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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4650 on: January 18, 2024, 11:00:45 AM »
I think Chris Mack is enjoying that buyout life but that's the type of guy I'd go after if I were Peevy. I don't think you can gamble on a hot assistant who has never sat in the big chair.

Realistically a guy like Wardle is probably who they get. Looking for the power conference gig after being at a mid major. Maybe the guy at Indiana State.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4651 on: January 18, 2024, 11:14:30 AM »
This place is gonna be rough after our L at WinTrust aina

If there was ever a game for this board to rightfully be on fire........it would be following that
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4652 on: January 18, 2024, 01:12:39 PM »
Ok, so no one is confusing Tony Stubblefield with Jay Wright, but there's a larger issue there.

Six coaches have led the Blue Demons since Joey Meyer was forced out: Pat Kennedy, Dave Leitao, Jerry Wainwright, Tracy Webster, Oliver Purnell, and Tony Stubblefield. None succeeded. DePaul left the cavernous arena in Rosemont for a 10,000 seat arena built largely for them: it's not working. Yes, DePaul athletics were run as a family business by Jean Lenti Ponsetto for too long, but DeWayne Peevy has been AD for four years. And it's still not working.

At some point, someone in that university's administration has to look in a mirror and ask what institutional impediments prevent DePaul basketball from being competitive.


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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4653 on: January 18, 2024, 01:26:05 PM »
Ok, so no one is confusing Tony Stubblefield with Jay Wright, but there's a larger issue there.

Six coaches have led the Blue Demons since Joey Meyer was forced out: Pat Kennedy, Dave Leitao, Jerry Wainwright, Tracy Webster, Oliver Purnell, and Tony Stubblefield. None succeeded. DePaul left the cavernous arena in Rosemont for a 10,000 seat arena built largely for them: it's not working. Yes, DePaul athletics were run as a family business by Jean Lenti Ponsetto for too long, but DeWayne Peevy has been AD for four years. And it's still not working.

At some point, someone in that university's administration has to look in a mirror and ask what institutional impediments prevent DePaul basketball from being competitive.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4654 on: January 18, 2024, 01:37:32 PM »
I think Chris Mack is enjoying that buyout life but that's the type of guy I'd go after if I were Peevy. I don't think you can gamble on a hot assistant who has never sat in the big chair.

Realistically a guy like Wardle is probably who they get. Looking for the power conference gig after being at a mid major. Maybe the guy at Indiana State.

Mack would be amazing for them if they are willing to fork over the dough. Would be exactly like Buzz going to VA Tech 😉

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4655 on: January 18, 2024, 01:38:05 PM »
This place is gonna be rough after our L at WinTrust aina

I have to admit, it would be pretty damn funny

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4656 on: January 18, 2024, 01:41:44 PM »
This place is gonna be rough after our L at WinTrust aina

The L stop is about 2 blocks away. Not too rough.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4657 on: January 18, 2024, 02:13:53 PM »
Ok, so no one is confusing Tony Stubblefield with Jay Wright, but there's a larger issue there.

Six coaches have led the Blue Demons since Joey Meyer was forced out: Pat Kennedy, Dave Leitao, Jerry Wainwright, Tracy Webster, Oliver Purnell, and Tony Stubblefield. None succeeded. DePaul left the cavernous arena in Rosemont for a 10,000 seat arena built largely for them: it's not working. Yes, DePaul athletics were run as a family business by Jean Lenti Ponsetto for too long, but DeWayne Peevy has been AD for four years. And it's still not working.

At some point, someone in that university's administration has to look in a mirror and ask what institutional impediments prevent DePaul basketball from being competitive.
I think if they stuck with Leitao-second term the program would have stayed solidly mediocre ( 6-7 wins in conference and have .500 ish overall season if they schedule mostly cupcakes.   Leitao was at least able to bring in NBA level talent and get some respectable transfers . 

I believe if DePaul sustained mediocrity, they may have been a good enough platform to recruit a real up and comer type coach/ or some one who got fired from a decent program for having a losing season .

Right now they can only get a guy permanent D1 Assistant Stubblefield who will take low pay and gamble , because he literally has nothing to lose.  I don't think those guys work out.

So I think for DePaul they can't change the program over night they need to do it in 6 stages.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4658 on: January 18, 2024, 03:16:59 PM »
Ok, so no one is confusing Tony Stubblefield with Jay Wright, but there's a larger issue there.

Six coaches have led the Blue Demons since Joey Meyer was forced out: Pat Kennedy, Dave Leitao, Jerry Wainwright, Tracy Webster, Oliver Purnell, and Tony Stubblefield. None succeeded. DePaul left the cavernous arena in Rosemont for a 10,000 seat arena built largely for them: it's not working. Yes, DePaul athletics were run as a family business by Jean Lenti Ponsetto for too long, but DeWayne Peevy has been AD for four years. And it's still not working.

At some point, someone in that university's administration has to look in a mirror and ask what institutional impediments prevent DePaul basketball from being competitive.

Pat Kennedy and DL succeeded a little. The former had an NIT and NCAA appearance the later had two NITs and an NCAA appearance... and a CBI runner up which compared to now is an accomplishment for DePaul.

Wainwright, Purnell and Stubs have brought a whole new meaning to the word bad. I don't even remember Tracy webster
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4659 on: January 18, 2024, 03:23:06 PM »
Wainwright, Purnell and Stubs have brought a whole new meaning to the word bad. I don't even remember Tracy webster

Jerry Wainwright was fired mid-season in 2010 with a 7-8 record. Webster took over, and went 1-15.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4660 on: January 18, 2024, 03:40:52 PM »
Jerry Wainwright was fired mid-season in 2010 with a 7-8 record. Webster took over, and went 1-15.

With the one win being...over Marquette.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4661 on: January 18, 2024, 05:20:34 PM »
I was listening to a Chicago radio station this morning. It was recapping last nights games. They led with the Northwestern win over Maryland and then talked about Bradley, UIC, and even Drake. No mention of the Depaul game. They are completely off the radar down here, nobody cares about them. They’ve had multiple decades of ineptitude and irrelevance.  It’s time for them to leave the BE and join any mid-major that will take them.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4662 on: January 18, 2024, 06:00:58 PM »
I was listening to a Chicago radio station this morning. It was recapping last nights games. They led with the Northwestern win over Maryland and then talked about Bradley, UIC, and even Drake. No mention of the Depaul game. They are completely off the radar down here, nobody cares about them. They’ve had multiple decades of ineptitude and irrelevance.  It’s time for them to leave the BE and join any mid-major that will take them.

I've still never read anyone posting an example of a school that has voluntarily left, or even been kicked out of, a major conference for incompetence, ineptitude, irrelevance. Or anything. Can anyone name one?

Without at least one precedent, I just don't see it happening.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4663 on: January 18, 2024, 06:02:57 PM »
Peevy is holding a Zoom Townhall.  Scoopers should call in and ask the questions that need to be asked.

https://clk.depaulbluedemons.com/e/es?s=464899&e=1605&elqTrackId=efd74c1a1b7a40299e524d6e5aa03bea&elq=f6c93a64c4b548dabcdf829b3c08a2ac&elqaid=253&elqat=1

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4664 on: January 18, 2024, 06:07:18 PM »
I've still never read anyone posting an example of a school that has voluntarily left, or even been kicked out of, a major conference for incompetence, ineptitude, irrelevance. Or anything. Can anyone name one?

Without at least one precedent, I just don't see it happening.

They can become precedent.  They're a drain in every way.  If they're just around to collect a check I could see them getting removed for lack of willingness to put a quality product on the floor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/depaul/comments/18d7q7l/depaul_mens_basketball_program_is_a_dumpster_fire/

This was a fun read, btw

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4665 on: January 18, 2024, 06:42:14 PM »
Peevy is holding a Zoom Townhall.  Scoopers should call in and ask the questions that need to be asked.

https://clk.depaulbluedemons.com/e/es?s=464899&e=1605&elqTrackId=efd74c1a1b7a40299e524d6e5aa03bea&elq=f6c93a64c4b548dabcdf829b3c08a2ac&elqaid=253&elqat=1

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4666 on: January 18, 2024, 06:42:52 PM »
Legit embarrassing. WAY past embarrassing. Their fan must be livid. It doesn't take much besides being willing to pay for a coach with a pulse. Stubblefield is in way over his head, no plan, no cohesion, morale in the dumpster. Find a highly successful long time D2 or D3 HC that's had a toe dipped in D1, knows X's & O's, and can coach up lesser guys that are team-focused and at least understand the game. Sell him on this being an underdog opportunity of a lifetime on top of a big raise from his current level. Focus on Indiana 2* & borderline 3* types (for the pedants it doesn't have to be Indiana just a figure of speech), mid-major transfers, build it from the ground up like Butler and Loyola. Or hell a young hungry guy with a couple years' mid major HC experience like Kim English that just took them to the woodshed missing his star player, coming off 4 straight conference losses and treated them like the slump buster they've become. They have to AT LEAST care a little bit at the AD level and up. Stubblefield might be the nicest guy ever. Might be beloved by all as a human being in the building (I have no idea if that's true). Doesn't matter, give him his golden parachute and move on.

I wonder what next Wednesday's crowd will look like. Will MU fans even show up? It's almost like bullying a special ed kid at this point, seems cruel. And 8 p.m. start time, guessing a lot will want to be able to turn it off at half time and go to bed early rather than make the trip downtown to witness a train wreck. I'll be there though! LOL
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4667 on: January 18, 2024, 06:45:32 PM »
They can become precedent.  They're a drain in every way.  If they're just around to collect a check I could see them getting removed for lack of willingness to put a quality product on the floor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/depaul/comments/18d7q7l/depaul_mens_basketball_program_is_a_dumpster_fire/

This was a fun read, btw

^^^exactly, there's a first time for everything. At least make the threat of you don't get the sense that they're doing what needs to be done

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4668 on: January 18, 2024, 06:47:54 PM »
They have a fan?
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« Reply #4669 on: January 18, 2024, 07:03:07 PM »
That has disaster written all over it LOLLLLLLLLL

DeWayne, when will we be joining the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin?

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4670 on: January 18, 2024, 07:16:14 PM »
I've still never read anyone posting an example of a school that has voluntarily left, or even been kicked out of, a major conference for incompetence, ineptitude, irrelevance. Or anything. Can anyone name one?

Temple was escorted out of Big East football in 2004.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/2001/09/07/Temple-to-leave-Big-East-after-2004-season/2657999835200/


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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4671 on: January 18, 2024, 07:24:27 PM »
I feel like MUScoop is more passionate about DePaul basketball than DePaul fans are

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« Reply #4672 on: January 18, 2024, 07:40:02 PM »
I feel like MUScoop is more passionate about DePaul basketball than DePaul fans are
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« Reply #4673 on: January 18, 2024, 08:03:11 PM »
DeWayne, when will we be joining the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin?

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« Reply #4674 on: January 18, 2024, 08:03:30 PM »
I feel like MUScoop is more passionate about DePaul basketball than DePaul fans are

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