performance?

29, 9-14, 4-5 3s, 1 rebound, 2 assists, 1 steal

24, 9-14, 4-6 3s, 9 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 steals

Yes, Holy Cross was #66 per Pomeroy that year, DePaul is #135. And Kolek had 4 turnovers.

But the fact that Kolek did more on the court vs DePaul than Diener did vs HC is pretty easy to argue.

I didn't even look up Miller's numbers vs Kentucky but I'm confident Kolek's were much better. Regardless, those are 2 games in the last 30 freakin' years! Was Jop's performance somehow better?

Sorry I've dragged this on for so long but I'm honestly stupefied that Kolek didn't get nearly unanimous support in this discussion.


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No no, the "S" stands for "scorer" you see.
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MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 30, 2023, 09:06:49 PM
Mike,
Never said more impactful or important to our program. Of course Diener's first round NCAA tournament game vs Holy Cross was more important than a late January road game against DePaul. But who had the better performance?

29, 9-14, 4-5 3s, 1 rebound, 2 assists, 1 steal

24, 9-14, 4-6 3s, 9 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 steals

Yes, Holy Cross was #66 per Pomeroy that year, DePaul is #135. And Kolek had 4 turnovers.

But the fact that Kolek did more on the court vs DePaul than Diener did vs HC is pretty easy to argue.

I didn't even look up Miller's numbers vs Kentucky but I'm confident Kolek's were much better. Regardless, those are 2 games in the last 30 freakin' years! Was Jop's performance somehow better?

Sorry I've dragged this on for so long but I'm honestly stupefied that Kolek didn't get nearly unanimous support in this discussion.

OK, Tony, I'll let you have the last word. See ya in the funny papers!
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Did not post on this since I am fine with either Tyler or David. Both are deserving. Tyler was out at the bars that night lol but did have 4 TOs.  David's went to BC lol and his shots were clutch. Sometimes they do have co rookie's of the year in the NBA but again am alright with either or both.

warriorchick

This guy thinks that Tyler is Stud of the Week for the entire country:

https://twitter.com/CBKReport/status/1620579834295627777
Have some patience, FFS.

panda


warriorchick

Have some patience, FFS.

Lennys Tap


TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: warriorchick on January 31, 2023, 09:10:21 PM
This guy thinks that Tyler is Stud of the Week for the entire country:

https://twitter.com/CBKReport/status/1620579834295627777
You found the one person on Twitter that is wrong about something.
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One last thought on STOG for the DePaul game.  I went to the game with a bunch of DePaul fans and others who had no steak in the game (in addition to my MU family). Despite Joplin going off from three, the only person they couldn't stop talking about after the game was TK and how he dominated DePaul.  From an outside perspective he was the clear stud.  But what a great problem to have this year as others have said.  I would have picked Joplin too because during the entirety of the game we needed his scoring to stay close and then break Depauls will at the end. 

Fortunately we have bigger picture fish to fry like Big East titles to win and final fours to get to and then TK will get his due with some real hardware.   He will be the stud of the season/year for MU with Oso being a close second.

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