Twitter 3.0

[Jockey]

Musk now calling for prosecuting Fauci.

Once again, Musk is telling us who he is.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Yeah, this is the right-wing's hero, a guy that when disagreed with calls people pedophiles.

"We've discussed at some length in the past how there's is a far-right alternative universe in which pedophilia and child sexual exploitation are not those actual things but cudgels to be used against political enemies, 'globalists' and anyone even proximate to supporting the rights of the LBGT community. This is the well spring of things like the 'Pizzagate' conspiracy theory and much of what is now labeled Qanon.

Roth stayed on during Musk's early weeks at Twitter and Musk frequently put him forward to defend against claims he was opening the floodgates of hate on the platform. Roth was awesome. But then in recent days Roth took the fateful step of mildly criticizing Musk in public. Last night Musk retaliated by insinuating that Roth himself might be a pedophile and that that might explain Twitter's purported laxity toward 'groomers' and pedophiles before he acquired the company.

There's really no limit to the levels of predation and malevolence Musk is capable of. This is simply an alternative ecosystem in which charges of pedophilia are merely cudgels in far right ideological combat. Musk actually notoriously did the same thing, though with less attention to a British caver in 2018 when the man had the temerity to decline Musk's DYI submarine suggestion during the effort to save a group of Thai youths trapped in a flooded cave.

Six weeks ago Musk's Twitter takeover was still apparently about 'free speech' and the 'woke mob' and unbanning Donald Trump. In a period of about a week it's become a kind of Lord of the Flies of pedophilia smears.

These campaigns were dangerous and vile in the past. When they're led by a guy with 120 million followers who owns the platform it's a different matter entirely."

Josh Marshall (@joshtpm)  is the founder and Editor-in-Chief of TPM.

[Jockey]

It is understandable why people who deny truth or have alternative truths are all in.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Yeah, this is the right-wing's hero, a guy that when disagreed with calls people pedophiles.

"We've discussed at some length in the past how there's is a far-right alternative universe in which pedophilia and child sexual exploitation are not those actual things but cudgels to be used against political enemies, 'globalists' and anyone even proximate to supporting the rights of the LBGT community. This is the well spring of things like the 'Pizzagate' conspiracy theory and much of what is now labeled Qanon.

Roth stayed on during Musk's early weeks at Twitter and Musk frequently put him forward to defend against claims he was opening the floodgates of hate on the platform. Roth was awesome. But then in recent days Roth took the fateful step of mildly criticizing Musk in public. Last night Musk retaliated by insinuating that Roth himself might be a pedophile and that that might explain Twitter's purported laxity toward 'groomers' and pedophiles before he acquired the company.

There's really no limit to the levels of predation and malevolence Musk is capable of. This is simply an alternative ecosystem in which charges of pedophilia are merely cudgels in far right ideological combat. Musk actually notoriously did the same thing, though with less attention to a British caver in 2018 when the man had the temerity to decline Musk's DYI submarine suggestion during the effort to save a group of Thai youths trapped in a flooded cave.

Six weeks ago Musk's Twitter takeover was still apparently about 'free speech' and the 'woke mob' and unbanning Donald Trump. In a period of about a week it's become a kind of Lord of the Flies of pedophilia smears.

These campaigns were dangerous and vile in the past. When they're led by a guy with 120 million followers who owns the platform it's a different matter entirely."

Josh Marshall (@joshtpm)  is the founder and Editor-in-Chief of TPM.

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[reinko]

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You are more clever than resigning yourself to be just be a "reply guy".

[The Sultan]

You are more clever than resigning yourself to be just be a "reply guy".

Is he though?

[Pakuni]

You are more clever than resigning yourself to be just be a "reply guy".

Assumes facts not in evidence 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Is he though?

Eh, might as well let him go, he is literally a zero. Roqqet's posts are more interesting and valuable. He's the -4.0 replacement value player.

[tower912]

He used to be.

[Pakuni]

Free speech.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/twitter-account-following-elon-musks-private-jet-gets-shadow-banned?ref=home

[jesmu84]

https://twitter.com/punishedmother/status/1602144310350286848?t=nmh7TrucA9M27bcx_ia-kQ&s=19

[rocky_warrior]

Seriously, if you have a problem with Twitter, or the way it's being run, you shouldn't be using it or linking to it.  This is really weird to me.  Perhaps, it's because the term "train wreck" was because it's really fun to watch a train wreck.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/staged-train-wrecks

Also, probably no surprise that originated in Texas.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Eh, might as well let him go, he is literally a zero. Roqqet's posts are more interesting and valuable. He's the -4.0 replacement value player.

You posts seals, I post pig emojis.  Usually two pigs, but maybe I'll spice it up for you.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

You posts seals, I post pig emojis.  Usually two pigs, but maybe I'll spice it up for you.

Nope. I don't. What a useless poster.

[MU82]

Someone needs to ask QElon if the ex-Twitter pedophiles are bringing the kids to Comet Ping Pong, or just eating them on the spot.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Musk now taking down accounts that post the video of him getting booed at the Chappelle show last night.

Meanwhile, Tesla down another 6% today. Given Tesla shares are pledged against the Twitter purchase, there is a small but real chance that a continued downward spiral has cascading consequences.

As I said, it's Tesla shareholders that should be really pissed off that his antics are costing them real money. Welcoming Nazis to your platform, smearing people as pedophiles, bashing the LGBTQ+ community, trafficking in right-wing paranoid conspiracy theories, and generally showing that you are an entitled a-hole nonstop are generally things CEOs have enough common sense to avoid due to the impact on business. Oh, and look:

Tesla's approval rating sinks into negative territory, survey finds
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-approval-rating-sinks-into-negative-territory-survey-finds-11670602596?mod=economy-politics

"Tesla's approval rating has fallen fast, according to one survey. Yes, like politicians, automobile makers have approval ratings.

The electric-car maker started 2022 with a net-positive score of 5.9%, then peaked in May at 6.7%. In early November, it fell to a negative-1.4% reading.

YouGov found a political divide in the numbers. As the Wall Street Journal explains, "self-described liberals now view Tesla more negatively than conservatives, though conservatives also have a negative view of the brand on average."

What changed to influence opinions so radically? Tesla CEO Elon Musk famously bought the social network Twitter at the end of October and has been a prominent figure in the news for reshaping its operations."

Please proceed, Eloon.

[Pakuni]

Musk now taking down accounts that post the video of him getting booed at the Chappelle show last night.

No one has ever tried so hard to be cool and failed so thoroughly since Peter Brady said "pork chops and applesauce."

[tower912]

No wonder he hates free speech.

[MU82]

The hero of free speech only likes free speech when he likes what the speech is. He's a fraud.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Isn't this what every genius CEO does? Incite violent threats against anyone that mildly disagrees with you and baselessly call them a pedophile?


Former top Twitter official forced to leave home due to threats amid 'Twitter Files' release
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/12/tech/twitter-files-yoel-roth/index.html

"Twitter's former head of trust and safety has fled his home due to an escalation in threats resulting from Elon Musk's campaign of criticism against him, a person familiar with the matter told CNN on Monday.

Yoel Roth, who resigned from the social media company in November, has in recent weeks faced a storm of attacks and threats of violence following the release of the so-called "Twitter Files" — internal Twitter communications that new owner Musk has released through journalists including Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss.

Roth has since been the subject of criticism and threats following the release of the Twitter Files. However, things took a dark turn over the weekend when Musk appeared to endorse a tweet that baselessly accused Roth of being sympathetic to pedophilia — a common trope used by conspiracy theorists to attack people online."

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Oops.

Per the WSJ:
"Earlier this month the New York Times reported that as of October, Twitter's roster of advertisers had fallen nearly 42% since May. Similarweb's data paint an even worse picture: Activity on Twitter's ad manager, a subdomain of Twitter's ad platform sites that specifically hosts those creating or monitoring ad campaigns, declined nearly 74% in October from a year earlier, according to the firm's data. In November, visits fell 85% on the same basis—the largest ad traffic decline since Twitter's change of hands."

And:
https://twitter.com/duty2warn/status/1601970481325756416
"The ads you see on Twitter, for the most part, are PI deals. PI means Per Inquiry. They are free ads, Twitter only earns revenue when people click to order the dumpling maker, shoehorn, or toothpaste squeezer. The lowest end advertising. What an embarrassment for Twitter and Musk"

[MU82]

Oops.

Per the WSJ:
"Earlier this month the New York Times reported that as of October, Twitter's roster of advertisers had fallen nearly 42% since May. Similarweb's data paint an even worse picture: Activity on Twitter's ad manager, a subdomain of Twitter's ad platform sites that specifically hosts those creating or monitoring ad campaigns, declined nearly 74% in October from a year earlier, according to the firm's data. In November, visits fell 85% on the same basis—the largest ad traffic decline since Twitter's change of hands."

And:
https://twitter.com/duty2warn/status/1601970481325756416
"The ads you see on Twitter, for the most part, are PI deals. PI means Per Inquiry. They are free ads, Twitter only earns revenue when people click to order the dumpling maker, shoehorn, or toothpaste squeezer. The lowest end advertising. What an embarrassment for Twitter and Musk"

Yep, and he just disbanded Twitter's oversight committee. Did it minutes before they were supposed to meet. He wants to be a committee of one. The racist, anti-Semitic, conspiracy-theory crud he's happy to allow -- as long as it doesn't poke fun at him -- will impress advertisers even more.

[Babybluejeans]

To echo Rocky's post, why are folks linking to Twitter stories about how things are going badly for Twitter? Doesn't that only prove Twitter's ongoing importance? I'd love to see Twitter die on the vine, it's a social ill. But, sharing Twitter stories about Twitter's predicted demise seems to contradict the feast of schadenfreude people are having about it.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

To echo Rocky's post, why are folks linking to Twitter stories about how things are going badly for Twitter? Doesn't that only prove Twitter's ongoing importance? I'd love to see Twitter die on the vine, it's a social ill. But, sharing Twitter stories about Twitter's predicted demise seems to contradict the feast of schadenfreude people are having about it.

Because it is a discussion thread about Twitter?

[Pakuni]

To echo Rocky's post, why are folks linking to Twitter stories about how things are going badly for Twitter? Doesn't that only prove Twitter's ongoing importance? I'd love to see Twitter die on the vine, it's a social ill. But, sharing Twitter stories about Twitter's predicted demise seems to contradict the feast of schadenfreude people are having about it.

Twitter is no more of a social ill than the printing press is a social ill.