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MuggsyB

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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #375 on: January 24, 2023, 07:55:49 AM »
And this is why I simply cannot understand the scoopers who say they want to see UW lose despite the fact that it may hurt us come Selection Sunday. Every little bit counts. After Selection Sunday? Hell yes, I hope they get embarrassed on the court, assuming they are in the tourney.

Scoop Snoop, 

That unfortunate defeat when they shot out of their asses won't matter.  We control our own destiny. 

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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #376 on: January 24, 2023, 07:58:04 AM »
What we want to know Brew is whether Wisky could be out of the NCAA tournament with their current trajectory?

Scoop has gone from roiling its fingers from Marquette's bubble chances under Wojo to now worrying about Bucky's.  Refreshing as a mountain stream.

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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #377 on: January 24, 2023, 07:59:40 AM »
MU is Waaaay beyond needing the help of UW re: our NET.

I … like most MU fans … want to see
UW lose every game. I hope MD takes them out tomorrow

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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #378 on: January 24, 2023, 08:01:06 AM »
Muggsy


My interest in how UW does is that same level as my interest in how Bradley finishes out the year, which is zero interest level. MU is in control of their destiny and that is all they could ask for going into the season. Get a win at UConn or Creighton and what Bucky does will have little impact on the Warriors.

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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #379 on: January 24, 2023, 08:09:04 AM »
Excuse my ignorance but I don't gamble other than skins with my buddies on occasion.  What exactly are MU's F4 odds right now or Championship odds?  What does +4000 mean?  Ty.

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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #380 on: January 24, 2023, 08:10:42 AM »
Muggsy


My interest in how UW does is that same level as my interest in how Bradley finishes out the year, which is zero interest level. MU is in control of their destiny and that is all they could ask for going into the season. Get a win at UConn or Creighton and what Bucky does will have little impact on the Warriors.

Exactly right Goose.  It only impacts my enjoyment of them losing and the trolls being mia on Scoop. :)

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« Reply #381 on: January 24, 2023, 08:14:17 AM »
Muggsy

If that is accurate, if you bet $100 on MU making the FF you get $4000 if they make it. I did see the odds of MU winning NC has moved from 80-1 to 60-1 over the past ten days.

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« Reply #382 on: January 24, 2023, 08:17:14 AM »
Muggsy

If that is accurate, if you bet $100 on MU making the FF you get $4000 if they make it. I did see the odds of MU winning NC has moved from 80-1 to 60-1 over the past ten days.

My personality isn't suited towards gambling but that seems like a good F4 bet. 

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« Reply #383 on: January 24, 2023, 08:21:22 AM »
Keep in mind peeps that MU is #129 in 3pt percentage and yet have the most efficient offense in the country.  I truly believe we can elevate our accuracy from downtown. 

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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #384 on: January 24, 2023, 08:29:13 AM »
And this is why I simply cannot understand the scoopers who say they want to see UW lose despite the fact that it may hurt us come Selection Sunday. Every little bit counts. After Selection Sunday? Hell yes, I hope they get embarrassed on the court, assuming they are in the tourney.

The Baylor win over Kansas helped the Bears jump from 15 to 13 in NET.  That dropped Virginia to 14 and Marquette to 15.

The Badgers losing by 3, when predicted to lose by 4, had minimal impact.

*Corrected the margin of defeat and predicted margin of defeat.  I originally had them reversed.*
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« Reply #385 on: January 24, 2023, 08:33:47 AM »
I will sacrifice a seed line to see the Badgers crater. Not even a question.
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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #386 on: January 24, 2023, 08:46:20 AM »
My personality isn't suited towards gambling but that seems like a good F4 bet.

Incorrect odds. Marquette is +800 to make the final four.

I.e bet 100 to win 800. Winning the whole tournament is 100 to pay 4000

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« Reply #387 on: January 24, 2023, 08:46:48 AM »
I will sacrifice a seed line to see the Badgers crater. Not even a question.
I's be happy to see them go 0-for the rest of the decade.
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« Reply #388 on: January 24, 2023, 08:49:21 AM »
I's be happy to see them go 0-for the rest of the decade.

Me, too, but the obsession over them here is little brother-ish
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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #389 on: January 24, 2023, 08:51:07 AM »
Their rivals. In general, I root for rivals to lose.
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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #390 on: January 24, 2023, 08:55:24 AM »
I will sacrifice a seed line to see the Badgers crater. Not even a question.

Absolutely. This is consistent with my oft-stated (although unoriginal) position that my two favorite teams are Marquette and whoever is playing Wisconsin.

I suppose I would see it differently if MU was really sweating it out on the bubble in a given year. But if we're talking about a possible difference between a 5/6, 4/5 or 3/4...yeah, I want to see the Badgers get pounded.

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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #391 on: January 24, 2023, 08:58:08 AM »
I will sacrifice a seed line to see the Badgers crater. Not even a question.

Same here. Besides, the Badgers sucking would just be a minuscule factor in dropping MU a seed line anyway. With all of the logistics that go into scheduling the tournament games and seeding the teams, we would never know if that specific game is what dropped MU a seed line (or if they dropped a seed line at all).

Regarding UW, it does bother me how much tournament success they’ve had in the last 10 years versus us and I would definitely love to see that script flipped. Once it has been flipped, then I think I’ll join the others on here and not care much about UW. Just my feelings and I also respect the folks who couldn’t care less about UW.

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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #392 on: January 24, 2023, 09:20:40 AM »
The Baylor win over Kansas helped the Bears jump from 15 to 13 in NET.  That dropped Virginia to 14 and Marquette to 15.

The Badgers losing by 4, when predicted to lose by 3, had minimal impact.

This is the correct answer, the Baylor game had significantly more impact than the UW game.  Further, despite them leapfrogging us with the win, it helps solidify them as a q1a win rather than a q1b win.  The cutoff is 15, had they lost they would have dropped below that threshold and been q1b.
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« Reply #393 on: January 24, 2023, 09:29:27 AM »
The Baylor win over Kansas helped the Bears jump from 15 to 13 in NET.  That dropped Virginia to 14 and Marquette to 15.

The Badgers losing by 4, when predicted to lose by 3, had minimal impact.

Yep. I always cheer for the Badgers to lose by 1. It piles up the Ls for Bucky while having a minimal impact on our computer numbers.
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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #394 on: January 24, 2023, 09:34:15 AM »
Generally speaking, where in the NET rankings do you draw the line for in vs out of the ncaa tournament? 68?


The NET isn't really used that way.   It's a way to sort your resume, not really reflected on your own probability of making it.  Thus, we would use the NET rating of our opponents to sort our own resume for evaluation, but having the NET ranking of 15 itself isn't actually used.  However, that's not to say there is no correlation between the two, since winning/losing and how well you play affect both your resume and your NET.

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Re: Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #395 on: January 24, 2023, 09:38:56 AM »
Incorrect odds. Marquette is +800 to make the final four.

I.e bet 100 to win 800. Winning the whole tournament is 100 to pay 4000

I laid a wager at 150-1 right before the season tipoff, then a few more on 12/17 and 1/7 at 100-1, and then another that I got at 60-1 Sunday night before the odds shifted down to 40-1. 

My site offers to cash you out of bets as their risk level goes up.  They've already offered to double my money on the 150-1 bet made November 2nd.  As MU advances in the tourney the cash out offers will increase substantially.  I'd estimate a run to the Elite 8 would generate an offer of roughly $10k to avoid the $28,850 payout they'd have to make if MU won it all.  The total of my 4 wagers is $370.

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« Reply #396 on: January 24, 2023, 09:06:58 PM »
I laid a wager at 150-1 right before the season tipoff, then a few more on 12/17 and 1/7 at 100-1, and then another that I got at 60-1 Sunday night before the odds shifted down to 40-1. 

My site offers to cash you out of bets as their risk level goes up.  They've already offered to double my money on the 150-1 bet made November 2nd.  As MU advances in the tourney the cash out offers will increase substantially.  I'd estimate a run to the Elite 8 would generate an offer of roughly $10k to avoid the $28,850 payout they'd have to make if MU won it all.  The total of my 4 wagers is $370.

That seems high to me. The guy who bet $5 on the four leg parlay to win $72K only had the option of cashing out for ~$1.5K after the first three legs hit.

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« Reply #397 on: January 24, 2023, 09:15:52 PM »
Yep. I always cheer for the Badgers to lose by 1. It piles up the Ls for Bucky while having a minimal impact on our computer numbers.

Plus it tears their collective hearts out to lose close games. Win,win,win.

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« Reply #398 on: January 24, 2023, 10:02:31 PM »
Their rivals. In general, I root for rivals to lose.
They’re…….not to all JB but..

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« Reply #399 on: January 24, 2023, 10:18:02 PM »
Their rivals. In general, I root for rivals to lose.

They’re rivals, so I wants us to beats them, but some rivals I can root for when they’re not playing us (Villanova, Xavier for example). Wisconsin? Never.

 

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