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Quote from: Silkk the Shaka on January 04, 2024, 10:57:05 AM
What's the worst any Big East team has finished in RPI or NET? DePaul approaching 300 is despicable

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Herman Cain

#876
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 4 , 2024
New Old
9   9   UConn   
10   10   Marquette   
13   13   Creighton   
29   30   Villanova   
45   46   St. John's
57   59   Xavier   
61   62   Providence   
62   63   Butler
79   77   Seton Hall   
208   210   Georgetown   
281   282   DePaul   
January 5 Team Sheets . MU is 10
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

BM1090

Quote from: wadesworld on January 04, 2024, 11:06:06 AM
Hoping we knock SH down to comfortably Q2 Saturday.

Or beat them by 1 and they move up to Q1!

Silkk the Shaka

Did some research using Kenpom's data... this DePaul team is indeed the worst-ranked computer team in the history of the Big East back to 1999, only rivaling 2001 Virginia Tech and Ewing's Georgetown swan song last year.

Even worse than their own epic stretch of futility from 2009-2011 when they won a combined *TWO* conference games over a span of three seasons.

They need another complete overhaul. Stubbs so very clearly ain't it (as if the mic'd up huddles on FS1 weren't evidence enough). They are embarrassing the conference even worse than usual. At least Georgetown made a huge move hiring Cooley so they have hope after the last two years. Val Ackerman needs to step in if Peevey doesn't. With the portal and NIL, major conference teams that are serious about men's hoops should be able to make a turnaround to be at the very least competitive in relatively short order. Despicable!



Season   Team   Rank   W
2024   DP     243   ?
2023   GT     219   2
2022   GT     175   0
2021   DP     141   2
2020   DP     94   3
2019   DP     118   7
2018   DP     99   4
2017   DP     183   2
2016   SJ     211   1
2015   DP     150   6
2014   DP     183   3
2013   DP     174   2
2012   DP     150   3
2011   DP     197   1
2010   DP     170   1
2009   DP     206   0
2008   RG     183   3
2007   RG     208   3
2006   SF    171   1
2005   RG     141   2
2004   SJ     200   1
2003   VT     141   4
2002   WV    192   1
2001   VT     234   2
2000   PV     162   4
1999   BC     181   3

The Sultan

De Paul is a dumpster fire, but I doubt the Big East is in anyway embarrassed by them. They're just highly irrelevant.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Galway Eagle

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 05, 2024, 12:35:17 PM
De Paul is a dumpster fire, but I doubt the Big East is in anyway embarrassed by them. They're just highly irrelevant.

It'd be very interesting to be a fly on a wall during meetings. Do you think any of the other ADs take Peevy seriously on basketball stuff? I mean it'd be hard to even justify having an opinion.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

The Sultan

I think conference meetings are almost entirely about business.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Not sure what some folks expect the Big East - or Val Ackerman - to do about DePaul.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Its DJOver

DePaul has been awful for a while and the conference has been fine.  I feel confident that the conference will continue to be fine if DePaul continues to be awful.  Every conference has their bottom dweller.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MU82 on January 05, 2024, 12:59:42 PM
Not sure what some folks expect the Big East - or Val Ackerman - to do about DePaul.

I half seriously suggested a buyout, but I think Sultan's reply was that he did not see any way that would be make $ sense. I guess as the concept of the NBE was forming, we needed even a team like DP to start with 7 before adding 3 more.

They're not going away and realistically? The rest of the BE is stuck with them. I have mixed feelings about expansion, but if that happens....DP's alleged "bball program" would be diluted as a drag on the BE.
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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 05, 2024, 12:43:07 PM
I think conference meetings are almost entirely about business.

Wouldn't the Chicago market potentially caring even a little bit about Big East basketball be good for business?

IrwinFletcher

Has there ever been an instance where a conference kicks a school out due to poor performance of a program?  I sure can't think of one.

Any my guess is that the other 10 coaches don't mind DePaul on their schedule twice a season.  Gives you a chance to play others down the roster and work on some things.

tower912

English premier league relegation model with the A-10.   The problem with that is the Big East ends up trading DePaul and Georgetown for Dayton and St. Louis
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on January 05, 2024, 01:26:34 PM
Has there ever been an instance where a conference kicks a school out due to poor performance of a program?  I sure can't think of one.

Any my guess is that the other 10 coaches don't mind DePaul on their schedule twice a season.  Gives you a chance to play others down the roster and work on some things.

We did. The Big East is the only conference to kick a team out in my lifetime. The BEast kicked out Temple (football only member) in 2004. The only other example I know of is Marshall getting kicked out of the MAC for recruiting violations.  Only reason i know that one it's because the plane crash happened the following season
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Herman Cain

#889
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 5, 2024
New Old
7   9   UConn   
10   10   Marquette   
13   13   Creighton   
29   29   Villanova   
45   45   St. John's
57   57   Xavier   
61   61   Providence   
67   62   Butler   
79   79   Seton Hall   
204   208   Georgetown   
281   281   DePaul   
Janauary 5 Team Sheets . MU is 10
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

#890
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 6, 2024
New Old
7   7   UConn   
14   13   Creighton   
16   10   Marquette   
31   45   St. John's
32   29   Villanova   
53   57   Xavier   
57   61   Providence   
63   67   Butler   
73   79   Seton Hall   
211   204   Georgetown   
286   281   DePaul   
January  7 Team Sheets. MU is 16
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

GoldenEagles03

#891
All the panic after last night and the 1st bracketology I see while scrolling Twitter still has Marquette as the Top 3 seed.

Purdue- 1 seed
Kansas- 1 seed
UConn- 2 seed
UW-Madison- 2 seed
Creighton- 5 seed
Illinois- 5 seed
Nova- 7 seed
St. Johns- 8 seed
Providence- 10 seed
Seton Hall- 12 seed play in
VIOLENCE!

brewcity77

That's not Twitter, that's NKY Bracketology. General consensus is still in the 7-9 overall seed range.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 07, 2024, 07:17:20 PM
That's not Twitter, that's NKY Bracketology. General consensus is still in the 7-9 overall seed range.

If you reread carefully, I said first bracketology I saw while scrolling Twitter.
VIOLENCE!

Herman Cain

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 7, 2024
New Old
7   7   UConn   
14   14   Creighton   
16   16   Marquette   
33   31   St. John's
34   32   Villanova   
52   53   Xavier   
57   57   Providence   
63   63   Butler   
73   73   Seton Hall   
213   211   Georgetown   
287   286   DePaul   
January 8 Team Sheets. MU is 16
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Big East Poll Rankings January 8, 2024
AP
4. U Conn
11. MU
22. Creighton
Others Receiving Votes
The Hall, Johnnies, Providence
Coaches
4. U Conn
12. MU
20. Creighton
Others Receiving Votes
The Hall, Johnnies , Providence , Nova
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 8, 2024
New Old
8   7   UConn   
14   14   Creighton   
16   16   Marquette   
33   34   Villanova   
34   33   St. John's
52   52   Xavier   
56   57   Providence   
63   63   Butler
73   73   Seton Hall   
212   213   Georgetown
286   287   DePaul   
January 9 Team Sheets. MU is 16
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 9, 2024
New Old
8   8   UConn   
14   14   Creighton   
17   16   Marquette   
32   33   Villanova   
35   34   St. John's
53   52   Xavier   
54   56   Providence   
63   63   Butler   
74   73   Seton Hall   
208   212   Georgetown   
294   286   DePaul
January 10 Team Sheets . MU is 17
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 10, 2024
New Old
8   8   UConn   
15   14   Creighton   
19   17   Marquette   
33   32   Villanova   
34   35   St. John's
48   63   Butler   
54    54     Providence
60   53   Xavier   
75   74   Seton Hall   
204   208   Georgetown   
292   294   DePaul   
January 11 Team Sheets. MU is 19
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MarquetteMike1977

Quote from: Herman Cain on January 11, 2024, 09:31:12 AM
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 10, 2024
New Old
8   8   UConn   
15   14   Creighton   
19   17   Marquette   
33   32   Villanova   
34   35   St. John's
48   63   Butler   
54    54     Providence
60   53   Xavier   
75   74   Seton Hall   
204   208   Georgetown   
292   294   DePaul   
January 11 Team Sheets. MU is 19
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
Thank You Herman. Marquette #19 in the NET is not too bad.

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