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jfp61

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 02, 2023, 02:44:34 PM
I think some of the Jop flack on here is mind boggling at times. The guy is absolutely flawed as he still works to refining his game at this level and limit the things hes bad at(like dribbling and sidde stepping at negative speed) but hes also got some true god given talent scoring the basektball.

The guy can get buckets. And I said it in a game thread a few games ago, IF(and its a big if) he is either able to improve defensively and/or work on his sloppy/weak ball skills in the paint. He will be a near 20 ppg scorer imo.

We are a pretty damn good basketball team when basically the only player getting piled on is the 6th man who is capable of scoring 15 pts in 20 minutes of PT at any time.

He is fine. David is a tremendous shooter who takes a lot of shots. But their are 6 better players than him on this basketball team, and he probably should play a little less. All i advocated for was not giving him post touches (when he is playing poorly inside the arc) and playing Chase Ross more than him. He can still give Marquette 7.5 ppg playing 15 minutes.

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 01, 2023, 05:36:51 PM
And you're just seeking reasons to be critical. Every coach makes calls during games that don't work out.

OK, Scoop Police, you got me. Anyone who doesn't think that play at the end of the half was brilliant obviously hates Shaka. Same with the two Kolek long pass plays vs Madison.
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Dickthedribbler

Quote from: NCMUFan on January 02, 2023, 02:42:20 PM
Shaka knows his players and their potentials.
Present and future look bright for Joplin.

I think Joplin is generally a good jump shooter. It is shot selection that screws up his performance and screws up his statstics.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: MU82 on January 02, 2023, 03:29:45 PM
OK, Scoop Police, you got me. Anyone who doesn't think that play at the end of the half was brilliant obviously hates Shaka. Same with the two Kolek long pass plays vs Madison.

Damn...and I thought I liked Shaka. Because those two inbounds plays at the end of the Wisconsin game made me as angry as I've been after a Marquette game in a long time.
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Goose

jfp

I have zero issue with Ross getting more minutes. One thing that has impressed me was Shaka's handling of playing time and lineups. My comments on Joplin are long term, not game to game.

82

The play at the end of the half sucked and the plays at end of Badger game sucked. Shaka drew them up and egg on his face. I am sure there will be additional snafu's over the upcoming seasons.

MU82

Quote from: Goose on January 02, 2023, 03:34:42 PM
The play at the end of the half sucked and the plays at end of Badger game sucked. Shaka drew them up and egg on his face. I am sure there will be additional snafu's over the upcoming seasons.

Yessir. One can think the world of any coach while also saying he's not perfect.

Saying Shaka shoulda fouled up 3 vs Creighton last season isn't saying he sucks. It's just fans being frustrated by a mistake that took place on the coach's watch.

Like you, I'm thrilled that Shaka is my alma mater's coach! He's doing a hell of a job.
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MUfan12

That last play of the half was Kolek's fault just as much as anyone else. He ran the ball up the floor and got into the action way too early.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 02, 2023, 03:10:22 PM
Dead on. Shaka needs him to be a banger this season with Zach out.  And he will need to fully assume the SF starter role next season. I remember Lazar his frosh and sophomore years.  Not super athletic or strong, just a good shooter.  Then his junior year came and he was a different body type and became a banger.

I love Jop but I could do without the dribbling around without a purpose/dribbling to force a shot.  He cuts that out and he fulfills his role perfectly in my opinion.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 02, 2023, 04:05:15 PM
I love Jop but I could do without the dribbling around without a purpose/dribbling to force a shot.  He cuts that out and he fulfills his role perfectly in my opinion.

The book on him is that you can collapse when he gets in the lane because he doesn't pass.

Get less sticky with the ball and he's a weapon
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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Goose

Jake

He definitely is not a passer at this point.

tower912

To be fair, neither is Sean at this point.     Patience.     Young team.    Still succeeding.    They will all improve. 
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Goose

tower

Kam has shown the ability to pass and has some fancy assists, but still a work in progress. In his defense, he is a better ball handler and a better finisher.

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on January 02, 2023, 03:29:45 PM
OK, Scoop Police, you got me. Anyone who doesn't think that play at the end of the half was brilliant obviously hates Shaka. Same with the two Kolek long pass plays vs Madison.


I didn't say either were great plays. But keep doing the trite sports-writer fallback of extreme hyperbole to justify saying something dumb.
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tower912

Quote from: Goose on January 02, 2023, 04:18:20 PM
tower

Kam has shown the ability to pass and has some fancy assists, but still a work in progress. In his defense, he is a better ball handler and a better finisher.
Agreed.  He had an a ha moment a few weeks ago and has been a more complete player since.  I am looking forward to that happening for Joplin.
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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wadesworld

Joplin played poorly, but the couple buckets he did have were big buckets.

panda

Jop is a bucket. He'll be a true 1/1a option on this team once the game slows down for him a bit.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 02, 2023, 03:10:22 PM
Dead on. Shaka needs him to be a banger this season with Zach out.  And he will need to fully assume the SF starter role next season. I remember Lazar his frosh and sophomore years.  Not super athletic or strong, just a good shooter.  Then his junior year came and he was a different body type and became a banger.

He will need to fully assume the starting SF role next season?  It's quite possible our entire current starting lineup will be back.

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: wadesworld on January 02, 2023, 08:20:28 PM
Joplin played poorly, but the couple buckets he did have were big buckets.

This is the answer

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 02, 2023, 04:20:43 PM

I didn't say either were great plays. But keep doing the trite sports-writer fallback of extreme hyperbole to justify saying something dumb.

Well, you did say I was "just seeking reasons to be critical," indicating you thought I was wrong and that the plays were A-OK. But sure, Officer, you got me again.
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 02, 2023, 08:54:36 PM
He will need to fully assume the starting SF role next season?  It's quite possible our entire current starting lineup will be back.

Or not

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 02, 2023, 11:15:21 PM
Or not

Saying he will need to instead of he may have to are two vastly different things.

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