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MU82

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 14, 2023, 01:46:58 AM
They are also 5-3 since Jan. 21 and 8-4 since Jan. 4. And 3 of those 4 were road games against teams currently ranked in the top 20 (2 in the top 10).

Yes, all of what both you and I said are true, including that they just lost to a team that was 2-10 in their conference. Tough to win in the Big 12, and tough to win in most leagues on the road.
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THRILLHO

Quote from: MU82 on February 13, 2023, 11:30:27 PM
#6 Texas lost to Texas Tech, which entered the game 2-10 in the conference.

Texas is 5-4 since Jan. 19
I show them as 5-3 in that period. Did you mean Jan 17? Is there some meaning to that date or just cherry picking to make a point?

MU82

Quote from: THRILLHO on February 14, 2023, 09:59:05 AM
I show them as 5-3 in that period. Did you mean Jan 17? Is there some meaning to that date or just cherry picking to make a point?

Yes, Jan. 17. Thanks for the correction. Management regrets the error.

I just looked back at a stretch and saw they were 5-4. I'm not saying Texas is anything less than a fine team. What I'm saying is that even fine teams lose games -- even against teams that were 2-10 in their conference. Not that anyone would find that to be breaking news.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on February 14, 2023, 10:07:30 AM
Yes, Jan. 17. Thanks for the correction. Management regrets the error.

I just looked back at a stretch and saw they were 5-4. I'm not saying Texas is anything less than a fine team. What I'm saying is that even fine teams lose games -- even against teams that were 2-10 in their conference. Not that anyone would find that to be breaking news.

There are 10 Big 12 teams in KenPom top 30.  Someone has to be losing games in that league
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mumi27

8 of 10, not 10 of 12. B12 like its conference brethren does not adhere to number naming standards

Uncle Rico

Quote from: mumi27 on February 14, 2023, 11:14:12 AM
8 of 10, not 10 of 12. B12 like its conference brethren does not adhere to number naming standards

Whoops
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panda

No shame in losing to Texas Tech on the road. They're a good team playing in a remarkably good conference. The record doesn't reflect their talent level.

MU82

Quote from: panda on February 14, 2023, 01:57:01 PM
No shame in losing to Texas Tech on the road. They're a good team playing in a remarkably good conference. The record doesn't reflect their talent level.

If you were a Texas Tech fan, would you be satisfied with your "good" team? If they actually have a lot of talent but they're 3-10 in conference, wouldn't you be calling for your coach to be fired?

I do agree that the Big 12 is a hell of conference. Houston would be about the 3rd or 4th best team. (By far!)
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panda

Quote from: MU82 on February 14, 2023, 02:04:06 PM
If you were a Texas Tech fan, would you be satisfied with your "good" team? If they actually have a lot of talent but they're 3-10 in conference, wouldn't you be calling for your coach to be fired?

I do agree that the Big 12 is a hell of conference. Houston would be about the 3rd or 4th best team. (By far!)

No I would be disappointed.

However as a neutral with half a brain cell, I can see the talent on their roster as well as the close games they've lost show they're a better team than their conference record indicates. Also as stated before, they have a distinct home court advantage and their fans still bring it despite their struggles this year.

wisblue

Quote from: panda on February 14, 2023, 01:57:01 PM
No shame in losing to Texas Tech on the road. They're a good team playing in a remarkably good conference. The record doesn't reflect their talent level.

I don't follow Texas Tech at all, but there were some comments on the telecast last night that Texas Tech has had some injury problems and is significantly better than their record indicates. Their Ken Pom rating of 63 suggests a team that is at least decent.

MU82

Quote from: panda on February 14, 2023, 02:09:57 PM
No I would be disappointed.

However as a neutral with half a brain cell, I can see the talent on their roster as well as the close games they've lost show they're a better team than their conference record indicates. Also as stated before, they have a distinct home court advantage and their fans still bring it despite their struggles this year.

Thanks for the honest, reasonable answer. I'm a "you are what your record says you are" guy, but your perspective definitely has merit.

It must be difficult being the decent-but-not-quite-good-enough team in a stacked conference.
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panda

Quote from: MU82 on February 14, 2023, 02:20:17 PM
Thanks for the honest, reasonable answer. I'm a "you are what your record says you are" guy, but your perspective definitely has merit.

It must be difficult being the decent-but-not-quite-good-enough team in a stacked conference.

Simple answers for a simple guy.

wadesworld

They lost to Ohio State.  End of discussion.

JWags85

Oklahoma's trouncing of Bama is easily the weirdest upset of the season. Assuming they lose to K St tonight, since beating WVU exactly a month ago, they will have lost 8 of 9.  And the previous 7 losses were by an average of 17 pts.  Mixed in was a 25 pt victory over the #2 team in the country.  Beyond bizarre.  And they did it scoring 93 points.  They scored more than 75 points 1 other time all season.

Uncle Rico

Rutgers about to drop to 0-3 without Mawot Mag, losing tonight to Nebraska in a reverse RAC Attack
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brewcity77

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 14, 2023, 08:51:13 PM
Rutgers about to drop to 0-3 without Mawot Mag, losing tonight to Nebraska in a reverse RAC Attack

Is that a CAR Crash?

mugrad_89

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 14, 2023, 09:11:16 PM
Is that a CAR Crash?

Calling it now - Nebraska's gonna win the Big 10 tournament.  😊

Uncle Rico

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MuggsyB

Juwan Howard doesn't impress me as a coach.

RushmoreAcademy

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 14, 2023, 09:30:52 PM
Juwan Howard doesn't impress me as a coach.

How do you feel about his right hook?

GoldenEagles03

I'm glad Michigan stinks because Howard is a joke, but I'd prefer they win tonight.
VIOLENCE!

DoctorV

Kansas State, currently projected as one of the four 3 seeds ahead of Marquette on bracket matrix, down 13 on the road against the fighting Porter Mosers.
They are the one squad I sort of expect to fall off the top 4 seed lines and fade late in the season.

Would be another good result for Marquette on the night if it holds.

Another 3 seed on bracket matrix will be at FiServ tomorrow facing our warrior golden eagles.

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Brutal offense.  40 seconds left.  Michigan's last FG was at 7:23, Wisconsin's  at 10:47. Yuck!

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#2448
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 14, 2023, 10:03:10 PM
Brutal offense.  40 seconds left.  Michigan's last FG was at 7:23, Wisconsin's  at 10:47. Yuck!
Finally a made FG!
Jett Howard layup with 24 seconds left.

MuggsyB

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 14, 2023, 09:53:00 PM
I'm glad Michigan stinks because Howard is a joke, but I'd prefer they win tonight.

Wisconsin doesn't have a FG  on like 10 mins but in a position to win. 

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