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tower912

#3400
May 09, 2025, 12:02:48 PM
This ranks so high on my caring scale that I had to Google Jordan Hudson.  Oh, her.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Billy Hoyle

#3401
May 09, 2025, 12:59:24 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on May 09, 2025, 11:59:29 AMWell, UNC now saying she's allowed.
Snip, snap. Snip, snap.

Cunningham will probably be at Michigan State in a few months. Why not go out with a bang?
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

TAMU, Knower of Ball

#3402
May 09, 2025, 07:31:48 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 09, 2025, 12:59:24 PMCunningham will probably be at Michigan State in a few months. Why not go out with a bang?

I didn't realize that they had the same arrangement as Alvarez and Bo
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.

Shaka Shart

#3403
May 09, 2025, 07:54:46 PM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 09, 2025, 07:31:48 PMI didn't realize that they had the same arrangement as Alvarez and Bo

Bill and Jordan?
"If we finish off this recruiting class on a high note and have another good year next year, with one 2018 already signed up (Bailey) we may be on the verge of a new era of sustained basketball success which would be known to all as the Golden Eagles era." - Herman Cain

cheebs09

#3404
May 09, 2025, 08:02:24 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on May 09, 2025, 07:54:46 PMBill and Jordan?

My understanding is both Bo and Barry enjoyed the massages of the same masseuse.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

#3405
May 09, 2025, 09:00:44 PM
Quote from: Shaka Shart on May 09, 2025, 07:54:46 PMBill and Jordan?

No, Bill and Bubba
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.

Shaka Shart

#3406
May 09, 2025, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on May 09, 2025, 08:02:24 PMMy understanding is both Bo and Barry enjoyed the massages of the same masseuse.

Get in the Zone!
"If we finish off this recruiting class on a high note and have another good year next year, with one 2018 already signed up (Bailey) we may be on the verge of a new era of sustained basketball success which would be known to all as the Golden Eagles era." - Herman Cain

JWags85

#3407
May 10, 2025, 08:49:04 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 09, 2025, 12:59:24 PMCunningham will probably be at Michigan State in a few months. Why not go out with a bang?

Is MSU that much of a better job than UNC?  I know Cunningham is from Michigan originally, but he's not an MSU alum and spent no real career time there.  He makes more than the current MSU AD.  I would think UNC is a more comfortable spot than MSU post Izzo.

The Sultan

#3408
May 10, 2025, 08:51:49 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on May 10, 2025, 08:49:04 PMIs MSU that much of a better job than UNC?  I know Cunningham is from Michigan originally, but he's not an MSU alum and spent no real career time there.  He makes more than the current MSU AD.  I would think UNC is a more comfortable spot than MSU post Izzo.

Not sure about that. The Hubert Davis extension and the BB hire could really look poor in a couple years. Plus I think the B10 is going to give any athletic director more resources.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

#3409
May 10, 2025, 09:08:06 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on May 10, 2025, 08:51:49 PMNot sure about that. The Hubert Davis extension and the BB hire could really look poor in a couple years. Plus I think the B10 is going to give any athletic director more resources.

BB is a big question mark, but I think they have no issue getting out of the Davis deal after this year if he struggles again and I think if both UNC and MSU are open, UNC is the more attractive BB job.

Resources is a legit argument but I feel like UNC would still be in the driver seat in all further conference expansion/change discussions.  But YMMV

cheebs09

#3410
May 10, 2025, 09:45:45 PM
Feels like MJ would be able to contribute pretty significantly to buying out Davis if needed. Just make up some imagined slight for MJ and he will pony up.

The Sultan

#3411
May 10, 2025, 09:50:59 PM Last Edit: May 11, 2025, 07:34:44 AM by The Sultan
Quote from: JWags85 on May 10, 2025, 09:08:06 PMBB is a big question mark, but I think they have no issue getting out of the Davis deal after this year if he struggles again and I think if both UNC and MSU are open, UNC is the more attractive BB job.

Resources is a legit argument but I feel like UNC would still be in the driver seat in all further conference expansion/change discussions.  But YMMV

Also I thought it was reported that Bubba was largely sitting on the sidelines for the BB hire. It was a Trustee and a couple boosters who did the work. And maybe he just doesn't want to be part of that.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

#3412
May 11, 2025, 07:31:08 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on May 10, 2025, 08:51:49 PMNot sure about that. The Hubert Davis extension and the BB hire could really look poor in a couple years. Plus I think the B10 is going to give any athletic director more resources.
UNC could be a B10 school in a few years.

The Sultan

#3413
May 11, 2025, 07:38:28 AM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 11, 2025, 07:31:08 AMUNC could be a B10 school in a few years.

So the 62 year old AD, who was basically forced to hire a football coach he didn't want but has to deal with the fallout, should not leave because UNC might be in the B10 eventually?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

#3414
May 11, 2025, 08:02:16 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on May 11, 2025, 07:38:28 AMSo the 62 year old AD, who was basically forced to hire a football coach he didn't want but has to deal with the fallout, should not leave because UNC might be in the B10 eventually?
Just saying UNC could very well have the same B10 resources you referenced.

Billy Hoyle

#3415
May 11, 2025, 10:42:48 AM Last Edit: May 11, 2025, 10:46:27 AM by Billy Hoyle
Quote from: JWags85 on May 10, 2025, 08:49:04 PMIs MSU that much of a better job than UNC?  I know Cunningham is from Michigan originally, but he's not an MSU alum and spent no real career time there.  He makes more than the current MSU AD.  I would think UNC is a more comfortable spot than MSU post Izzo.

MSU's new president came from UNC and the future of the ACC will remain in question for a few more years.  That BTN money dwarfs anything UNC will get from ESPN
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Uncle Rico

#3416
May 11, 2025, 12:32:32 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 11, 2025, 10:42:48 AMMSU's new president came from UNC and the future of the ACC will remain in question for a few more years.  That BTN money dwarfs anything UNC will get from ESPN

Counterpoint:  East Lansing
"Well, we're all going to die."

The Sultan

#3417
May 11, 2025, 06:58:32 PM
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

#3418
May 14, 2025, 11:16:31 AM
The Belichick thing has become such a mess that UNC has hired former Bulls, Blackhawks and Bears PR guy Brandon Faber to a new position that's, basically, in charge of trying to prevent silliness before it happens and/or damage-control it after it does happen.

I know Faber well, and he's as respected a pro as there is in sports communications. He's got his work cut out for him!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

#3419
May 20, 2025, 11:41:24 AM
The Athletic rated the top college football players of the 2000s. The top 4:

1. Cam Newton ... 2. Reggie Bush ... 3. Ndamukong Suh ... 4. Joe Burrow.

It's easy to see gripes on behalf of Bush, but no one swept through this sport like Cam. He remains the best athlete I've ever seen play, pummeling linebackers and running away from speedy cornerbacks with the same gusto. Auburn was meh before he got there, went undefeated, and was awful after he left. He is singular.

The top 2 teams:

1. 2001 Miami ... 2. 2019 LSU
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

#3420
May 20, 2025, 02:06:18 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2025, 11:41:24 AMThe Athletic rated the top college football players of the 2000s. The top 4:

1. Cam Newton ... 2. Reggie Bush ... 3. Ndamukong Suh ... 4. Joe Burrow.

It's easy to see gripes on behalf of Bush, but no one swept through this sport like Cam. He remains the best athlete I've ever seen play, pummeling linebackers and running away from speedy cornerbacks with the same gusto. Auburn was meh before he got there, went undefeated, and was awful after he left. He is singular.

The top 2 teams:

1. 2001 Miami ... 2. 2019 LSU

I didn't enjoy watching him play as much as many, and the cult of personality around him was beyond insufferable, but not having Tebow in the top 3 is insane.  Newton and Bush I get. But Suh had one awesome season.  Burrow was also a one season wonder.  Tebow was one of the top few players in CFB for 3 straight years.

Uncle Rico

#3421
May 20, 2025, 02:07:21 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on May 20, 2025, 02:06:18 PMI didn't enjoy watching him play as much as many, and the cult of personality around him was beyond insufferable, but not having Tebow in the top 3 is insane.  Newton and Bush I get. But Suh had one awesome season.  Burrow was also a one season wonder.  Tebow was one of the top few players in CFB for 3 straight years.

Tebow the college player was incredible. 
"Well, we're all going to die."

cheebs09

#3422
May 20, 2025, 02:44:14 PM
I was actually looking up details of Tebow's career to see if I missed something. I was surprised to see Burrow above him. I could only think people thought the surrounding talent propped him up more than others.

Uncle Rico

#3423
May 20, 2025, 02:46:41 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on May 20, 2025, 02:44:14 PMI was actually looking up details of Tebow's career to see if I missed something. I was surprised to see Burrow above him. I could only think people thought the surrounding talent propped him up more than others.

I mean, Burrow had arguably the best receiving core in college football history outside the recent Ohio State rosters, so that argument would be poor.
"Well, we're all going to die."

The Sultan

#3424
May 20, 2025, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2025, 11:41:24 AM1. 2001 Miami ... 2. 2019 LSU

I for sure think they got it right with #1.

I am pretty sure they got #2 right as well - there are some good arguments there for others, but in the end that LSU team was incredibly good.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass
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