Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets

[MuggsyB]

And this is why I simply cannot understand the scoopers who say they want to see UW lose despite the fact that it may hurt us come Selection Sunday. Every little bit counts. After Selection Sunday? Hell yes, I hope they get embarrassed on the court, assuming they are in the tourney.

Scoop Snoop, 

That unfortunate defeat when they shot out of their asses won't matter.  We control our own destiny. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

What we want to know Brew is whether Wisky could be out of the NCAA tournament with their current trajectory?

Scoop has gone from roiling its fingers from Marquette's bubble chances under Wojo to now worrying about Bucky's.  Refreshing as a mountain stream.

[Mu8891]

MU is Waaaay beyond needing the help of UW re: our NET.

I ... like most MU fans ... want to see
UW lose every game. I hope MD takes them out tomorrow

[Goose]

Muggsy


My interest in how UW does is that same level as my interest in how Bradley finishes out the year, which is zero interest level. MU is in control of their destiny and that is all they could ask for going into the season. Get a win at UConn or Creighton and what Bucky does will have little impact on the Warriors.

[MuggsyB]

Excuse my ignorance but I don't gamble other than skins with my buddies on occasion.  What exactly are MU's F4 odds right now or Championship odds?  What does +4000 mean?  Ty.

[MuggsyB]

Muggsy


My interest in how UW does is that same level as my interest in how Bradley finishes out the year, which is zero interest level. MU is in control of their destiny and that is all they could ask for going into the season. Get a win at UConn or Creighton and what Bucky does will have little impact on the Warriors.

Exactly right Goose.  It only impacts my enjoyment of them losing and the trolls being mia on Scoop.

[Goose]

Muggsy

If that is accurate, if you bet $100 on MU making the FF you get $4000 if they make it. I did see the odds of MU winning NC has moved from 80-1 to 60-1 over the past ten days.

[MuggsyB]

Muggsy

If that is accurate, if you bet $100 on MU making the FF you get $4000 if they make it. I did see the odds of MU winning NC has moved from 80-1 to 60-1 over the past ten days.

My personality isn't suited towards gambling but that seems like a good F4 bet. 

[MuggsyB]

Keep in mind peeps that MU is #129 in 3pt percentage and yet have the most efficient offense in the country.  I truly believe we can elevate our accuracy from downtown. 

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

And this is why I simply cannot understand the scoopers who say they want to see UW lose despite the fact that it may hurt us come Selection Sunday. Every little bit counts. After Selection Sunday? Hell yes, I hope they get embarrassed on the court, assuming they are in the tourney.

The Baylor win over Kansas helped the Bears jump from 15 to 13 in NET.  That dropped Virginia to 14 and Marquette to 15.

The Badgers losing by 3, when predicted to lose by 4, had minimal impact.

*Corrected the margin of defeat and predicted margin of defeat.  I originally had them reversed.*

[The Sultan]

I will sacrifice a seed line to see the Badgers crater. Not even a question.

[Carl]

My personality isn't suited towards gambling but that seems like a good F4 bet.

Incorrect odds. Marquette is +800 to make the final four.

I.e bet 100 to win 800. Winning the whole tournament is 100 to pay 4000

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I will sacrifice a seed line to see the Badgers crater. Not even a question.

I's be happy to see them go 0-for the rest of the decade.

[Uncle Rico]

I's be happy to see them go 0-for the rest of the decade.

Me, too, but the obsession over them here is little brother-ish

[The Sultan]

Their rivals. In general, I root for rivals to lose.

[StillAWarrior]

I will sacrifice a seed line to see the Badgers crater. Not even a question.

Absolutely. This is consistent with my oft-stated (although unoriginal) position that my two favorite teams are Marquette and whoever is playing Wisconsin.

I suppose I would see it differently if MU was really sweating it out on the bubble in a given year. But if we're talking about a possible difference between a 5/6, 4/5 or 3/4...yeah, I want to see the Badgers get pounded.

Just. Keep. Winning.

[CountryRoads]

I will sacrifice a seed line to see the Badgers crater. Not even a question.

Same here. Besides, the Badgers sucking would just be a minuscule factor in dropping MU a seed line anyway. With all of the logistics that go into scheduling the tournament games and seeding the teams, we would never know if that specific game is what dropped MU a seed line (or if they dropped a seed line at all).

Regarding UW, it does bother me how much tournament success they've had in the last 10 years versus us and I would definitely love to see that script flipped. Once it has been flipped, then I think I'll join the others on here and not care much about UW. Just my feelings and I also respect the folks who couldn't care less about UW.

[Its DJOver]

The Baylor win over Kansas helped the Bears jump from 15 to 13 in NET.  That dropped Virginia to 14 and Marquette to 15.

The Badgers losing by 4, when predicted to lose by 3, had minimal impact.

This is the correct answer, the Baylor game had significantly more impact than the UW game.  Further, despite them leapfrogging us with the win, it helps solidify them as a q1a win rather than a q1b win.  The cutoff is 15, had they lost they would have dropped below that threshold and been q1b.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The Baylor win over Kansas helped the Bears jump from 15 to 13 in NET.  That dropped Virginia to 14 and Marquette to 15.

The Badgers losing by 4, when predicted to lose by 3, had minimal impact.

Yep. I always cheer for the Badgers to lose by 1. It piles up the Ls for Bucky while having a minimal impact on our computer numbers.

[UWW2MU]

Generally speaking, where in the NET rankings do you draw the line for in vs out of the ncaa tournament? 68?

The NET isn't really used that way.   It's a way to sort your resume, not really reflected on your own probability of making it.  Thus, we would use the NET rating of our opponents to sort our own resume for evaluation, but having the NET ranking of 15 itself isn't actually used.  However, that's not to say there is no correlation between the two, since winning/losing and how well you play affect both your resume and your NET.

[Elonsmusk]

Incorrect odds. Marquette is +800 to make the final four.

I.e bet 100 to win 800. Winning the whole tournament is 100 to pay 4000

I laid a wager at 150-1 right before the season tipoff, then a few more on 12/17 and 1/7 at 100-1, and then another that I got at 60-1 Sunday night before the odds shifted down to 40-1. 

My site offers to cash you out of bets as their risk level goes up.  They've already offered to double my money on the 150-1 bet made November 2nd.  As MU advances in the tourney the cash out offers will increase substantially.  I'd estimate a run to the Elite 8 would generate an offer of roughly $10k to avoid the $28,850 payout they'd have to make if MU won it all.  The total of my 4 wagers is $370.

[BM1090]

I laid a wager at 150-1 right before the season tipoff, then a few more on 12/17 and 1/7 at 100-1, and then another that I got at 60-1 Sunday night before the odds shifted down to 40-1. 

My site offers to cash you out of bets as their risk level goes up.  They've already offered to double my money on the 150-1 bet made November 2nd.  As MU advances in the tourney the cash out offers will increase substantially.  I'd estimate a run to the Elite 8 would generate an offer of roughly $10k to avoid the $28,850 payout they'd have to make if MU won it all.  The total of my 4 wagers is $370.

That seems high to me. The guy who bet $5 on the four leg parlay to win $72K only had the option of cashing out for ~$1.5K after the first three legs hit.

[Lennys Tap]

Yep. I always cheer for the Badgers to lose by 1. It piles up the Ls for Bucky while having a minimal impact on our computer numbers.

Plus it tears their collective hearts out to lose close games. Win,win,win.

[We R Final Four]

Their rivals. In general, I root for rivals to lose.

They're.......not to all JB but..

[Lennys Tap]

Their rivals. In general, I root for rivals to lose.

They're rivals, so I wants us to beats them, but some rivals I can root for when they're not playing us (Villanova, Xavier for example). Wisconsin? Never.