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Dickthedribbler

Quote from: MU82 on November 04, 2023, 02:26:07 PM
Good!

Any day that ND and Madison both lose is a good one!

Really enjoying the start of the Luke Fickell era in my little corner of the world.

JWags85

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 05, 2023, 12:49:59 AM
I was impressed by Penix

I actually like Penix more than Williams.  His throwing motion is a concern, but I prefer his decision making.  He has a cannon, motion aside

MU82

I will say there is nobody in college football I enjoy watching more than Caleb Williams, flaws and all.

Every game, he pulls off about a dozen Houdini moves, he makes numerous "did you see that?" throws, and he's a powerful (and often reckless) runner when forced to scramble. He also wears his emotions on his sleeve, which was at its highest level after last night's highly entertaining game. Even his mistakes are exciting.

He's another one who would have benefited by being allowed to go to the NFL after last season. He unquestionably would have been the #1 pick. I'm sure he's making incredible NIL money, but he's also putting his body at risk over and over and over again.

If I were his agent, I'd advise him to sit out the Beef O'Brady or whatever meh bowl USC goes to. (If his NIL contract allows him to do so.)
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

jesmu84

Quote from: JWags85 on November 05, 2023, 01:20:29 AM
I actually like Penix more than Williams.  His throwing motion is a concern, but I prefer his decision making.  He has a cannon, motion aside

They showed a stat during the game that Penix only had like 11% of his throws from outside the pocket, which was super low compared to rest of college.

To succeed in the NFL, you have to be more of a pocket passer or at least have that ability, regardless of your athleticism.

Uncle Rico

I was pretty critical of Milroe a few weeks back but he has taken some big strides the last few weeks.  Changes the ceiling for Bama if he's playing at a high level.
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Herman Cain

Colorado moves to 4-5 on the season after loss to Oregon State.

The Buffs got enough early hype in the season to secure many good prospects going forward .
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on November 05, 2023, 01:14:21 AM
Really enjoying the start of the Luke Fickell era in my little corner of the world.
I'm no Badger fan but I still like the hire and think Fickell will do well. I'd be higher on him if the Big10 was keeping the divisions. Big10 West = AAC.

Herman Cain

Low scoring Hawkeye games reminiscent of early 70s Big Ten Football

Winning on last second field goal at Wrigley had to be excellent  for their fan base
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 05, 2023, 10:46:53 AM
I'm no Badger fan but I still like the hire and think Fickell will do well. I'd be higher on him if the Big10 was keeping the divisions. Big10 West = AAC.

The Air Raid isn't going to work in Wisconsin.  It's Rich Rod at Michigan.  If he came in and ran the type of offense he did with Desmond Ridder, I'd like his chances more.  The Badger offense worked and would have been deadly had they ever had a mobile QB like when Wilson was there.  Christ's largest failure was failing to find a QB who could consistently move the chains with his legs to complement their power run game.

Now that they don't have the advantage of playing in the Big Ten West, I don't see them as a legit threat to win Big Ten titles.  They might find a year or two getting into the playoff but with the expansion of it, they'll never be serious threats.



Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Herman Cain on November 05, 2023, 10:55:56 AM
Low scoring Hawkeye games reminiscent of early 70s Big Ten Football

Winning on last second field goal at Wrigley had to be excellent  for their fan base

No, the fanbase actually didn't like it.  With their defense and special teams, most of them would prefer not to be a laughingstock nationally on offense because then maybe they'd be a real threat to win something.
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Herman Cain on November 05, 2023, 10:55:56 AM
Low scoring Hawkeye games reminiscent of early 70s Big Ten Football

All you need are adds for seeds or fertilizer.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 05, 2023, 10:56:24 AM
The Air Raid isn't going to work in Wisconsin.  It's Rich Rod at Michigan.  If he came in and ran the type of offense he did with Desmond Ridder, I'd like his chances more.  The Badger offense worked and would have been deadly had they ever had a mobile QB like when Wilson was there.  Christ's largest failure was failing to find a QB who could consistently move the chains with his legs to complement their power run game.

Now that they don't have the advantage of playing in the Big Ten West, I don't see them as a legit threat to win Big Ten titles.  They might find a year or two getting into the playoff but with the expansion of it, they'll never be serious threats.

Christ had no failures buddy.

Anyway I am cautiously optimistic. There needs to be more talent to make up for awful recruiting. Give it a couple of years.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Uncle Rico

Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 05, 2023, 11:01:29 AM
Have you seen the modern Catholic Church?
He could've used a better lawyer too.

PointWarrior

I liked the hire initially.  But they seemingly have zero identity this year.  Nothing flashes "bright future".  Nothing....  Transfer QBs pedestrian at best.  Defense has zero playmakers.   I get it that Chryst had abysmal recruiting for the past few years.   But nothing flashes in this team that says things will be looking up.   


Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 05, 2023, 10:56:24 AM
The Air Raid isn't going to work in Wisconsin.  It's Rich Rod at Michigan.  If he came in and ran the type of offense he did with Desmond Ridder, I'd like his chances more.  The Badger offense worked and would have been deadly had they ever had a mobile QB like when Wilson was there.  Christ's largest failure was failing to find a QB who could consistently move the chains with his legs to complement their power run game.

Now that they don't have the advantage of playing in the Big Ten West, I don't see them as a legit threat to win Big Ten titles.  They might find a year or two getting into the playoff but with the expansion of it, they'll never be serious threats.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: PointWarrior on November 05, 2023, 01:54:08 PM
I liked the hire initially.  But they seemingly have zero identity this year.  Nothing flashes "bright future".  Nothing....  Transfer QBs pedestrian at best.  Defense has zero playmakers.   I get it that Chryst had abysmal recruiting for the past few years.   But nothing flashes in this team that says things will be looking up.

Recruiting Rankings:

2024 Current: 24th
2023: 40th
2022: 41st
2021: 16th
2020: 26th
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Alex Grinch fired. Wasting Caleb Williams with a trash defense this year though.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 05, 2023, 02:33:35 PM
Alex Grinch fired. Wasting Caleb Williams with a trash defense this year though.
You can't question the decision, but the timing? After 10 games?

tower912

The heart of his defensive philosophy was two sizes too small.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: JWags85 on November 05, 2023, 01:20:29 AM
I actually like Penix more than Williams.  His throwing motion is a concern, but I prefer his decision making.  He has a cannon, motion aside
Am I missing something when people mention Drake Maye in the top QB discussion? I see a 1st round guy but at 19th in QBR in college against mediocre opposition, I'm not sold as a top 5 guy.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on November 05, 2023, 03:02:38 PM
The heart of his defensive philosophy was two sizes too small.

Superb
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

tower912

He could only get to the top through 'Max' effort.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jockey

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 05, 2023, 11:00:59 AM
Christ had no failures buddy.

Anyway I am cautiously optimistic. There needs to be more talent to make up for awful recruiting. Give it a couple of years.

I've said it over and over when discussing whether coaches are great or not.

You win with good players. Saban is a very good coach - but he is a great recruiter. Give him Wisconsin's talent every year and no one would be saying that he was a great coach.

Like you, I think Fickell will be fine once he gets a couple full recruiting classes.

Lennys Tap

Sounds like a lot of Scoopers root for UW in football. If so, I'm floored. I can't stand UW in any sport, thought their was solidarity among MU fans on that.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 05, 2023, 06:56:43 PM
Sounds like a lot of Scoopers root for UW in football. If so, I'm floored. I can't stand UW in any sport, thought their was solidarity among MU fans on that.

It helps Marquette's cause
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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