2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread

[MuggsyB]

Damn. It sure would have been nice to steal a win at Purdue.

They are having their way with Gonzaga in the 1st half.

It was definitely a winnable game, we lost poise down the stretch..  Purdue did however earn the W.  The Miss St. loss was a fking meltdown.....meaning we threw that game away.  That was a killer.  We need to beat Wisky and ND.  Maybe just maybe we can shock the world by punking Baylor. 

[🏀]

Does KenPom really mean anything through 4-5 games.  What's Grambling State's KenPom and how did they beat Colorado?

Yeah, how can we trust these computers?

[GoldenEagles03]

Purdue is just handling Gonzaga with ease through 32 minutes.

If only we didn't blow that 9 point lead. That road win would have gone a long way.

[MuggsyB]

Purdue is just handling Gonzaga with ease through 32 minutes.

If only we didn't blow that 9 point lead. That road win would have gone a long way.

Pretty impressive that we outrebounded Purdue. 

[GoldenEagles03]

The last 8 minutes were even better than the first 32.

Purdue 84
Gonzaga 66

Wow.

*and because of these results, Xavier gets Gonzaga in the 3rd place game. Tough consolation prize for the Musketeers.

[Scoop Snoop]

It was definitely a winnable game, we lost poise down the stretch..  Purdue did however earn the W.  The Miss St. loss was a fking meltdown.....meaning we threw that game away.  That was a killer.  We need to beat Wisky and ND.  Maybe just maybe we can shock the world by punking Baylor.

Possible but not probable. But considering the wild games and upsets the past few days, who knows? I really like our team. They're fun to watch (well, not always, but... ) and I am still hoping for "3 in 3"- MU finishing #3 BE in Shaka year 3. Whether they surprise as they did last January or struggle as they gain experience, my long view on our team is very bright.

[MU82]

Possible but not probable. But considering the wild games and upsets the past few days, who knows? I really like our team. They're fun to watch (well, not always, but... ) and I am still hoping for "3 in 3"- MU finishing #3 BE in Shaka year 3. Whether they surprise as they did last January or struggle as they gain experience, my long view on our team is very bright.

A reasonable, realistic (i.e. un-Scoopy) viewpoint.

[wadesworld]

Too bad Purdue isn't a top 25 team and Edey is trash, am I right?

[Elonsmusk]

Too bad Purdue isn't a top 25 team and Edey is trash, am I right?

Too bad you think our team is trash, yet we led Purdue for 34 minutes on its home floor in Year 2 of the Shaka regime.  Yet somehow you were Wojo's biggest fanboy for 5+ years, even knowing that in his 2nd year at MU we got our doors absolutely blown off at home by #23 Iowa, 89-61.  But hey, he at least could recruit a McDonald's All American in Henry, right?  And Shaka's recruiting sucks, as we don't have any "dudes."  Am I right?

[wadesworld]

Too bad you think our team is trash, yet we led Purdue for 34 minutes on its home floor in Year 2 of the Shaka regime.  Yet somehow you were Wojo's biggest fanboy for 5+ years, even knowing that in his 2nd year at MU we got our doors absolutely blown off at home by #23 Iowa, 89-61.  But hey, he at least could recruit a McDonald's All American in Henry, right?  And Shaka's recruiting sucks, as we don't have any "dudes."  Am I right?

How many times are you going to bring up Wojo and how many times do I need to tell you he's no longer our coach and all I care about is what Shaka does now? Stopped reading after you brought him up.

Wish you wouldn't have bailed on our bet. Would love to have to pay up due to Kolek shooting well. And if I had won would still have loved to donate to a good cause. But that's what you do. You talk big and when it comes time to put your money where your mouth is you just turn to things you and Zigg consider to be funny insults.

[The Sultan]

Too bad you think our team is trash, yet we led Purdue for 34 minutes on its home floor in Year 2 of the Shaka regime.  Yet somehow you were Wojo's biggest fanboy for 5+ years, even knowing that in his 2nd year at MU we got our doors absolutely blown off at home by #23 Iowa, 89-61.  But hey, he at least could recruit a McDonald's All American in Henry, right?  And Shaka's recruiting sucks, as we don't have any "dudes."  Am I right?

You can stop living in the past any day now.

[Elonsmusk]

How many times are you going to bring up Wojo and how many times do I need to tell you he's no longer our coach and all I care about is what Shaka does now? Stopped reading after you brought him up.

You can stop living in the past any day now.

Get these two hot takers a room.  Though it is kind of cute Sultan, how you immediately come to the rescue of young Wades and try to bail him out of his frequently horrendous hot takes.

The relevance of bringing up Wades failed Wojo hot takes, is that he's the biggest MOPE on this board regarding our current team/Coach.  So, it should ultimately be comforting to MU fans to know he's the same clown who thought Wojo was the goods and was professing Final Fours under Wojo.

[panda]

Get these two hot takers a room.  Though it is kind of cute Sultan, how you immediately come to the rescue of young Wades and try to bail him out of his frequently horrendous hot takes.

The relevance of bringing up Wades failed Wojo hot takes, is that he's the biggest MOPE on this board regarding our current team/Coach.  So, it should ultimately be comforting to MU fans to know he's the same clown who thought Wojo was the goods and was professing Final Fours under Wojo.

Take the bet coward

[The Sultan]

Get these two hot takers a room.  Though it is kind of cute Sultan, how you immediately come to the rescue of young Wades and try to bail him out of his frequently horrendous hot takes.

The relevance of bringing up Wades failed Wojo hot takes, is that he's the biggest MOPE on this board regarding our current team/Coach.  So, it should ultimately be comforting to MU fans to know he's the same clown who thought Wojo was the goods and was professing Final Fours under Wojo.

Wades is focusing on the current team, and knowing him, will admit his error if they overperform. Instead of focusing on the past, say why you think he is wrong now.

We all have bad takes from the past - you thought John Dawson was a high major PG after he made a few good passes against Grambling.

Take the bet coward

Yeah. That too.

[Elonsmusk]

Take the bet coward

LOL - Yeah.  Another stellar Wades pretzel.  I'm willing to wager the $1k, and "put my money where my mouth is."  I gamble to win (or lose) money, not for charity.  If he's so charitable, and wins the bet, he can send my $1k to the charity of his choice.  If I win, I want his money.  Simple as that.  He won't make the bet.

[Elonsmusk]

Wades is focusing on the current team, and knowing him, will admit his error if they overperform. Instead of focusing on the past, say why you think he is wrong now.

We all have bad takes from the past - you thought John Dawson was a high major PG after he made a few good passes against Grambling.

I thought John Dawson was a good basketball player, yes.  He was also smart enough, yet somewhat shoved out by Wojo, to leave and not play for an idiot of a coach.  But, John did make the G-League and that in and of itself is a testament to having had some ability.

As for the current team/regime - if you can't see that Shaka is light years ahead of Steve Wojo as a coach, intellectually, creatively, and charismatically - I don't know what to tell you.  Wades is President of the MOPE club and we are 5 games into Year 2 of Shaka following his Year 1 where we made the NCAA when no one - other than the most optimistic MU fans - thought we'd make the NCAA .  FFS.

[The Sultan]

Wades is concerned there isn't enough talent on this team.  This has nothing to do with Wojo, and is making no comparisons between Wojo and Shaka.  So that really isn't an effective counter to his initial thesis.

[Elonsmusk]

Wades is concerned there isn't enough talent on this team.  This has nothing to do with Wojo, and is making no comparisons between Wojo and Shaka.  So that really isn't an effective counter to his initial thesis.

Are you Wades Daddy?

It's Year 2 FFS.  Wades seems to like Sean Jones.  Most seem to think Chase Ross has a high ceiling and could be a "dude."  Ben Gold has good potential.  Tyler Kolek and O-Max have been very good additions to the program.  Wojo's guys - Kam, Stevie and Oso have all shown growth.  We don't know enough about Ellis yet.  Joplin is a question mark.  Itjere is a 5-year project.

Shaka's laid out his vision - to build from within and invest in the guys in the program..which means we likely aren't going to be big players in the transfer market.  If there's a hole so far, it is that we likely will be a little thin (literally) in the front court.  But Shaka wants to play fast and we likely won't see many if any big bruisers under Shaka.

[panda]

LOL - Yeah.  Another stellar Wades pretzel.  I'm willing to wager the $1k, and "put my money where my mouth is."  I gamble to win (or lose) money, not for charity.  If he's so charitable, and wins the bet, he can send my $1k to the charity of his choice.  If I win, I want his money.  Simple as that.  He won't make the bet.

The funny thing is, you posted this thinking it makes you look better lol

[The Sultan]

Are you Wades Daddy?

It's Year 2 FFS.  Wades seems to like Sean Jones.  Most seem to think Chase Ross has a high ceiling and could be a "dude."  Ben Gold has good potential.  Tyler Kolek and O-Max have been very good additions to the program.  Wojo's guys - Kam, Stevie and Oso have all shown growth.  We don't know enough about Ellis yet.  Joplin is a question mark.  Itjere is a 5-year project.

Shaka's laid out his vision - to build from within and invest in the guys in the program..which means we likely aren't going to be big players in the transfer market.  If there's a hole so far, it is that we likely will be a little thin (literally) in the front court.  But Shaka wants to play fast and we likely won't see many if any big bruisers under Shaka.

I agree with you.

But bringing up Wojo in defense of your argument only weakens it.

[Elonsmusk]

The funny thing is, you posted this thinking it makes you look better lol

The funny thing is, is most people gamble for recreation and profit/loss - not charity.  But I guess there are guys  like Wades (and maybe you?) who go to casinos and donate all of their winnings to charity. 

[Uncle Rico]

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[panda]

The funny thing is, is most people gamble for recreation and profit/loss - not charity.  But I guess there are guys  like Wades (and maybe you?) who go to casinos and donate all of their winnings to charity.

Yep I love gambling for money. I also like to make wagers with my buddies to prove my points. In that case, I wouldn't care what the terms were if I truly believed in my case.

So as it stands now, you have no belief in your convictions (coward) and you refuse to entertain the idea of charity. Otherwise you look awesome.

[MuggsyB]

Purdue is better than I thought.  I didn't expect their freshmen guards to be that good.  It's mostly Edey because he creates the majority of their opportunities offensively but I have to admit Painter can coach and they're pretty good on the perimeter as well.

[Elonsmusk]

Yep I love gambling for money. I also like to make wagers with my buddies to prove my points. In that case, I wouldn't care what the terms were if I truly believed in my case.

So as it stands now, you have no belief in your convictions (coward) and you refuse to entertain the idea of charity. Otherwise you look awesome.

Cool story.  In that case why don't you be me $1K - you can have Kolek under 35% for the year, I've got the over?  The winner gets the money.  I'm not making this wager to "prove points."  WTAF kind of point is that?

It's absurd for you to interject yourself into this between me and Wades, but even more absurd is to suggest I have no belief in my convictions when I'm willing to make the wager.  There are a lot of dumb arguments on Scoop, but you (and Wades) are making this one, one of the dumbest.