Big East 2024 Offseason

[DFW HOYA]

TL;DR.  But I assume it says something to the effect to GTown being inept and unable to make their own decisions without the Thompson family getting involved and/or making them angry.  And now the Ewing supporters being angry.

That's not what it said. Georgetown doesn't make decisions on men's basketball because 1) it's not the institutional priority it once was, and 2) it's not worth the uncertainty of what would follow.

[Newsdreams]

That's not what it said. Georgetown doesn't make decisions on men's basketball because 1) it's not the institutional priority it once was, and 2) it's not worth the uncertainty of what would follow.

Scared???

[Herman Cain]

The Hall getting clawed by Hawkeyes down 12 at half

[Lennys Tap]

Scared???

They’re so afraid of change they’re projecting an elitist, above the fray attitude towards the sport more than a little responsible for their institutional status. If they think that putting out a consistently inferior product (on the court and in the classroom) won’t eventually hurt the entire university they are sadly mistaken.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

They’re so afraid of change they’re projecting an elitist, above the fray attitude towards the sport more than a little responsible for their institutional status. If they think that putting out a consistently inferior product (on the court and in the classroom) won’t eventually hurt the entire university they are sadly mistaken.

I think Georgetown’s reputation in the world of higher education doesn’t have much to do with their on-court performance these days. It’s not 1983 any longer. If anything their reputation has improved as the basketball has slid.

[DFW HOYA]

I think Georgetown’s reputation in the world of higher education doesn’t have much to do with their on-court performance these days. It’s not 1983 any longer. If anything their reputation has improved as the basketball has slid.

Unlike many Big East schools, basketball at Georgetown doesn't drive admissions or fundraising. And because none of the other Big East schools are direct competitors for student enrollment, it leads to less competitive response at the higher levels if other teams do well. Not a lot of kids choose between Creighton and Georgetown.

And while some people assume basketball drove Georgetown's admissions surge, it was in fact a move to need-based, full financial aid in the late 1970's that opened the doors to applicants that couldn't otherwise afford to attend and began to move them up the rankings. Basketball didn't hurt, of course, but it wasn't a causal effect.

If they think that putting out a consistently inferior product (on the court and in the classroom) won’t eventually hurt the entire university they are sadly mistaken.

Georgetown has one win in the NCAA since 2012 and no one is marching on the president's office demanding action. "Winning is a habit," said Vince Lombardi. But he added, "Unfortunately, so is losing."

[Shooter McGavin]

Unlike many Big East schools, basketball at Georgetown doesn't drive admissions or fundraising. And because none of the other Big East schools are direct competitors for student enrollment, it leads to less competitive response at the higher levels if other teams do well. Not a lot of kids choose between Creighton and Georgetown.

And while some people assume basketball drove Georgetown's admissions surge, it was in fact a move to need-based, full financial aid in the late 1970's that opened the doors to applicants that couldn't otherwise afford to attend and began to move them up the rankings. Basketball didn't hurt, of course, but it wasn't a causal effect.

Georgetown has one win in the NCAA since 2012 and no one is marching on the president's office demanding action. "Winning is a habit," said Vince Lombardi. But he added, "Unfortunately, so is losing."

Is there such a lack of interest at Georgetown  among fans and administrators that they would consider dropping down to D2? 

[Scoop Snoop]

Is there such a lack of interest at Georgetown  among fans and administrators that they would consider dropping down to D2?

I do not see that. And I doubt that they are worried even a little bit that the BE would boot them out. It's too valuable of a market. Having DePaul as a perennial cellar dweller was bad enough but just about all conferences have one. Two teams in a last place battle drags the BE down a bit. What they also have in common is both are in major markets.

[Herman Cain]

Shaheen took blame for The Hall loss to Iowa.

https://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2022/11/17/seton-hall-basketball-gets-reality-check-from-iowa-red-hot-murray/69648807007/

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

So we are relying solely on DePaul to uphold the honor of our conference.

[Newsdreams]

So we are relying solely on DePaul to uphold the honor of our conference.

BE is mid major

[Herman Cain]

Big East rolling tonight

Johnnies , Butler , Creighton all kicking butt .

[Newsdreams]

Big East rolling tonight

Johnnies , Butler , Creighton all kicking butt .

You need to rest until April 9th, 2023

[Mr. Nielsen]

With the MTE Tourney's starting up, make sure the top pinned thread with have schedule updates for Big East schools.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63704.msg1481047#msg1481047

[Newsdreams]

With the MTE Tourney's starting up, make sure the top pinned thread with have schedule updates for Big East schools.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63704.msg1481047#msg1481047

Thanks

[Uncle Rico]

Georgetown got outscored 52-24 in the 2nd half in an 84-66 loss to old friend Stan Johnson and LMU.

I’d say it can’t get lower for the Hoyas but I’m not sure of that

[rocky_warrior]

I’d say it can’t get lower for the Hoyas but I’m not sure of that

Agreed.

That's not what it said. Georgetown doesn't make decisions on men's basketball because 1) it's not the institutional priority it once was, and 2) it's not worth the uncertainty of what would follow.

That's just silly.  Uncertainty?  A meth'd out bum off the streets in DC could probably get more wins than Ewing at this point..

[Johnny B]

Georgetown got outscored 52-24 in the 2nd half in an 84-66 loss to old friend Stan Johnson and LMU.

I’d say it can’t get lower for the Hoyas but I’m not sure of that

they went winless in con last year. the program is dead. rock bottom. cant belive they go from boaderline powerhouse to irellevant crazy bad. yet ewing remains. its a joke.

[GB Warrior]

Ewing is going to be visited by 3 George Thompsons this Christmas

[Herman Cain]

Happy for Stan. Good win for his program .

[Billy Hoyle]

Tough loss for X. Kunkle with a good look for the winner but good rotation D changed the shot just enough.

[Herman Cain]

Tough loss for X tonight against I4

[Billy Hoyle]

Happy for Stan. Good win for his program .

He’s not tearing it up out there. They were picked 9th preseason. And I’m not sure this was a better win than UC-Davis

[nyg]

Tough loss for X. Kunkle with a good look for the winner but good rotation D changed the shot just enough.

Woodson has put together a very tough squad. 

They have Jackson-Davis, a probable first team AA and NPOY candidate, add two quality Division One transfers in Johnson and Kopp (not Div 2, Div 3 or NAIA), get two Top 25 recruits in Reneau and Schifilno, a top 30 recruit in Bates and a top 100 recruit in Geronimo. Plus Thompson who has improved in his years there and Indiana has a formidable team.  Beat a good Xavier team on the road. 

That’s what happens when you recruit well and get a few quality transfers.  Jackson Davis is just a beast and Reneau will be a very good player. 

[MuggsyB]

Nova is not Nova anymore.  Wright is an enormous loss.