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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5025 on: February 02, 2024, 10:23:28 PM »
Huge win for Butler

Creighton is a wild ass team. Literally rely on 4 guys. They scored 94 of their 98 and still lost.

Butler going to be tough for us on the road. Whew

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5026 on: February 02, 2024, 10:23:29 PM »
Lol unnatural carnal knowledge creighton… also unnatural carnal knowledge butler

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5027 on: February 02, 2024, 10:24:36 PM »
Best case scenario. CU loss…..Butler gets another legit win to lessen our sting.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5028 on: February 02, 2024, 10:26:02 PM »
Best case scenario. CU loss…..Butler gets another legit win to lessen our sting.

Yeah for a moment there Butlers only wins aside from us were Depaul and Gtown.

Now they got Nova and Creighton back to back.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5029 on: February 02, 2024, 10:27:06 PM »
Creighton’s season is over
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5030 on: February 02, 2024, 10:41:57 PM »
Butler should be in if they are anywhere near the bubble. Hard to imagine too many bubble teams would have a better pair of road wins (assuming MU and Creighton stay right around Q1A).

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5031 on: February 02, 2024, 10:47:06 PM »
And like I said yesterday,

Outside of Depaul and Gtown pulling off numerous wins agianst teams 4-9

There is literally no chance that the BE only gets 4 bids. Zero.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5032 on: February 02, 2024, 10:52:10 PM »
Not so sure about the decision to foul with 11 seconds left.

I'm pretty sure it was a terrible decision. Few coaches foul up 3 with that much time left for the exact reason we saw in this instance.

Even the second one almost came back to bite Butler. The Creighton guard who stole the inbounds pass, Farabello, idiotically tried to drive through two Butler defenders and lost the ball rather than throw it out to a teammate who's actually good.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5033 on: February 02, 2024, 10:53:03 PM »
And like I said yesterday,

Outside of Depaul and Gtown pulling off numerous wins agianst teams 4-9

There is literally no chance that the BE only gets 4 bids. Zero.

I think 6 make it for sure. Possibly 7 or even 8 but that would mean we probably lost several more times to middle of the pack teams.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5034 on: February 02, 2024, 11:00:04 PM »
I'm pretty sure it was a terrible decision. Few coaches foul up 3 with that much time left for the exact reason we saw in this instance.

Even the second one almost came back to bite Butler. The Creighton guard who stole the inbounds pass, Farabello, idiotically tried to drive through two Butler defenders and lost the ball rather than throw it out to a teammate who's actually good.

two high major games today. Both teams did it.

Iowa fouled with like 20 seconds left.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5035 on: February 02, 2024, 11:15:02 PM »
Coaching Matta….

Butler had a very good one

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5036 on: February 03, 2024, 06:33:15 AM »
Butler should be in if they are anywhere near the bubble. Hard to imagine too many bubble teams would have a better pair of road wins (assuming MU and Creighton stay right around Q1A).

Definitely in at this point, but bubbly. The Creighton and Marquette wins are excellent, while Texas Tech and Boise have aged well. But metrics are just okay (will be interesting to see resume metrics after the CU win, was a 58.5 avg yesterday) and their record vs Q1-3 is just 8-7. They have 5 Q1 and 3 Q2 games left. They need to be .500 in those and win at DePaul and they should be okay. 5-4 should get them in, but they are only favored in 3 of their remaining 9 per kenpom (DePaul being one).

They control their destiny, but they still have work to do.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5037 on: February 03, 2024, 06:43:23 AM »
I didn't see the game but this is why I stated UCONN had an impressive win over them at Hinkle.  Butler did not shoot quite that well when they beat us (45%) but obviously did last night and scored 80+ vs UCONN.  I guess the D wasn't great but Creighton is a pretty good defensive team.  Butler shot 59% from three and hit 13-22. The fact that they nearly lost with that stat line is incredible.   I wouldn't expect them to have a game like that the rest of the season and I think it's good that it happened last night all things considered. 
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5038 on: February 03, 2024, 07:05:08 AM »
In conference play at the half way mark, MU has the best defense and the fifth best offense in conference.  The offense was languishing near the bottom earlyi until this recent run. Build the moment for March.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5039 on: February 03, 2024, 07:22:00 AM »
In conference play at the half way mark, MU has the best defense and the fifth best offense in conference.  The offense was languishing near the bottom earlyi until this recent run. Build the moment for March.

Who woulda thunk it

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5040 on: February 03, 2024, 09:14:24 AM »
Definitely in at this point, but bubbly. The Creighton and Marquette wins are excellent, while Texas Tech and Boise have aged well. But metrics are just okay (will be interesting to see resume metrics after the CU win, was a 58.5 avg yesterday) and their record vs Q1-3 is just 8-7. They have 5 Q1 and 3 Q2 games left. They need to be .500 in those and win at DePaul and they should be okay. 5-4 should get them in, but they are only favored in 3 of their remaining 9 per kenpom (DePaul being one).

They control their destiny, but they still have work to do.

Neither team played great defense and the pressure took its toll on both teams as they both blew inbound plays in the last 8 seconds. Give props to the Bulldogs as they beat a very good Creighton team without Posh Alexander.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5041 on: February 03, 2024, 09:19:46 AM »
two high major games today. Both teams did it.

Iowa fouled with like 20 seconds left.

I don't have evidence, but I'd posit that the majority of coaches don't foul up 3 with 10+ seconds on the clock. Too many bad things can happen. Maybe the exception would be if you had a chance to foul a real bad FT shooter?

Most coaches like 5 seconds or less to be on the clock, and of course some coaches (such as Calipari) usually don't foul up 3.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5042 on: February 03, 2024, 09:27:07 AM »
Who woulda thunk it

Lots of us woulda thunk it. Lots of us - I can think of Goose, tower, TAMU, Ners, myself and others - said that missing wide-open 3s was the root of MU's offensive woes. We also said that while MU isn't a great 3-point shooting team, our guys weren't THAT bad - and a reversion to the mean could happen. So it's hardly surprising that there's been a reversion to the mean; nor is it surprising that hitting wide-open 3s has contributed strongly to the offense improving.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5043 on: February 03, 2024, 09:44:51 AM »
I don't have evidence, but I'd posit that the majority of coaches don't foul up 3 with 10+ seconds on the clock. Too many bad things can happen. Maybe the exception would be if you had a chance to foul a real bad FT shooter?

Most coaches like 5 seconds or less to be on the clock, and of course some coaches (such as Calipari) usually don't foul up 3.

Could depend on situations too.

While Ohio State is also good at the line. Iowa is best in the conference and OSU had 1 and 1s coming. So Fran may have liked his odds just winning that battle.

And on the second and 3rd times Iowa did foul. OSU made the moronic mistake to inbound to one of their worst overall players and a 64% free throw shooter.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5044 on: February 03, 2024, 11:03:36 AM »
No Karaban today for UCONN. 

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5045 on: February 03, 2024, 11:09:26 AM »
I don't mind recycling a joke.

SJU managed to dodge Karaban.   The game will still be a challenger.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5046 on: February 03, 2024, 11:14:26 AM »
Karaban or not

If SJU is gonna just launch out of rhythm off balance 3s and have the goofy skinny white guy try to split defenders all game, they are gonna get waxed same way as X did.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5047 on: February 03, 2024, 11:29:08 AM »
Karaban or not

If SJU is gonna just launch out of rhythm off balance 3s and have the goofy skinny white guy try to split defenders all game, they are gonna get waxed same way as X did.

It's still a little early but St.J bricking FT's doesn't help. 

Pitino refusing to call a time out

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5048 on: February 03, 2024, 11:33:16 AM »
SJU got back into it with better offense. Uconn isnt scoring when SJU D is set.

Jenkins chucks one and newton gets a fastbreak layup to stop a FG drought.

Pitino time out right away to let em know. SJU can win this game if they stop forcing their D into bad spots.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #5049 on: February 03, 2024, 11:42:26 AM »
Two on Clingan is huge. Hes swallowing up Soriano
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