Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets

[StillAWarrior]

Big East Poll Rankings as of December 12, 2022

AP
3.  U Conn

Others Receiving Votes
MU,X, Creighton

Coaches
3. U Conn

Others receiving Votes
MU, Creighton ,X

That's just sad.

Hopefully, we'll get another team in there next week.

[Jay Bee]

Cam Whitmore is a major difference maker.  As he rounds into form, Nova will be a lot better going forward.

In 3 games he has a 122 ORtg on 30% usage; big DR%, high stl%, low TOs, doesn't foul.

First game was bad. Last two amazing. No need to round into form - he's next level right now

[shoothoops]

Mississippi State is 6th in the Net rankings. No team they have played so far, has scored as many points against them as Marquette did. And that number is 55.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of December 12, 2022
New Old
1   1   UConn   
31   30   Marquette   
41   40   Xavier   
50   46   Creighton   
51   51   Butler   
70   70   St. John's
89   89   Seton Hall   
102   103   Providence   
111   112   Villanova   
152   150   DePaul   
244   240   Georgetown   

December 13 Team Sheets . MU is 31
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[TSmith34, Inc.]

In 3 games he has a 122 ORtg on 30% usage; big DR%, high stl%, low TOs, doesn't foul.

First game was bad. Last two amazing. No need to round into form - he's next level right now

I'd be OK with him declaring early and leaving immediately, a la Chones.

[Herman Cain]

Big East East NET rankings as of games of December 13, 2022
New Old
1   1   UConn
33   31   Marquette   
42   41   Xavier   
48   50   Creighton
51   51   Butler
69   70   St. John's
90   89   Seton Hall   
100   102   Providence   
112   111   Villanova   
149   152   DePaul   
245   244   Georgetown   

December 14 Team Sheets. MU is 33 https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[StillAWarrior]

245   244   Georgetown   

This is just sad. I know Ewing is a legend, but how long can Georgetown let this go on? Can the rest of the Big East have an intervention with Lee Reed?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

This is just sad. I know Ewing is a legend, but how long can Georgetown let this go on? Can the rest of the Big East have an intervention with Lee Reed?

Georgetown is currently in its Bob Dukiet phase

[The Lens]

Rick Pitino should be call #1, 2 and 3,

Then I call TJO,

Then Billy Donovan.   

[The Sultan]

Rick Pitino should be call #1, 2 and 3,

Then I call TJO,

Then Billy Donovan.   

Pitino may say yes.  The others would laugh and hang up.

[MU82]

Rick Pitino should be call #1, 2 and 3,

Then I call TJO,

Then Billy Donovan.

As everybody knows, ya gotta at least call Billy Donovan!

[Galway Eagle]

He has a job now... he didn't before...

[muwarrior69]

Hopefully Providence and Nova can get below 100.  Less opportunities for big wins and more opportunities for bad losses this year.  Marquette will have to take care of business with the lower-rated teams.

Just win it is the only stat that counts.

[StillAWarrior]

Georgetown is currently in its Bob Dukiet phase

I get what you're saying, but Marquette only tolerated Dukiet for three years:

• 1986 - 16-13
• 1987 - 10-18
• 1988 - 13-15
• Total: 39-46 (.459)

The Hoyas are into year six of the Ewing debacle:

• 2017 - 15-15 (5-13)
• 2018 - 19-14 (9-9)
• 2019 - 15-17 (5-13)
• 2020 - 13-13 (7-9)
• 2021 - 6-25 (0-19)
• 2022 - 5-6 and counting
• Total: 73-90 (.448) (26-63) (.292)

One could argue that Ewing wishes he had the success that Dukiet had at Marquette.

[MarquetteDano]

I get what you're saying, but Marquette only tolerated Dukiet for three years:

• 1986 - 16-13
• 1987 - 10-18
• 1988 - 13-15
• Total: 39-46 (.459)

They Hoyas are into year six of the Ewing debacle:

• 2017 - 15-15 (5-13)
• 2018 - 19-14 (9-9)
• 2019 - 15-17 (5-13)
• 2020 - 13-13 (7-9)
• 2021 - 6-25 (0-19)
• 2022 - 5-6 and counting
• Total: 73-90 (.448) (26-63) (.292)

One could argue that Ewing wishes he had the success that Dukiet had at Marquette.

Those are some sobering numbers.

[MuggsyB]

Those are some sobering numbers.

Damn straight.  Good freaking grief.

[Galway Eagle]

I get what you're saying, but Marquette only tolerated Dukiet for three years:

• 1986 - 16-13
• 1987 - 10-18
• 1988 - 13-15
• Total: 39-46 (.459)

They Hoyas are into year six of the Ewing debacle:

• 2017 - 15-15 (5-13)
• 2018 - 19-14 (9-9)
• 2019 - 15-17 (5-13)
• 2020 - 13-13 (7-9)
• 2021 - 6-25 (0-19)
• 2022 - 5-6 and counting
• Total: 73-90 (.448) (26-63) (.292)

One could argue that Ewing wishes he had the success that Dukiet had at Marquette.

Good thing they don't need basketball.

[StillAWarrior]

Those are some sobering numbers.

Indeed. Since moving to the Big East in 2005, Marquette has had two losing seasons (13-19 in 2014 and 13-14 in 2020) and four seasons with with a conference record below .500 (4-14 in 2014, 8-10 in 2015, 8-10 in 2019, and 8-11 in 2020). Ewing matched those numbers in his first five years - including last year's total sh*t show. JT3 got fired after posting two consecutive losing seasons. I'm not sure how long Ewing is going to be able to keep cashing those BET Championship checks. If he wasn't a Georgetown legend, he'd surely be out of there by now.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Ewing is a cautionary tale for both hiring famous alumni and putting any stock in tournament runs (after a disappointing regular season).

[Galway Eagle]

Ewing is a cautionary tale for both hiring famous alumni and putting any stock in tournament runs (after a disappointing regular season).

So was Mullin but at least he got them one above average season

[Dr. Blackheart]

Those are some sobering numbers.

7 years to judge

[MU82]

So was Mullin but at least he got them one above average season

He also bowed out gracefully to spare St. John's the angst of firing a favorite son.

[Hards Alumni]

He also bowed out gracefully to spare St. John's the angst of firing a favorite son.

Ewing's pay day won't allow him to do the same.

[The Thing]

I can say that I was at Marquette from 86-90—perhaps some of the darkest years ever for Marquette Basketball. Only three years of Dukiet but it felt much, much longer at the time.

[StillAWarrior]

Ewing is a cautionary tale for both hiring famous alumni and putting any stock in tournament runs (after a disappointing regular season).

Yeah, take out that inexplicable run in the BET and the Hoyas would have been 10-13 in 2020-21 (assuming they played to their seed at the BET and still beat Marquette -- ugh!).