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rgoode57

Anyone have an update on Emarion Ellis? I know he is not going to play this year, but was wondering how his recovery is going.

jfp61

No medical information update, but that dude is 1-2 inches taller.

tower912

He was in work out clothes in the video with the little boy the team has sort of adopted.    I have heard/read that he is working out, doing skills and drills, but no contact.

Like jfp, I have heard that he is taller and has filled out.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

We R Final Four

I asked him after a practice earlier this season.....he said it's frustrating.
Some scoopers assume he is the odd man out......I dont think so. He loves Shaka.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: We R Final Four on January 22, 2023, 12:03:57 PM
I asked him after a practice earlier this season.....he said it's frustrating.
Some scoopers assume he is the odd man out......I dont think so. He loves Shaka.

Odd man out is probably prosper. Dudes going pro.

JTJ3

Quote from: #UnleashSean on January 22, 2023, 01:20:12 PM
Odd man out is probably prosper. Dudes going pro.

Thats what I expect as well.

Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: #UnleashSean on January 22, 2023, 01:20:12 PM
Odd man out is probably prosper. Dudes going pro.
You're probably right about Prosper, especially if he graduates this year, but what about 6'9/10" Itejere? We hear so little about him and his future here.

Jockey

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 22, 2023, 01:48:17 PM
You're probably right about Prosper, especially if he graduates this year, but what about 6'9/10" Itejere? We hear so little about him and his future here.

Itejere is not ready to contribute.

I also doubt that O-Max goes pro after this season.

Ellis really looks up to Shake. I wouldn't expect him to leave unless Shaka tells him it is a good career decision to do so.

Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: Jockey on January 22, 2023, 02:05:22 PM
Itejere is not ready to contribute.

I also doubt that O-Max goes pro after this season.

Ellis really looks up to Shake. I wouldn't expect him to leave unless Shaka tells him it is a good career decision to do so.
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So if Itejere is not ready to play after two years on the team, will he be on the team next year?

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 22, 2023, 01:48:17 PM
You're probably right about Prosper, especially if he graduates this year, but what about 6'9/10" Itejere? We hear so little about him and his future here.

Itejere will solve our +1 scholarship issue. If he can't even see the floor after a redshirt year where MU is thin at the 4/5, I doubt he's here last this year.

Admittedly put speculation on my part though, no insider info or anything like that.

junglecat022

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 22, 2023, 02:28:17 PM
Itejere will solve our +1 scholarship issue. If he can't even see the floor after a redshirt year where MU is thin at the 4/5, I doubt he's here last this year.

Admittedly put speculation on my part though, no insider info or anything like that.

Last season Nevada Smith said he was "the best athlete maybe in college basketball. He should be in the decathlon." With Keeyan's athletic gifts I have to imagine he could eventually be a very competitive track & field athlete, even if he's never formally competed before. MU has previously had both men's and women's soccer players as well as a volleyball player convert to T&F.

Any chance of a Wally Ellenson type situation, i.e. becoming a T&F scholarship athlete (competing in select meets) and transitioning to a basketball walk-on?

Of course this would have to be something mutually agreeable to all parties.

tower912

That is why I don't think Keeyan is leaving.  I think he is the 4th most likely to leave.  Maybe 5th.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

wadesworld

Quote from: junglecat022 on January 22, 2023, 05:03:45 PM
Last season Nevada Smith said he was "the best athlete maybe in college basketball. He should be in the decathlon." With Keeyan's athletic gifts I have to imagine he could eventually be a very competitive track & field athlete, even if he's never formally competed before. MU has previously had both men's and women's soccer players as well as a volleyball player convert to T&F.

Any chance of a Wally Ellenson type situation, i.e. becoming a T&F scholarship athlete (competing in select meets) and transitioning to a basketball walk-on?

Of course this would have to be something mutually agreeable to all parties.

Can't do that. Otherwise you'd stash a bunch of basketball and football players on track and field scholarships and have them "walk on" to basketball and football.

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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: #UnleashSean on January 22, 2023, 01:20:12 PM
Odd man out is probably prosper. Dudes going pro.

What makes you say that? Omax is a really nice college player, but I don't see him getting anything more than a cup of coffee in the nba.
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Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 22, 2023, 05:36:50 PM
What makes you say that? Omax is a really nice college player, but I don't see him getting anything more than a cup of coffee in the nba.
You're saying that because he had a bad game.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 22, 2023, 06:04:31 PM
You're saying that because he had a bad game.

OMax isn't on any draft boards.  He is a draft prospect however.

Each player is going to make their OWN decision, but don't think he didn't see what happened to Justin last year.

He'll for sure go through the process.
VIOLENCE!

panda

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 22, 2023, 05:36:50 PM
What makes you say that? Omax is a really nice college player, but I don't see him getting anything more than a cup of coffee in the nba.

He's definitely a prospect but outside shooting is nowhere near it needs to be for a team to even take a flier on him. Vander was a much more complete player and didn't get drafted and barely got a sniff.

However - G League is much more of a viable option than it was years ago. "Going pro" doesn't mean what it did even four years ago.

Ellenson Guerrero

Quote from: panda on January 22, 2023, 06:31:28 PM
He's definitely a prospect but outside shooting is nowhere near it needs to be for a team to even take a flier on him. Vander was a much more complete player and didn't get drafted and barely got a sniff.

However - G League is much more of a viable option than it was years ago. "Going pro" doesn't mean what it did even four years ago.

To be fair, O-Max is about 4 inches taller than Vander. He does need to improve his three point shot but he at least has a chance. Vander never did, which is why it was so frustrating when he left early.
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: junglecat022 on January 22, 2023, 05:03:45 PM
Last season Nevada Smith said he was "the best athlete maybe in college basketball. He should be in the decathlon." With Keeyan's athletic gifts I have to imagine he could eventually be a very competitive track & field athlete, even if he's never formally competed before. MU has previously had both men's and women's soccer players as well as a volleyball player convert to T&F.

Any chance of a Wally Ellenson type situation, i.e. becoming a T&F scholarship athlete (competing in select meets) and transitioning to a basketball walk-on?

Of course this would have to be something mutually agreeable to all parties.

Better chance that Shaka adopts him.

panda

Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on January 22, 2023, 06:42:03 PM
To be fair, O-Max is about 4 inches taller than Vander. He does need to improve his three point shot but he at least has a chance. Vander never did, which is why it was so frustrating when he left early.

To be fair - they play different positions so height difference between the two is irrelevant. Omax more height appropriate for his position at the next level, but vander was grossly undersized. Lack of shooting held him back.

BCHoopster

Quote from: panda on January 22, 2023, 06:31:28 PM
He's definitely a prospect but outside shooting is nowhere near it needs to be for a team to even take a flier on him. Vander was a much more complete player and didn't get drafted and barely got a sniff.

However - G League is much more of a viable option than it was years ago. "Going pro" doesn't mean what it did even four years ago.

G league salary is 40K, he will do better at MU with no expenses. 

panda

Quote from: BCHoopster on January 22, 2023, 06:53:31 PM
G league salary is 40K, he will do better at MU with no expenses.

Development and competition is much higher than college game. Personal decision with +s and -s to each.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: panda on January 22, 2023, 06:59:11 PM
Development and competition is much higher than college game. Personal decision with +s and -s to each.

Much more of a grind. 

Small crowds, limited money, limited minutes.  Feels like your playing strictly for yourself as game results don't really matter.  Some guys are fine with all of that.  Depends on the player.
VIOLENCE!

panda

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 22, 2023, 07:05:49 PM
Much more of a grind. 

Small crowds, limited money, limited minutes.  Feels like your playing strictly for yourself as game results don't really matter.  Some guys are fine with all of that.  Depends on the player.

Aka personal preference

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