Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets

[GoldenEagles03]

I break down Wisconsin's resume on Cracked Sidewalks today. Their NET hurts, but they have more Q1 wins & fewer bad losses than anyone on the bubble. I was talking to a number of bracketologists last night and this morning, and it seems the consensus is they are still in, but I lean just out at the moment. Not beating their cupcakes by 40 is taking a toll.

Any chance the committee looks at certain teams like Ohio State for instance and totally disregards them as a Q1 win because they are terrible?

I say that only half jokingly. Them sitting at 11-13 counting as a Q1 win is the real joke.

[Uncle Rico]

Any chance the committee looks at certain teams like Ohio State for instance and totally disregards them as a Q1 win because they are terrible?

I say that only half jokingly. Them sitting at 11-13 counting as a Q1 win is the real joke.

Yes, they take that into consideration

[MuggsyB]

I break down Wisconsin's resume on Cracked Sidewalks today. Their NET hurts, but they have more Q1 wins & fewer bad losses than anyone on the bubble. I was talking to a number of bracketologists last night and this morning, and it seems the consensus is they are still in, but I lean just out at the moment. Not beating their cupcakes by 40 is taking a toll.

Alright, ty Brew.  I assume people will be glued to their tv's when they play Minny. 

[brewcity77]

Alright, ty Brew.  I assume people will be glued to their tv's when they play Minny.

Sure, and those people are called Wisconsin fans.

[mu_eyeballs]

What are the chances Villanova can Crack the to 75?  Conversely X drops out of the top 30?

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of February 12, 2023
New  Old
9   9   UConn   
13   13   Creighton   
15   15   Marquette   
26   26   Xavier   
43   43   Providence
61   60   Seton Hall   
85   85   Villanova   
99   99   St. John's
107   108   Butler   
170   170   DePaul   
232   232   Georgetown   
February 13 Team Sheets . MU is 15
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[Hards Alumni]

Sure, and those people are called Wisconsin fans.

Masochists as well.

[Herman Cain]

Big East Poll Rankings as of February 13, 2023
AP
11. MU
16. X
18. Creighton
20. U Conn
24. Cooley & Company
Coaches
10. MU
16. X
19. Creighton
21. Cooley & Company
23. U Conn

[MarquetteMike1977]

Marquette's NET is 15 Today

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of February 13,2023
New  Old
8   9   UConn   
14   13   Creighton   
15   15   Marquette   
27   26   Xavier
42   43   Providence   
62   61   Seton Hall   
85   85   Villanova   
99   99   St. John's
107   107   Butler   
172   170   DePaul   
231   232   Georgetown
February 14 Team Sheets. MU is 15
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of February 14, 2023
New  Old
8   8   UConn   
14   14   Creighton   
15   15   Marquette   
25   27   Xavier   
41   42   Providence
66   62   Seton Hall   
84   85   Villanova   
98   99   St. John's
111   107   Butler   
173   172   DePaul   
228   231   Georgetown   

February 15 Team Sheets . MU is 15
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[MU82]

Marquette is back up to 11 in kenpom, leapfrogging Creighton, which is now 12. Also, MU's offense ticks up a spot to #3, behind only Baylor and Gonzaga.

[1SE]

Looking at who is in front of us - winning  out w a run to the BET Final should give us a realistic shot at a 2 seed.

63% of 2 seeds make S16 vs 52% of 3s.

Let's get it done.

[goldeneagle91114]

Looking at who is in front of us - winning  out w a run to the BET Final should give us a realistic shot at a 2 seed.

63% of 2 seeds make S16 vs 52% of 3s.

Let's get it done.

I'm excited about the team grinding out a win last night! But, we HAVE to find our offensive rhythm, or we won't be making any type of a run. Last night's shooting numbers are dreadful and again I thought there was too much 1-on-1, especially at the end of the game.

[CTWarrior]

I'm excited about the team grinding out a win last night! But, we HAVE to find our offensive rhythm, or we won't be making any type of a run. Last night's shooting numbers are dreadful and again I thought there was too much 1-on-1, especially at the end of the game.

Probably wrong thread, but I agree, too much standing around and watching one on one, particularly in the first half.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of February 15, 2023
New  Old
8   8   UConn   
13   14   Creighton   
14   15   Marquette   
25   25   Xavier   
41   41   Providence   
65   66   Seton Hall   
83   84   Villanova   
99   98   St. John's
110   111   Butler   
174   173   DePaul   
229   228   Georgetown   
February 16 Team Sheets . MU is 14
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[MuggsyB]

I'm excited about the team grinding out a win last night! But, we HAVE to find our offensive rhythm, or we won't be making any type of a run. Last night's shooting numbers are dreadful and again I thought there was too much 1-on-1, especially at the end of the game.

There's no doubt it's a bit of a concern.  We could have easily been blown out of the gym in the first half  after the first 13 mins.  We were fortunate the lead never swelled.  Mitchell really kept us afloat.  I saw a combination of things when it comes to rhythm and offensive flow:

It was a pretty physical game. Early on we were very hesitant and passive and did not play with the necessary force.  Kam and Jop were thinking too much out there on their wide open triples.  Rise, fire, knock 'em down. 

I thought out footwork was all over the place yesterday off the dribble and we didn't adjust to their deep sagging.  Oso essentially isn't being guarded from the 20-10 foot area.  He has to play with much more force and decisiveness, use his ability to handle and pass, shot fake at the rim, and be stronger with the basketball in general.  He can either take his time backing in and surveying the floor or attack  by changing direction.  He was essentially dribble hand-offing in lieu of being aggressive.

OMAX was completely out of sorts with his footwork as well.  And often playing too fast and out of control.  He must have fallen down 10 times, didn't plant and take the simple 7 footer and didn't move the basketball when help came. We are a much better team when we move the ball. 

Kam had probably his worst game of his career and hesitation and simple overthinking were the main culprits.  I think he'll be fine but he and Shaka need to discuss where he's most effective attacking the paint.  He had a nice dime to Oso but generally took tough shots because he was tight and over penatrated.  Stop, plant, rise, mince the mesh, make everybody happy.   If help comes moves the rock.

Hesitation is death in the NCAA tournament.  When MU plays their game, shares the basketball, and plays with supreme confidence they are an excellent basketball team.  I expect Shaka to have a counter for sagging squads and for us to get our offense back in gear. 

[Shooter McGavin]

Agreed Muggsy.

[StillWarriors]

There's no doubt it's a bit of a concern.  We could have easily been blown out of the gym in the first half  after the first 13 mins.  We were fortunate the lead never swelled.  Mitchell really kept us afloat.  I saw a combination of things when it comes to rhythm and offensive flow:

It was a pretty physical game. Early on we were very hesitant and passive and did not play with the necessary force.  Kam and Jop were thinking too much out there on their wide open triples.  Rise, fire, knock 'em down. 

I thought out footwork was all over the place yesterday off the dribble and we didn't adjust to their deep sagging.  Oso essentially isn't being guarded from the 20-10 foot area.  He has to play with much more force and decisiveness, use his ability to handle and pass, shot fake at the rim, and be stronger with the basketball in general.  He can either take his time backing in and surveying the floor or attack  by changing direction.  He was essentially dribble hand-offing in lieu of being aggressive.

OMAX was completely out of sorts with his footwork as well.  And often playing too fast and out of control.  He must have fallen down 10 times, didn't plant and take the simple 7 footer and didn't move the basketball when help came. We are a much better team when we move the ball. 

Kam had probably his worst game of his career and hesitation and simple overthinking were the main culprits.  I think he'll be fine but he and Shaka need to discuss where he's most effective attacking the paint.  He had a nice dime to Oso but generally took tough shots because he was tight and over penatrated.  Stop, plant, rise, mince the mesh, make everybody happy.   If help comes moves the rock.

Hesitation is death in the NCAA tournament.  When MU plays their game, shares the basketball, and plays with supreme confidence they are an excellent basketball team.  I expect Shaka to have a counter for sagging squads and for us to get our offense back in gear.

Well said. The sagging D off Oso is preventing the slashing and back cuts that we were getting earlier in the year. Oso developing a 15 footer would make a big difference, even though MU avoids the mid-range. It would create space for the cutting to happen. Curious as to why Oso pushes his shots, even from 10 feet, rather than flicking his wrist like a normal shot. Has to be perfect with a pushed knuckleball shot. I have no doubt he will come back a different player in that regard next year.

[JakeBarnes]

There was a lot of "oso with his back to a defender who has sagged 5 feet" last night. There's something to exploit there for sure and I have faith the coaches are going to talk about what that looks like over the week in preparation for Creighton.

[tower912]

Post defenders are taking away Oso's turn to his left shoulder.    So sagging to take away passing lanes and then taking away his left shoulder.  He needs a counter back to his right shoulder.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of February 16, 2023
New Old
8   8   UConn   
13   13   Creighton   
14   14   Marquette   
26   25   Xavier   
40   41   Providence   
67   65   Seton Hall
83   83   Villanova   
98   99   St. John's
111   110   Butler   
175   174   DePaul   
230   229   Georgetown
February 17 Team Sheets. MU is 14
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of February 17, 2023
New  Old
8   8   UConn   
13   13   Creighton   
15   14   Marquette   
26   26   Xavier   
40    40     Providence
68   67   Seton Hall   
83   83   Villanova   
98   98   St. John's
111   111   Butler   
175   175   DePaul   
229   230   Georgetown   
February 18 Team Sheets . MU is 15
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[brewcity77]

I don't expect today's NET changes to impact the Top-16 at all, but MU fell to 15 & saw the Wisconsin loss yoyo from Q2 to Q3.

[Herman Cain]

NCAA tournament's early top 16

South Region

1.Alabama
2.Baylor
3.Virginia
4.Indiana

West Region

1.Kansas
2.Arizona
3.Kansas State
4.Gonzaga

Midwest Region

1.Houston
2.Texas
3.Tennessee
4.Xavier

East Region

1.Purdue
2.UCLA
3.Iowa State
4. Marquette

Ranking of Seeds
1 Alabama
2 Houston
3 Purdue
4 Kansas
5 Texas
6 Arizona
7 Baylor
8 UCLA
9 Tennessee
10 Virginia
11 Iowa State
12 Kansas State
13 Indiana
14 Marquette
15 Gonzaga
16 Xavier