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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2022, 12:17:00 PM »
Only, if Gold is not good.

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2022, 12:19:10 PM »
I think we are worse than 9th place, if Gold is not good enough to play a significant role.
Joplin would need a huge step up (which is certainly possible) to be a game changer.

What makes you think gold will be a starter/main contributor?

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2022, 12:21:27 PM »
A fine nomination for the position of President of COLE. 

I think we are worse than 9th place, if Gold is not good enough to play a significant role.
Joplin would need a huge step up (which is certainly possible) to be a game changer.

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2022, 12:29:06 PM »
I think we have enough talent/options for a successful season without Gold being a major contributor.

He could be an X-Factor in significantly over performing though.

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2022, 12:41:29 PM »
He is big that can shoot 3’s, he will play

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2022, 12:55:17 PM »
He is big that can shoot 3’s, he will play

We’re in big trouble if he’s ahead of Joplin or Omax on the depth chart.

His best shot at consistent minutes will be behind oso. He may be a decent shooter next year, but lack of athleticism and strength will limit his minutes year 1.

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2022, 01:06:29 PM »
We’re in big trouble if he’s ahead of Joplin or Omax on the depth chart.

His best shot at consistent minutes will be behind oso. He may be a decent shooter next year, but lack of athleticism and strength will limit his minutes year 1.

Panda,  do you know this from the coaching  staff or watching him play extensively?

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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2022, 01:11:19 PM »
Panda,  do you know this from the coaching  staff or watching him play extensively?

No inside info - just my opinion that if he’s playinng in front of omax and Joplin we’ve either unearthed one of the best talents in cbb or two of our main contributors for next season made zero improvements from last season to this season (unlikely).

I am curious to see if hes able to play the 5. Mainly on the defensive end. That will be his  most positive impact spot on next years team as we’re extremely thin there .

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2022, 01:57:45 PM »
He is big that can shoot 3’s, he will play
But if cannot defend, he will not.
Joplin can shoot the three, but his D was behind last year…..so he was limited.

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2022, 02:25:50 PM »
Insiders please correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t Gold supposed to be a major contributor this year?  I thought he was supposed to be one of the better players in practice.  Maybe that’s wishful thinking on my part.  Don’t want Froling part two.

I think he's been one of the better offensive players in practice, not necessarily best overall players and Shaka is definitely a coach that values defense over offense. But I think he will be better than Froling and I think he's got a lot of upside.
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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2022, 03:01:34 PM »
I think he will be better than Froling

That bar's so low that even most Scoopers ain't lying under it in their own vomit.
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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2022, 03:57:33 PM »
My roster assessment:

Tier 1: Penciled in starters

Kolek
O-Max
Oso

Tier 2: Fringe starters and rotation players


S. Jones
Mitchell
K. Jones
Wright
Gold

Tier 3: Wildcard
Joplin

Tier 4: Wait and see
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I remember a team that had an S. Jones and a K. (C.) Jones - they did OK.

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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2022, 04:07:21 PM »
I am bullish on the composition of our squad this year. MU can compete well in The Big East and that is our primary goal as a team . A solid Big East performance will get MU in the tournament .
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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2022, 04:13:11 PM »
I am bullish on the composition of our squad this year. MU can compete well in The Big East and that is our primary goal as a team . A solid Big East performance will get MU in the tournament .

What's our Defcon 1 line-up Herman? 

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2022, 04:41:11 PM »
I am bullish on the composition of our squad this year. MU can compete well in The Big East and that is our primary goal as a team . A solid Big East performance will get MU in the tournament .

I hope the team doesn't go into the season believing they can compete well and that is their primary goal.

I hope they go into the season believing they can win every game and that is their primary goal. 


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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2022, 04:41:47 PM »
That bar's so low that even most Scoopers ain't lying under it in their own vomit.

Why are you anti Marquette? You seem to be the most negative nellie on scoop.

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2022, 04:44:05 PM »
Bwahahahahaha
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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2022, 04:47:34 PM »
But if cannot defend, he will not.
Joplin can shoot the three, but his D was behind last year…..so he was limited.

I have seen Gold enough to realize he has more skills then Novak had as a freshman.  He can run the floor and dribble it up the floor on a rebound. He is a 3 that will have to guard 4’s and 5’s. 
Remember one thing,  5’s will have a real hard time guarding him.  MU might have to try zone at times to hide him

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2022, 05:45:38 PM »
Why are you anti Marquette? You seem to be the most negative nellie on scoop.

How was that post anti marquette or negative?
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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2022, 05:46:32 PM »

I have seen Gold enough to realize he has more skills then Novak had as a freshman.  He can run the floor and dribble it up the floor on a rebound. He is a 3 that will have to guard 4’s and 5’s. 
Remember one thing,  5’s will have a real hard time guarding him.  MU might have to try zone at times to hide him

Adama sanogo/Ryan kalkbrenner v Ben gold on the defensive end  :-\

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« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2022, 05:55:04 PM »

I have seen Gold enough to realize he has more skills then Novak had as a freshman.  He can run the floor and dribble it up the floor on a rebound. He is a 3 that will have to guard 4’s and 5’s. 
Remember one thing,  5’s will have a real hard time guarding him.  MU might have to try zone at times to hide him
Well, he cant guard a 3……and he can’t most 5s so I hope his offense is so lights out that Shaka cant take him off of the floor.

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« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2022, 05:57:35 PM »
Adama sanogo/Ryan kalkbrenner v Ben gold on the defensive end  :-\

He was guarding grown men in the FIBA games with NZ.    They weren't as good or as athletic, but they were physical.   Gold got beat sometimes.    But he competed.    And he was able to finish through contact with either hand.   
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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2022, 06:13:33 PM »
Wrightsil on the floor might help

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« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2022, 06:19:17 PM »
He was guarding grown men in the FIBA games with NZ.    They weren't as good or as athletic, but they were physical.   Gold got beat sometimes.    But he competed.    And he was able to finish through contact with either hand.

Not as good or athletic being very important operative words. Jordan and Saudi Arabia mines well be rec league teams in relation to the international basketball scene. I’m not going to read much into those performances.

To clarify - love his skill set. I just don’t buy the fact he’s going to be a major contributor next year as some here claim.

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Re: And Then Along Came Jones?
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2022, 06:38:16 PM »
Not as good or athletic being very important operative words. Jordan and Saudi Arabia mines well be rec league teams in relation to the international basketball scene. I’m not going to read much into those performances.

To clarify - love his skill set. I just don’t buy the fact he’s going to be a major contributor next year as some here claim.
You are correct the bracket they played in sucked. The Americas and Europe brackets are a world of difference in FIBA
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