Big East 2024 Offseason

[StillAWarrior]

FWIW, Chase was bringing his arm overhead to make the X for the "kill" sign on Saturday.  I think he's back within a couple of weeks, possible NMD?

In his presser Shaka said that Chase is cleared for everything but contact. Said he's doing shooting drills, dunking, and "everything you'd do in basketball outside of contact."

[tower912]

I am of the opinion that he may see contact today in order to have him available tomorrow.

[Galway Eagle]

In his presser Shaka said that Chase is cleared for everything but contact. Said he's doing shooting drills, dunking, and "everything you'd do in basketball outside of contact."

Aka he could play in the ACC right now but not in the Big East

[Shooter McGavin]

Can a conference meet with refs before the season and lay out how they want games called?  Big East fans always say  “the Big East is the toughest league”, Big Ten fans do the same, etc.  Any of this based in fact by direction of the league office on how games are called?  I wouldn’t think so.  But just curious what others think or perceive to be true.

[wisblue]

Can a conference meet with refs before the season and lay out how they want games called?  Big East fans always say  “the Big East is the toughest league”, Big Ten fans do the same, etc.  Any of this based in fact by direction of the league office on how games are called?  I wouldn’t think so.  But just curious what others think or perceive to be true.

I have had this debate with Dodds. He would often complain about how “Big East refs” call games.

Of course, there is no such thing as “Big East refs” as those officials are independent contractors who work games in multiple leagues. It isn’t unusual to see a referee working a game in one conference one night and a game in another conference the next night.

IMHO refereeing is hard enough as it is without expecting  officials to apply a different set of standards based on what conference they are in.

Does anyone know if this actually happens, or if it’s in the imagination of fans. Dodds insists that the leagues do provide officials with different points of emphasis that causes them to call things differently from one league to the next.

One thing for sure based on various message boards that I have followed over the years. Fans of all teams think the refs in their conference are the worst and that their favorite teams get the short end more often than not.

 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I am about 99% sure that the reason for any differentiation in how games are called in the BE, if there is any differentiation at all, is mostly due to style of play.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I have had this debate with Dodds. He would often complain about how “Big East refs” call games.

Of course, there is no such thing as “Big East refs” as those officials are independent contractors who work games in multiple leagues. It isn’t unusual to see a referee working a game in one conference one night and a game in another conference the next night.

IMHO refereeing is hard enough as it is without expecting  officials to apply a different set of standards based on what conference they are in.

Does anyone know if this actually happens, or if it’s in the imagination of fans. Dodds insists that the leagues do provide officials with different points of emphasis that causes them to call things differently from one league to the next.

One thing for sure based on various message boards that I have followed over the years. Fans of all teams think the refs in their conference are the worst and that their favorite teams get the short end more often than not.

The biggest issue I see with how the Big East is generally officiated is that once the less than elite teams get into the tourney, the more physical teams seem to struggle to advance as games get officiated much tighter.  Of course some leagues have a good amount of overlap on refs - see big east refs doing Big Ten games the next night, etc.  But those refs rarely get the big east in tourney games.

[Shooter McGavin]

I have had this debate with Dodds. He would often complain about how “Big East refs” call games.

Of course, there is no such thing as “Big East refs” as those officials are independent contractors who work games in multiple leagues. It isn’t unusual to see a referee working a game in one conference one night and a game in another conference the next night.

IMHO refereeing is hard enough as it is without expecting  officials to apply a different set of standards based on what conference they are in.

Does anyone know if this actually happens, or if it’s in the imagination of fans. Dodds insists that the leagues do provide officials with different points of emphasis that causes them to call things differently from one league to the next.

One thing for sure based on various message boards that I have followed over the years. Fans of all teams think the refs in their conference are the worst and that their favorite teams get the short end more often than not.

I agree that it is highly unlikely and probably too complicated to emphasize specific points to the various crossover referees.  But maybe a general “let them play, only call the obvious fouls” directive?  Probably not, but again I’d like other’s thoughts and appreciate yours Wisblue.

[MU82]

Really, my only complaint is that sometimes a game is called one way for the first half or first 30 minutes, and then all of a sudden it's called completely differently down the stretch.

[wisblue]

Really, my only complaint is that sometimes a game is called one way for the first half or first 30 minutes, and then all of a sudden it's called completely differently down the stretch.

Maybe the refs get a call from the league office at halftime telling them to crack down.

[muwarrior69]

We'll see if Villanova makes any adjustments tomorrow or if Neptune continues to coach like Uranus.

https://nypost.com/2024/01/29/sports/kyle-neptune-lacks-answers-as-losses-threaten-to-derail-villanova/

[panda]

FWIW, Chase was bringing his arm overhead to make the X for the "kill" sign on Saturday.  I think he's back within a couple of weeks, possible NMD?

He can certainly return but the risk of dislocation and further damage to the joint space increases significantly.

[panda]

He told me I had to buy more herbalife.

lol sounds about right

[panda]

I have had this debate with Dodds. He would often complain about how “Big East refs” call games.

Of course, there is no such thing as “Big East refs” as those officials are independent contractors who work games in multiple leagues. It isn’t unusual to see a referee working a game in one conference one night and a game in another conference the next night.

IMHO refereeing is hard enough as it is without expecting  officials to apply a different set of standards based on what conference they are in.

Does anyone know if this actually happens, or if it’s in the imagination of fans. Dodds insists that the leagues do provide officials with different points of emphasis that causes them to call things differently from one league to the next.

One thing for sure based on various message boards that I have followed over the years. Fans of all teams think the refs in their conference are the worst and that their favorite teams get the short end more often than not.

It’s easier for refs to work a certain geographical area because they’re paying their way around the region. So in that case, we see the same guys often. But no, there are no specific referees for each conference.

[The Equalizer]

I have had this debate with Dodds. He would often complain about how “Big East refs” call games.

Of course, there is no such thing as “Big East refs” as those officials are independent contractors who work games in multiple leagues. It isn’t unusual to see a referee working a game in one conference one night and a game in another conference the next night.

IMHO refereeing is hard enough as it is without expecting  officials to apply a different set of standards based on what conference they are in.

Does anyone know if this actually happens, or if it’s in the imagination of fans. Dodds insists that the leagues do provide officials with different points of emphasis that causes them to call things differently from one league to the next.

One thing for sure based on various message boards that I have followed over the years. Fans of all teams think the refs in their conference are the worst and that their favorite teams get the short end more often than not.

There actually is such a thing as "Big East Refs".  The conference has operated its own bureau of officials since 1983. They're listed in the media guide (this one from 22-23).  Turn to page 26:
https://www.bigeast.com/documents/2022/10/17/2022_23_Media_Guide.pdf

And I strongly suspect that John Cahill, the Big East's supervisor of officials, provides guidance on what the league expects from their refs.
https://www.bigeast.com/staff.aspx?staff=22

That's not to say that refs don't often work for multiple conferences. 

[DFW HOYA]

There actually is such a thing as "Big East Refs".  The conference has operated its own bureau of officials since 1983. They're listed in the media guide (this one from 22-23).  Turn to page 26:
https://www.bigeast.com/documents/2022/10/17/2022_23_Media_Guide.pdf

There were Big East refs even before that: Hank Nichols, Tim Higgins, Jim Burr, Dick Paparo, and Larry Lembo, some of which had various ties to the other schools as parents or former staff.

[Dr. Blackheart]

The Big East and ACC have had a basketball officials alliance with a number of smaller conferences since 2016.

[PGsHeroes32]

You are forgetting Chase

Bump

[DFW HOYA]

DePaul gets its opening basket of tonight's home game with Seton Hall... at the 12:59 mark of the 1st half.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Shaka said yesterday he hasn't been cleared for contact. Next step is getting cleared for contact and when he does they will get him practicing and see how that goes. Sounds like we are a couple weeks away yet based on those words.

Thanks, doctor.

[Mu8891]

Duh Paul down 43 to 20 in front of
200 people.

Great seats available in 2d row, mid Ct

[GoldenEagles03]

Thanks, doctor.

Glad to be wrong. There is nothing people in here like more than telling someone they were wrong lol.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Glad to be wrong. There is nothing people in here like more than telling someone they were wrong lol.

Yeah, it’s super fun when someone makes a confident statement that doesn’t make much sense.

[We R Final Four]

Like….maybe we will see Al tonight…..still nope.

[GoldenEagles03]

Yeah, it’s super fun when someone makes a confident statement that doesn’t make much sense.

"Sounds like" and "maybe" far from guarantees. Chase is back, we are all happy. At least I am!