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We R Final Four

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on December 05, 2022, 10:59:35 AM
I missed it, but if a student pulled down a female student's shirt on the jumbotron, they better hope she took it as a joke otherwise they may be looking at a suspension
TAMU....crop tops get pulled up.....not down.

JakeBarnes

It was an pretty boy move. Sucks for the student. Good on the jumbotron camera person foe the quick hook

Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

avid1010

Quote from: tower912 on December 05, 2022, 11:38:06 AM
So, a crime report and 4ever does his creepy old guy schtick.   Odd.  Or not.
Creepy if it's a schtick (ploy for attention)...unsettling if he's sincere.  It always comes off as the kid who wanted to be cool and everyone looked at him like he was an idiot...but he never got it.  I'm 40...made plenty of mistakes as a kid...we stopped talking like that in the locker room around the age of 17...and today we all acknowledge how dumb that talk was. 

StillWarriors

Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 05, 2022, 01:27:43 PM
It was an pretty boy move. Sucks for the student. Good on the jumbotron camera person foe the quick hook

It was gone quickly, but I thought it was a girl that lifted the crop top. Not sure that changes anything in terms of anyone getting in trouble, but I suspect the perception changes some.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 05, 2022, 01:12:48 PM
TAMU....crop tops get pulled up.....not down.

Apparently married with kids Merlin is a bit out of practice, hey?

JakeBarnes

Quote from: StillWarriors on December 05, 2022, 01:42:18 PM
It was gone quickly, but I thought it was a girl that lifted the crop top. Not sure that changes anything in terms of anyone getting in trouble, but I suspect the perception changes some.
Not sure why it was pretty boy. I wrote "pretty crapty"
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

Dickthedribbler

Quote from: StillWarriors on December 05, 2022, 01:42:18 PM
It was gone quickly, but I thought it was a girl that lifted the crop top. Not sure that changes anything in terms of anyone getting in trouble, but I suspect the perception changes some.

I don't know.

I do recall that one of my first thoughts in the moment, was "wow, that sure looked like a fat, hairy hand to me ( meaning male)". But you'd have to look at the Zapruder film frame by frame to determine for sure.

But I do know that if the same incident occurred across the street from the Fiserv one hour after the game, someone would have gone to jail and would probably be sued (if that's the direction the young lady wanted to take things).

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: StillWarriors on December 05, 2022, 01:42:18 PM
It was gone quickly, but I thought it was a girl that lifted the crop top. Not sure that changes anything in terms of anyone getting in trouble, but I suspect the perception changes some.

It might change the perception in the court of public opinion but not in actual court.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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We R Final Four

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 05, 2022, 01:45:20 PM
Apparently married with kids Merlin is a bit out of practice, hey?
Or he learned something new today he never knew prior.

pbiflyer

Quote from: cheebs09 on December 05, 2022, 11:16:26 AM
Yea. They actually showed her later which was surprising.

I would imagine there is some form of punishment handed down being that is technically assault.

So, a Dental school student?

rocket surgeon

just opened this up and when i saw your question, i thought holy chit maybe i wasn't the only one who saw...not bresticles, but the cam was on a couple of coeds smiling and goofing around and when the dude sitting behind them realized the girls were on the jumbo, he went poked his head (not that head)between them and mimicked the motions of what many would classify as the universal motions of giving a lewinsky

   
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

lostpassword

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on December 05, 2022, 10:59:35 AM
I missed it, but if a student pulled down a female student's shirt on the jumbotron, they better hope she took it as a joke otherwise they may be looking at a suspension

I was curious about this.  If she laughs it off does that mean said offender is in the clear?  ...or is this something the Fiserv and/or university could pursue?

We R Final Four

Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 05, 2022, 07:20:06 PM
just opened this up and when i saw your question, i thought holy chit maybe i wasn't the only one who saw...not bresticles, but the cam was on a couple of coeds smiling and goofing around and when the dude sitting behind them realized the girls were on the jumbo, he went poked his head (not that head)between them and mimicked the motions of what many would classify as the universal motions of giving a lewinsky


Stay classy.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: lostpassword on December 05, 2022, 07:30:09 PM
I was curious about this.  If she laughs it off does that mean said offender is in the clear?  ...or is this something the Fiserv and/or university could pursue?

  i wouldn't think so.  could've been a nervous laugh, like wtf just happened laugh.  then you've got the post incident comments when she realizes more than a few saw it.  i would think this is between her, the perpetrator and the school.  this might not be the end of that "seemed like a funny thing to do at the moment" 
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

lostpassword

Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 05, 2022, 07:42:39 PM
  i wouldn't think so.  could've been a nervous laugh, like wtf just happened laugh.  then you've got the post incident comments when she realizes more than a few saw it.  i would think this is between her, the perpetrator and the school.  this might not be the end of that "seemed like a funny thing to do at the moment"

By 'laugh it off' meant if she wasn't going to pursue... was curious to what extent this is solely the victim's decision to pursue

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 05, 2022, 05:20:18 PM
Or he learned something new today he never knew prior.

Or I read crop top as tube top. I've had more than one case involving involuntary tube top removal
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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rocket surgeon

Quote from: lostpassword on December 05, 2022, 07:51:45 PM
By 'laugh it off' meant if she wasn't going to pursue... was curious to what extent this is solely the victim's decision to pursue

good question-would school do something if it were brought to their attention or if they actually saw it first hand.  maybe someone like tamu or sully would have a schools perspective on this
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

TAMU, Knower of Ball

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Quote from: lostpassword on December 05, 2022, 07:30:09 PM
I was curious about this.  If she laughs it off does that mean said offender is in the clear?  ...or is this something the Fiserv and/or university could pursue?

Fiserv is a private entity so they can do whatever the ef they feel like. If they can somehow identify the perp, I wouldn't be surprised to see them banned.

The university is a private entity also but is subject to Title IX. They can pursue with or without the woman's blessing, however most will not unless they have a willing complainant. The only exception would likely be if this individual was a serial who had done this multiple times.  Then it becomes a campus safety issue.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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lostpassword

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on December 05, 2022, 07:57:42 PM
Fiserv is a private entity so they can do whatever the ef they feel like. If they can somehow identify the perp, I wouldn't be surprised to see them banned.

The university is a private entity also but is subject to Title IX. They can pursue with or without the woman's blessing, however most will not unless they have a willing complainant. The only exception would likely be if this individual was a serial who had done this multiple times.  Then it becomes a campus safety issue.

Makes sense. Thank you for providing that insight.

We R Final Four

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on December 05, 2022, 07:52:38 PM
Or I read crop top as tube top. I've had more than one case involving involuntary tube top removal
I was referring to lack of personal experience.......not cases brought to your attention. But either way is an education.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 05, 2022, 08:10:01 PM
I was referring to lack of personal experience.......not cases brought to your attention. But either way is an education.

I got the joke.  Unfortunately too much non personal experience in that area
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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NCMUFan

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mileskishnish72

To broaden the discussion, it would be quite helpful if someone could reproduce the brief segment here on Scoop. Then those of us who could not see the Jumbotron would be in a much better position to contribute to this very serious  and disturbing topic.

The Lens

What I saw was a girl tried to flash the crowd (lift up her crop top) and her friend (the 3rd hand) actually pulled down against her.  It all happened quick but this looked like the other hand was more trying to restore order rather than instigate chaos / assault.  The camera guy got out of there quick as well, beofre even the director saw it. 

     
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Jay Bee

Quote from: The Lens on December 06, 2022, 08:37:04 AM
What I saw was a girl tried to flash the crowd (lift up her crop top) and her friend (the 3rd hand) actually pulled down against her.  It all happened quick but this looked like the other hand was more trying to restore order rather than instigate chaos / assault.  The camera guy got out of there quick as well, beofre even the director saw it. 

^^^ victim shaming!!
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