Big East 2024 Offseason

[muwarrior69]

Without the home loss to Butler, nobody would have blinked.    Road losses to decent teams that play well at home are essentially shrugged off as the price of doing business.    Losing at home to Butler made all of the naysayers sit up and start sniffing.

Maybe so, but that St John's win could have just as well went the other way. We nearly blew a 13 point lead and failed to score in the last 4 minutes. That could have been a pretty ugly loss to just essentially shrug off; as it was, it was a pretty ugly first road win. That win however got us over the hump.

[tower912]

So, MU won on the road in conference.  Once upon a time it was understood that conference road wins were worth their weight in gold.   Style points no matta.   What ifs no matta.   Any conference road win is perfect.

[MDMU04]

So, MU won on the road in conference.  Once upon a time it was understood that conference road wins were worth their weight in gold.   Style points no matta.   What ifs no matta.   Any conference road win is perfect.

100%. It ain’t a beauty contest.

[MU82]

Maybe so, but that St John's win could have just as well went the other way.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Kind of depends on how the “bubble” teams of StJ, Providence, SH, X, Butler do against UConn, Creighton, and Marquette.

Many have 6-7 Q1 games left, most against the 3 front runners. They will also canibalize each other some.

So, I know conference record no matta, but a .500 or sub .500 BE team is gonna have a heckuva time getting in, especially in a season with pretty much 4 guaranteed wins.

It’ll work itself out, and the team(s) that beats those top 3 will slide in, but plenty of work to do for them all, even StJ.

5 is way more likely than 4, but I’d be willing to bet that the 5th is a first 4 squad.

If I had to handicap right now I’d say SH gets in and StJ is in the play in game.
X, Providence, Nova and Butler will have a lot to say in it though.

Should be pretty exciting to watch, a nice conference battle for the end of the season.

St Johns is currently projected as an 8 seed. Seton Hall is currently projected as a play in game. St. Johns has also been playing better in conference efficiency wise. I think you have those two backwards.

Right now Providence is the last team in a X and Butler are out on bracket matrix. Without Hopkins, it'll be hard for PC to stay in.  I also think Hall is fraudy and will drop off too. I think theres a reasonable path to the BEast only having 4 bids... but the Johnnies will be one of those four.

[Herman Cain]

Looking forward to a Fun Friday Night Fight featuring The Bulldogs at The  Blue Jays

[DoctorV]

St Johns is currently projected as an 8 seed. Seton Hall is currently projected as a play in game. St. Johns has also been playing better in conference efficiency wise. I think you have those two backwards.

Right now Providence is the last team in a X and Butler are out on bracket matrix. Without Hopkins, it'll be hard for PC to stay in.  I also think Hall is fraudy and will drop off too. I think theres a reasonable path to the BEast only having 4 bids... but the Johnnies will be one of those four.

Yes, right now.

I know what it currently is, I pay attention to it all.

That doesn’t mean it’s what it’ll be in 3-4 weeks.

Everyone had Villanova as the 4th best team and a near tourney lock 3 weeks ago, and I said immediately after the MU game that their coach is putrid- which many of us knew- and that they would go on a massive slide and miss the dance.
3 weeks later they are projected out. Doesn’t mean they won’t right the ship, but I don’t see it, and they are likely one of the most talented of the “bunch” of others.

I said before the X game that it was a trap game and StJ was looking at a possible slide with a weak resume left on the table once/if it comes.
Now, they get a ton more respect because of Rick alone, and they may just beat UConn tomorrow and end most/all doubt, but I don’t like the way it shapes up for them with UConn, MU, Providence, SH, Creighton coming up outside of the bottom feeders.

If anything, having the bottom feeders 4x is also a detriment because of a possible slip up.

SH already has wins over UConn and Marquette in the bag and what I consider an easier road ahead.

We will see what happens, but Rick should consider winning tomorrow or next Saturday because the road will start to get tougher than it previously looked to be

[PGsHeroes32]

Shoot out in Omaha so far

[Herman Cain]

Shoot out in Omaha so far

Very entertaining game . Dunk by Scheireman ,using non dominant hand in traffic ,was impressive

[Daniel]

Very entertaining game . Dunk by Scheireman ,using non dominant hand in traffic ,was impressive

No defense. High scoring game but Butler looking very strong

[mugrad_89]

No defense. High scoring game but Butler looking very strong

Definitely a defense-optional game.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

We rooting for Butler here? That’s where I’m at.

[CountryRoads]

We rooting for Butler here? That’s where I’m at.

Would like to see Butler pull it out. Would be nice to be in sole possession of second. Also better for the BE to get Butler on the right side of the bubble.

[MUDPT]

He can certainly return but the risk of dislocation and further damage to the joint space increases significantly.

No it doesn't.

[PGsHeroes32]

We rooting for Butler here? That’s where I’m at.

Yup. Give us clear leg up on Creighton for time being.

And as bad as our Butler loss was, this should almost certainly keep that loss from falling to Q3 barring a major collapse now.

[PGsHeroes32]

Jeez Butler

Miss the front end. Give up open 3. Dont get rebound. Give up another open 3. Miss rebound and let it go out of bounds.

Creighton will have a 3rd chance to try and tie it, 11 seconds left.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Not so sure about the decision to foul with 11 seconds left.

[PGsHeroes32]

Now up 1. Butler turns it over on the inbound unreal.

Davis is right "why bounce it"

[PGsHeroes32]

Annnnnnnnnnd now Creighton turns it over trying to inbound it

[Daniel]

Annnnnnnnnnd now Creighton turns it over trying to inbound it

Kalk basicxaky rips the butler players eye out and no flagrant

[PGsHeroes32]

This ending is on acid

[Daniel]

This ending is on acid

How is this Creighton ball??    Matta call  to foul too early twice

[PGsHeroes32]

Huge win for Butler

Creighton is a wild ass team. Literally rely on 4 guys. They scored 94 of their 98 and still lost.

[mugrad_89]

Major major props to Butler - what an effort.

[Herman Cain]

Coaching Matta….

Butler had a very good one