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Author Topic: Bracketology Thread 2023  (Read 80247 times)

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2023, 07:29:37 PM »
Yes, we do, and this is evidence you don't understand the process. I almost never look at head to head. Honestly, I don't care about it at all unless there's no separating the teams. On 1/1, I had Baylor as a 4 and Marquette as a 7. Baylor's best wins were UCLA & Gonzaga on neutral courts, both better than Marquette's home win over Baylor. They had no losses outside Q1, while MU lost at home to a sub-50 UW team. The resumes weren't even close.

Had Marquette beat Madison and Providence, then maybe that head to head comes into play. But they didn't, so it didn't. You'd have to be really lazy or biased to put Marquette ahead of Baylor.

With H2H not mattering, what is the basis for then having UW ahead of Marquette? Marquette has better metrics and Wisconsin has a Q3 loss.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2023, 07:51:41 PM »
With H2H not mattering, what is the basis for then having UW ahead of Marquette? Marquette has better metrics and Wisconsin has a Q3 loss.

Wisconsin is 5-1 vs Q1+2, Marquette is 4-4. They are very close to each other currently, but that Q1+2 number is huge.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2023, 07:56:08 PM »
Wisconsin is 5-1 vs Q1+2, Marquette is 4-4. They are very close to each other currently, but that Q1+2 number is huge.

Got it, thanks.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2023, 08:53:54 AM »
Lunardi has Marquette as the last 4 seed, just inside the Top 16.  MASSIVE MASSIVE week ahead.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2023, 09:09:12 AM »
Lunardi has Marquette as the last 4 seed, just inside the Top 16.  MASSIVE MASSIVE week ahead.

Gargantuan week for MU hoops.  This very well could be the beginning of the prime-time resurgence Goose has mentioned a number of times. 

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2023, 09:15:27 AM »
Gargantuan week for MU hoops.  This very well could be the beginning of the prime-time resurgence Goose has mentioned a number of times.

Win 2 of the next 3 and there is a real path inside the Top 16. Probably tough to do without winning at least 2 of the next 3.

Start with 1 tomorrow!
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2023, 09:19:34 AM »
Lunardi has Marquette as the last 4 seed, just inside the Top 16.  MASSIVE MASSIVE week ahead.

Lunardi's bracket is always wack.

He had us as a 5. Dropped us to a 6 after beating SJU. Which I thought was reasonable due to our lack of wins plus some of the other results teams like Kstate and ISU for example had last week.

But now we launched up to a 4 playing Gtown. I think hes got us higher than what we would really be at ths point.

But big week this week and it could be a legit 4/5
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2023, 09:22:33 AM »
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2023, 09:25:54 AM »
Lunardi's bracket is always wack.

He had us as a 5. Dropped us to a 6 after beating SJU. Which I thought was reasonable due to our lack of wins plus some of the other results teams like Kstate and ISU for example had last week.

But now we launched up to a 4 playing Gtown. I think hes got us higher than what we would really be at ths point.

But big week this week and it could be a legit 4/5

Yea, Bracketmatrix has us as the 3rd 6, which feels right.  Very well could be in the top 4 seed line by this time next week though.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2023, 09:28:01 AM »
Win 2 of next 3, they may be on track for a 4 or 5 seed if they take care of business the rest of the way …

I think MU can win tomorrow.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2023, 09:47:32 AM »
Hi Hate WI, but how does he have Marquette as a 4 and WI as a 7 seed? Is it due to there lower than anticipated NET Ranking (56)?

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2023, 09:50:53 AM »
It's because Lunardi is a click bait seeker. We aren't in protected seed territory. He's simply wrong right now.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2023, 09:55:25 AM »
It's because Lunardi is a click bait seeker. We aren't in protected seed territory. He's simply wrong right now.

Didn't just yesterday you say that if the MU hung onto their top 25 rankings post-PC 2OT loss, they'd be a top 15 team right now, which also equates to a protected seed?

I am not arguing either way as I think MU has too many losses at the moment to be a top 16 team resume-wise, but I am getting more convinced by the day they may actually be one of the best 15 teams in the country even if the resume doesn't support that with the Wisco and Miss St losses.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2023, 12:09:08 PM »
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Yes.  it's a MAMMOTH week whether people want to accept facts or not.  We are more than capable of inflicting relentless damage and getting two wins. 

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2023, 12:25:45 PM »
Yes.  it's a MAMMOTH week whether people want to accept facts or not. 

Has anyone questioned that this is a big week? I think everyone agrees that these are two of the biggest games left on our schedule. Arguably the 2nd and 3rd toughest games of the Big East schedule.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2023, 12:40:46 PM »
Yes.  it's a MAMMOTH week whether people want to accept facts or not.  We are more than capable of inflicting relentless damage and getting two wins.

Thanks, Muggs. I had been thinking this game didn't matter at all. Sunday's too.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2023, 12:43:44 PM »
Thanks, Muggs. I had been thinking this game didn't matter at all. Sunday's too.

The players nor the fans cannot lose focus here. 

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2023, 12:44:49 PM »
Didn't just yesterday you say that if the MU hung onto their top 25 rankings post-PC 2OT loss, they'd be a top 15 team right now, which also equates to a protected seed?

I am not arguing either way as I think MU has too many losses at the moment to be a top 16 team resume-wise, but I am getting more convinced by the day they may actually be one of the best 15 teams in the country even if the resume doesn't support that with the Wisco and Miss St losses.


Thats AP ranking vs tournament seeding.  Very different animals.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2023, 12:55:41 PM »

Thats AP ranking vs tournament seeding.  Very different animals.

I am well aware of the difference and stated as much.  Still curious how one could say you'd be a top 15 team, yet "not in protected seed" territory. 
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2023, 12:55:56 PM »
The players nor the fans cannot lose focus here.

What would happen if the fans not going to the game lost focus?
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2023, 12:57:18 PM »
I am well aware of the difference and stated as much.  Still curious how one could say you'd be a top 15 team, yet "not in protected seed" territory.

Because our resume is not in protected seed territory at the moment. That doesn't mean that we aren't a top 16 team
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2023, 01:00:31 PM »
NET no matta, AP no matta, head to head no matta, Sagrin no matta, KenPom no matta, RPI no matta and Lunardi no matta. And of course FT and wins no matta.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2023, 01:04:11 PM »
What would happen if the fans not going to the game lost focus?

I'm going to the game and I worry I'll lose focus. It's those parachutes with the free t-shirts.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #73 on: January 10, 2023, 02:27:13 PM »
Wait.   Who are we playing?    Anybody good?
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #74 on: January 10, 2023, 08:15:16 PM »
The players nor the fans cannot lose focus here.
I don't lose focus because I don't go into game thread anymore
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