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Newsdreams

Goal is National Championship
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The Zags dodge another bullet, 75-74 over BYU.
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MU82

Quote from: tower912 on January 13, 2023, 07:29:42 AM
Tubby Smith and how he was treated.

Sure. Logical. But some say money and prestige trumps any possible negatives. "It'll be different for me ... and that's a lot of money. And, well ... It's Kentucky! It's Kentucky!"
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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Quote from: MarquetteDano on January 13, 2023, 07:49:34 AM
To take a limefrom a poster around here, I will eat my hat if either Wright or Stevens takes the UK job.

Well, the lime would make your hat taste better.

Newsdreams

Quote from: MU82 on January 13, 2023, 08:35:04 AM
Sure. Logical. But some say money and prestige trumps any possible negatives. "It'll be different for me ... and that's a lot of money. And, well ... It's Kentucky! It's Kentucky!"
TC & I4, hey
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on January 13, 2023, 08:35:04 AM
Sure. Logical. But some say money and prestige trumps any possible negatives. "It'll be different for me ... and that's a lot of money. And, well ... It's Kentucky! It's Kentucky!"

I'd be concerned if Shaka hadn't done Texas already.  And if Barnhart doesn't like Oats style of play, I doubt he'd like Shaka's style of play.

Honestly, it's probably Greg Gurd's job to lose
Guster is for Lovers

MUfan12

Bart Lundy seems to have UWM back on track. That league is a shell of what it was, but still an impressive job so far.

The Sultan

OTOH, UWGB is absolutely terrible. Bo's kid is way over his head.
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MUfan12

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 13, 2023, 09:20:10 AM
OTOH, UWGB is absolutely terrible. Bo's kid is way over his head.

It bums me out to see how far that program has fallen.

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 13, 2023, 08:59:42 AM
I'd be concerned if Shaka hadn't done Texas already.

See, that's what I'm saying, Unk. Some coaches, whether they tried the "big powerful school" thing and found it to be a poor fit (Shaka), or whether they simply like where they are (Wright, Few) won't be interested in Kentucky, no matter how glamorous or high-paying.

Now, I don't know squat about what Oats or Drew would think about all that. Both surely know they don't "need" Kentucky for any reason. Doesn't mean they won't take the job if offered, though.
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I had a conversation yesterday with someone who is very good friends with Drew. He'd doesn't think Scott leaves Baylor, hey?
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MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 13, 2023, 10:02:24 AM
I had a conversation yesterday with someone who is very good friends with Drew. He'd doesn't think Scott leaves Baylor, hey?

Why should he? He has everything he needs there. Can win national titles. Big fish in small pond. Much less pressure. Makes $$$$$$$$$$.

Unless it's always been his life goal to coach a blueblood, it really makes little sense to leave Baylor for Kentucky.
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

Gosh Nads, wee actually agree on somethin', hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

brewcity77

Quote from: tower912 on January 13, 2023, 07:29:42 AM
Tubby Smith and how he was treated.

Also Texas, and how Shaka was treated.

He recruited how they wanted, played how they wanted, and had his best team ever with a Big 12 tourney title in hand and they were still ready to nudge him out. If what he did wasn't good enough for a football school like Texas, imagine how Kentucky would treat him if he wasn't cutting nets every couple years.

The best thing that happened to Marquette was Shaka turning us down in 2014 so he could take Texas the next year. I truly believe that.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 13, 2023, 10:02:24 AM
I had a conversation yesterday with someone who is very good friends with Drew. He'd doesn't think Scott leaves Baylor, hey?

This doesn't surprise me.  Maybe if he hadn't won it all, he might be tempted but not sure what the appeal of Kentucky would be to a coach who has won it all.
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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 13, 2023, 10:28:41 AM
Also Texas, and how Shaka was treated.

He recruited how they wanted, played how they wanted, and had his best team ever with a Big 12 tourney title in hand and they were still ready to nudge him out. If what he did wasn't good enough for a football school like Texas, imagine how Kentucky would treat him if he wasn't cutting nets every couple years.

The best thing that happened to Marquette was Shaka turning us down in 2014 so he could take Texas the next year. I truly believe that.

Agree on 2014.

Kentucky fans are obnoxious, insufferable, and intolerant of any coach losing a single game. I get the "but its Kentucky" argument, but at some point, the fame and money simply is not enough. I think Shaka is at that point.
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rgoode57

I grew up in Kentucky and still have lots of friends there. It is a truly unique basketball state. Tubby Smith was never liked there but not entirely for racial reasons. His teams were never very exciting and neither was he, though a very solid coach. If Calipari leaves, which is doubtful in my opinion, UK will throw a lot of money at the coach they want. It will be a hard job to turn down. Yes, there is a lot of pressure, but Lexington is a great town. And, the pressure is no different than being the football coach at Alabama, LSU, or Ohio State.

UK is also the kind of place that would definitely look at hiring Chris Beard. Yes, he is seriously flawed now, but, after all, we are talking about Kentucky and basketball.

MU82

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 13, 2023, 10:28:41 AM
Also Texas, and how Shaka was treated.

He recruited how they wanted, played how they wanted, and had his best team ever with a Big 12 tourney title in hand and they were still ready to nudge him out. If what he did wasn't good enough for a football school like Texas, imagine how Kentucky would treat him if he wasn't cutting nets every couple years.

The best thing that happened to Marquette was Shaka turning us down in 2014 so he could take Texas the next year. I truly believe that.

My buddies and I were talking about exactly that a few days ago. He'd have taken the Marquette job but almost surely as a stepping stone for whatever he perceived as his "dream job." And we'd have been looking for our next coach 4-6 years later, still carrying the stepping-stone label.

We had to endure Wojo, but in the long run it will have been well worth it to have been rejected by Mrs. Shaka in 2014.

Quote from: rgoode57 on January 13, 2023, 11:55:31 AM
Tubby Smith was never liked there but not entirely for racial reasons.

Well, as long as it wasn't entirely for racial reasons!
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Newsdreams

Quote from: MU82 on January 13, 2023, 12:31:28 PM
My buddies and I were talking about exactly that a few days ago. He'd have taken the Marquette job but almost surely as a stepping stone for whatever he perceived as his "dream job." And we'd have been looking for our next coach 4-6 years later, still carrying the stepping-stone label.

We had to endure Wojo, but in the long run it will have been well worth it to have been rejected by Mrs. Shaka in 2014.

Well, as long as it wasn't entirely for racial reasons!
Yeah, LOL was going to point that out.
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Maybe one day Shaka decides he wants to try again at a bigger school. That day is not anytime soon IMHO
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MU82

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on January 13, 2023, 02:07:33 PM
Maybe one day Shaka decides he wants to try again at a bigger school. That day is not anytime soon IMHO

Maybe.

But if he can regularly take Marquette to second weekends (and hopefully beyond once or thrice!), and if the administration continues to pour $$$ into the program, he might have little incentive to do so. He could be our Jay Wright.
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LAZER

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 13, 2023, 10:28:41 AM
Also Texas, and how Shaka was treated.

He recruited how they wanted, played how they wanted, and had his best team ever with a Big 12 tourney title in hand and they were still ready to nudge him out. If what he did wasn't good enough for a football school like Texas, imagine how Kentucky would treat him if he wasn't cutting nets every couple years.

The best thing that happened to Marquette was Shaka turning us down in 2014 so he could take Texas the next year. I truly believe that.
I don't think Shaka had a very good run at Texas. I honestly don't blame them for wanting to make a change and I'm very grateful that they were ready to move on.

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