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Author Topic: 2022-23 College Football Thread  (Read 3739 times)

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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #200 on: September 20, 2022, 01:42:31 PM »
A&M fans may not want to go back but there’s a couple of things at play with that thought.  They thought they were leaving Texas behind and “sticking” it to them.  Also, the SEC establishment still looks at A&M as just another school and nothing other than that.  They don’t have rivalries.  They have 4+ hour games because commercials

No school is looking back because their pocketbooks are flush.  But let’s not kid ourselves, none of these schools have gotten better on the field or on the court because  of the moves.  I’d argue most have gotten worse and in most cases, lack an identity.  If A&M wasn’t paying Jimbo Fisher the GDP equivalent of a third world nation, they’d hardly register in the consciousness. 


I disagree with this.  As TAMU said, they are a school that traditionally has "little brother syndrome."  Going to the SEC allowed them to differentiate themselves from UT-Austin - which is what they wanted.  And which is why they weren't thrilled with the UT and OU expansion.
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #201 on: September 20, 2022, 01:52:58 PM »

I disagree with this.  As TAMU said, they are a school that traditionally has "little brother syndrome."  Going to the SEC allowed them to differentiate themselves from UT-Austin - which is what they wanted.  And which is why they weren't thrilled with the UT and OU expansion.

Eh, I don’t buy that.  They thought they were one upping Texas, not differentiating themselves.  And they ended up with neither
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #202 on: September 20, 2022, 02:35:57 PM »
Eh, I don’t buy that.  They thought they were one upping Texas, not differentiating themselves.  And they ended up with neither

I wouldn't say that. TU was undeniably the superior football program for years and controlled in state recruiting. Since the move to the SEC, TAMU has one upped them and become the stronger football program (not that they have anything meaningful to show for it) and seized control of in state recruiting from the Longhorns. I don't know how much of that is directly attributable to the shift to the SEC but it absolutely benefitted the football program. Now that TU is on the way, I doubt that continues.
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #203 on: September 20, 2022, 03:00:01 PM »
Nah.  He'll sit and take TV money unless a marquee job opens up, ASU co-ed jokes aside

While funny, I agree Urban to ASU doesn't seem likely to happen. But, if there was ever a guy made to live it up in Scottsdale, its Urban.

ASU should be better than they are. Way too many odd hires over the years.

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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #204 on: September 20, 2022, 03:23:58 PM »
While funny, I agree Urban to ASU doesn't seem likely to happen. But, if there was ever a guy made to live it up in Scottsdale, its Urban.

ASU should be better than they are. Way too many odd hires over the years.


So I have seen this stated a lot the last few days. Why should ASU be better than they are? They are hardly from a football hotbed and largely have to pull players from California or elsewhere to be successful.

They have largely been a just over .500 program with occasional bursts of something greater when it all falls together.  I kinda think that's just what they are.
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #205 on: September 20, 2022, 03:30:02 PM »

So I have seen this stated a lot the last few days. Why should ASU be better than they are? They are hardly from a football hotbed and largely have to pull players from California or elsewhere to be successful.

They have largely been a just over .500 program with occasional bursts of something greater when it all falls together.  I kinda think that's just what they are.

Any program being called a sleeping giant by the national media is almost certainly not that
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #206 on: September 20, 2022, 03:58:46 PM »

So I have seen this stated a lot the last few days. Why should ASU be better than they are? They are hardly from a football hotbed and largely have to pull players from California or elsewhere to be successful.

They have largely been a just over .500 program with occasional bursts of something greater when it all falls together.  I kinda think that's just what they are.

Agreed.  Theyve not had back to back top 15 seasons since they joined the Pac 12, and in the last 35 years since John Cooper left, they've only had 2 coaches finish better than .500 in the Pac-12 for their tenure.  And one was Todd Graham whose tenure imploded and finished very mediocre.

And Arizona is not a great HS football talent bed.  Looking at the last 5 years, with the exception of the 2020 class, Arizona usually has no more than 2-3 players in the top 200 recruits nationally.  And going back 7 years, ASU or Zona has kept 0 of those top 200 guys in state.  Look at the studs out of the state like Bijan Robinson or Spencer Rattler, staying in state was never a serious consideration.  Even a borderline guy like Chubba Purdy, who went to FSU, was considering ASU but didn't even make the final 3.

No rich football history, not in a great football recruiting state, and way down in the pecking order in your own conference.  Plus that conference routinely raids your state when you do have some good talent, like Oregon, USC, and UCLA have done.  I don't know why its a sleeping giant.  I think its, AT BEST, the 6th best job in the P12, and I could be persuaded to put it lower.

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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #207 on: September 20, 2022, 04:08:57 PM »
6th best is probably right - behind USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington and Stanford.  Probably ahead of Utah but clearly ahead of Arizona, Colorado, Cal, Oregon State and Washington State.
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #208 on: September 20, 2022, 04:36:43 PM »
Top candidate for Nebraska job

https://www.si.com/college/2022/09/20/nebraska-has-three-leading-candidates-for-next-coach-per-report

Surprised Urban is not on the list . He would do a great job for The Huskers .
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #209 on: September 20, 2022, 04:40:14 PM »
Top candidate for Nebraska job

https://www.si.com/college/2022/09/20/nebraska-has-three-leading-candidates-for-next-coach-per-report

Surprised Urban is not on the list . He would do a great job for The Huskers .

It was reported a few days ago he wasn’t a candidate
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #210 on: September 20, 2022, 04:50:35 PM »
6th best is probably right - behind USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington and Stanford.  Probably ahead of Utah but clearly ahead of Arizona, Colorado, Cal, Oregon State and Washington State.

Yep thats what I was thinking.  Id probably give the edge to Utah cause its been a solid program for 30+ years now.  It wasn't as good as its been recently, but it was a pretty solid mid major in the WAC/MWC before Urban Meyer ever got there.  And now you have 20 years with only 2 seasons under .500 and a bunch of top 20 finishes.

Top candidate for Nebraska job

https://www.si.com/college/2022/09/20/nebraska-has-three-leading-candidates-for-next-coach-per-report

Surprised Urban is not on the list . He would do a great job for The Huskers .

I disagree.  Anyone who has had success at Nebraska had a connection to the school or the area/Plains states.  Urban doesn't make sense at all to me.  They should be going all in on Leipold.  Matt Campbell isn't a bad second choice either.

Urban sticks in the booth unless Freeman flames out at ND or maybe 2-3 other schools.

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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #211 on: September 20, 2022, 04:54:51 PM »
Press Conference from Nebraska interim Head Coach Mickey Joseph


https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/quick-hits-from-mickey-joseph-s-bye-week-press-conference-1
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #212 on: September 20, 2022, 05:12:46 PM »
Press Conference from Nebraska interim Head Coach Mickey Joseph


https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/quick-hits-from-mickey-joseph-s-bye-week-press-conference-1

Dead man walking.  He should probably be calling coaches looking for a job
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #213 on: September 20, 2022, 05:44:33 PM »
Dead man walking.  He should probably be calling coaches looking for a job

He was a really good WR coach at LSU.  Surely pursuing that would be better than assuming anything in Lincoln.

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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #214 on: September 21, 2022, 12:46:09 PM »
6th best is probably right - behind USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington and Stanford.  Probably ahead of Utah but clearly ahead of Arizona, Colorado, Cal, Oregon State and Washington State.

Personally, I'd rather coach at Colorado and Cal than ASU.

And now with USC and UCLA out, ASU is not even close to a sleeping giant.

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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #215 on: September 24, 2022, 05:22:46 PM »
This former UW Whitewater coach will be the Bama coach when Saban retires at this rate.
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #216 on: September 24, 2022, 05:27:29 PM »
Gophers blowing out The Spartans
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #217 on: September 24, 2022, 05:28:26 PM »
Gophers blowing out The Spartans

Spartans might regret overpaying a dude who has more double digit losses than wins and won four games last year despite being outgained in those games
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #218 on: September 24, 2022, 05:56:00 PM »
Spartans might regret overpaying a dude who has more double digit losses than wins and won four games last year despite being outgained in those games
Tucker contract completely one side in his favor. MSU was desperate

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/mel-tuckers-massive-contract-extension-is-fully-guaranteed-with-buyout-unchanged.html
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #219 on: September 24, 2022, 06:00:41 PM »
Tucker contract completely one side in his favor. MSU was desperate

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/mel-tuckers-massive-contract-extension-is-fully-guaranteed-with-buyout-unchanged.html

I get it.  LSU rumors were hot.  His agent played it well.  In his defense, he got hired during covid year and his predecessor mailed it in the last few years.  Still, the Big Ten East is a meat grinder and you better get the coach right if you’re Sparty
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #220 on: September 24, 2022, 06:26:15 PM »
Ohio St. Is favored by 19?? 

I bet 10 bucks they'd cover but didn't realize the spread was so high. 

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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #221 on: September 24, 2022, 06:28:11 PM »
Ohio St. Is favored by 19?? 

I bet 10 bucks they'd cover but didn't realize the spread was so high.

It was 17.5 when I got in.  Lot of money on OSU.  Good test for the Bucks who spent the off-season getting “tougher” after Michigan outmuscled them
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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #222 on: September 24, 2022, 06:44:51 PM »
I see Washington State went from up 11 to down 10 in like 5 mins. 

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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #223 on: September 24, 2022, 06:48:33 PM »
Ohio State's unis are seriously hideous. 

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Re: 2022-23 College Football Thread
« Reply #224 on: September 24, 2022, 06:57:19 PM »
I see Washington State went from up 11 to down 10 in like 5 mins.
Washington State can't hang with a good Big 10 team..... sorry Oregon not in the Big 10 yet.

(I guess, sorry to Wisconsin too)

 

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