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Herman Cain

Quote from: JWags85 on August 27, 2022, 04:49:19 PM
Except Payton did it with a 13-3 team.  Frost did it coming off back to back 3 win seasons and an abysmal record in one score games.  Even if it worked I feel like it would have been needlessly risky.  Dude is flailing
My guess is Frost may not even survive the season. The Wolves are circling.

https://www.si.com/college/2022/08/27/scott-frost-asked-if-hed-consider-stepping-down-from-nebraska
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Herman Cain on August 27, 2022, 05:18:56 PM
My guess is Frost may not even survive the season. The Wolves are circling.

https://www.si.com/college/2022/08/27/scott-frost-asked-if-hed-consider-stepping-down-from-nebraska

Nebraska got paid by joining the Big Ten but lost its last chance at being Nebraska again.  They should achieve to be Iowa or Wisconsin.  Their days as a blue blood are over
'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'

JWags85

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2022, 05:28:17 PM
Nebraska got paid by joining the Big Ten but lost its last chance at being Nebraska again.  They should achieve to be Iowa or Wisconsin.  Their days as a blue blood are over

They fell off even before the B10.  They've not finished in the top 10 in 20+ years.  And its just not a sexy brand.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on August 27, 2022, 05:55:08 PM
They fell off even before the B10.  They've not finished in the top 10 in 20+ years.  And its just not a sexy brand.

True but I compare them to Oklahoma.  OU wandered the wilderness post-Switzer until Stoops got there.  Nebraska at least was in the Big XII title game before leaving. 

I think cultural fit matters for these schools and it's why Maryland and Syracuse have lost their basketball identity
'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2022, 06:05:56 PM
True but I compare them to Oklahoma.  OU wandered the wilderness post-Switzer until Stoops got there.  Nebraska at least was in the Big XII title game before leaving. 

I think cultural fit matters for these schools and it's why Maryland and Syracuse have lost their basketball identity

Oklahoma feasts on Texas recruiting wise.  Nebraska could never really do that.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on August 27, 2022, 06:09:17 PM
Oklahoma feasts on Texas recruiting wise.  Nebraska could never really do that.

I think they had a better chance doing that staying in the Big XII than in the Big Ten but that's just conjecture, of course.  They don't have an identity anymore other than what was
'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2022, 06:15:16 PM
I think they had a better chance doing that staying in the Big XII than in the Big Ten but that's just conjecture, of course.  They don't have an identity anymore other than what was


You are probably right.  When they were at their peak, they recruited Florida tremendously.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on August 27, 2022, 06:47:36 PM

You are probably right.  When they were at their peak, they recruited Florida tremendously.

I think it was California, too.  Either way, they need the right guy as a head coach and that's easier said than done.  They need to quit chasing what was and figure out what they are now.

If they Big Ten West stayed as is, I'd focus on how they beat Wisconsin and Iowa but they'll be restarting again with a new coach and a new alignment.  Just a mess
'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on August 27, 2022, 04:49:19 PM
Except Payton did it with a 13-3 team.  Frost did it coming off back to back 3 win seasons and an abysmal record in one score games.  Even if it worked I feel like it would have been needlessly risky.  Dude is flailing

I'm not disagreeing. I wouldn't have done it. But if it worked, he'd have been "bold, aggressive and confident."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on August 27, 2022, 07:23:22 PM
I'm not disagreeing. I wouldn't have done it. But if it worked, he'd have been "bold, aggressive and confident."

Yeah.  It was a good play
'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'


Uncle Rico

'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

The Sultan

https://twitter.com/AlisonPosey14/status/1564336634358861825?s=20&t=DTz9TLn57hYHzEJCBTljDA

Pretty brutal summary of the athletic administration mishaps impacting the Florida A&M football team.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on August 29, 2022, 03:45:33 PM
https://twitter.com/AlisonPosey14/status/1564336634358861825?s=20&t=DTz9TLn57hYHzEJCBTljDA

Pretty brutal summary of the athletic administration mishaps impacting the Florida A&M football team.

The olds made the rules and these kids need to live by them
'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'

MU82

I don't often root for The Ohio State University, but I'll be pulling for them to win by at least 5 TDs this week.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

#41
@PeteThamel: Sources: The CFP Board of Managers has decided on a 12-team College Football Playoff during today's meeting.


@PeteThamel: The 12-team model is expected to start in 2026, after the current contract, according to a source. There's still a chance that it could go earlier, but those details are complicated and would take some time to work out. https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1565776097274236928

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on September 02, 2022, 02:01:07 PM
@PeteThamel: Sources: The CFP Board of Managers has decided on a 12-team College Football Playoff during today's meeting.

Excellent.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Pakuni on September 02, 2022, 02:01:07 PM
@PeteThamel: Sources: The CFP Board of Managers has decided on a 12-team College Football Playoff during today's meeting.


@PeteThamel: The 12-team model is expected to start in 2026, after the current contract, according to a source. There's still a chance that it could go earlier, but those details are complicated and would take some time to work out. https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1565776097274236928

Great news. I might actually pay attention to college football in the future!
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Herman Cain

Quote from: Pakuni on September 02, 2022, 02:01:07 PM
@PeteThamel: Sources: The CFP Board of Managers has decided on a 12-team College Football Playoff during today's meeting.


@PeteThamel: The 12-team model is expected to start in 2026, after the current contract, according to a source. There's still a chance that it could go earlier, but those details are complicated and would take some time to work out. https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1565776097274236928
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MU82

I think I'd have liked 8 teams better, but either 8 or 12 is better than the current system.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

Doesn't change much.  It'll still be Bama, Ohio State, Georgia, Clemson and then maybe a random school once every 5-10 years (Oregon, Auburn, Florida State, LSU, etc.).  Just adds one more blowout win for those top 4 teams.  See what they do to Notre Dame or Cincinnati when those two teams sneak into the semifinals.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: wadesworld on September 02, 2022, 03:05:06 PM
Doesn't change much.  It'll still be Bama, Ohio State, Georgia, Clemson and then maybe a random school once every 5-10 years (Oregon, Auburn, Florida State, LSU, etc.).  Just adds one more blowout win for those top 4 teams.  See what they do to Notre Dame or Cincinnati when those two teams sneak into the semifinals.
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Yup.  Coaching turnover will be greater, too
'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'

RJax55

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 02, 2022, 03:10:55 PM
.

Yup.  Coaching turnover will be greater, too

I think it may help coaching turnover go down a little bit. I'm thinking of Dan Mullen and Florida. In an expanded playoff, Florida likely gets the nod in 2019. If that's the case, does Mullen survive his bad season last year? I think he might have.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: RJax55 on September 02, 2022, 03:25:24 PM
I think it may help coaching turnover go down a little bit. I'm thinking of Dan Mullen and Florida. In an expanded playoff, Florida likely gets the nod in 2019. If that's the case, does Mullen survive his bad season last year? I think he might have.

Coaches not making a 12-team playoff regularly will be getting sent to the moon.  It'll be a bloodbath in the SEC
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