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Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on June 15, 2023, 09:46:48 AM
I'm not so sure Jimmy would be 1A to Dame.  The Heat is unquestionably Jimmy's team and if Dame is leaving Portland at this point, it's to chase a 'ship, not go somewhere else to be the man.   I think those two would coexist just fine.  Honestly I think a Jimmy/Dame fit makes more sense than a Jimmy/Beal fit

If Dame wants a title, he should play with Giannis
Guster is for Lovers

jesmu84

Quote from: MUBurrow on June 15, 2023, 09:19:50 AM
I'm not trying to go all withoutbias here, but can Jimmy co-exist with another top 20 player?  I love the guy, but that crashed and burned in Minnesota and Philadelphia.  Both those circumstances have a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what have yous, but my impression from Jimmy is that he thrives in the try-hard, underdog role.  After being the guy in Miami for a bunch of years, I'm not sure he would adjust well to bringing Dame in.

It's a few years ago now, but jimmy was just fine in Chicago.

And from what I remember, his problems in MN and Philly were less about being the #2 vs others on the team not competing at his level

4everwarriors

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 15, 2023, 08:46:04 AM
I think teams are going to steer clear of Herro's contract. He's just starting the first of a four year, $120M deal.  But then again, who knows?



Why? Its cheap, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

WhiteTrash

Quote from: lawdog77 on June 15, 2023, 08:43:03 AM
Here's one site's proposal:
Heat-Blazers Damian Lillard trade
Miami Heat Receive: Damian Lillard

Portland Trail Blazers Receive: Tyler Herro, Caleb Martin, Nikola Jovic, Victor Oladipo, No. 18 pick in 2023, 2027 first-round pick, 2029 first-round pick
The Heat should throw in their home arena and team plane.

wadesworld

Lavine and Beal being shopped.  Dame unlikely but there seems to at least be smoke for the first time there.  Pels open to trading Zion?  Could be a fun week leading up to the Draft.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: wadesworld on June 15, 2023, 03:12:34 PM
Lavine and Beal being shopped.  Dame unlikely but there seems to at least be smoke for the first time there.  Pels open to trading Zion?  Could be a fun week leading up to the Draft.
What is Zion worth? Obviously, not the number 1 pick, probably not 2-5. Lottery pick?
I thought he was almost a LeBron like "cant miss super star", my how things have changed.

4everwarriors

Some here (they don't know ball) are concerned with Herro's contract. Not me, its cheap. As for Zion, run the other way, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MuggsyB

3 Billion for the Hornets???

At least MJ won't go hungry. 

MuggsyB

A bit surprised Morant only got 25 games. 

tower912

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The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 16, 2023, 09:57:39 AM
3 Billion for the Hornets???

The Bucks were valued at 3.5 B when a 25% stake was sold last year so I think this valuation makes sense.
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wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 16, 2023, 08:50:16 AM
Some here (they don't know ball) are concerned with Herro's contract. Not me, its cheap. As for Zion, run the other way, hey?

The Hausers disagree about Herro's contract.  And they damn well know ball.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 16, 2023, 08:32:51 AM
What is Zion worth? Obviously, not the number 1 pick, probably not 2-5. Lottery pick?
I thought he was almost a LeBron like "cant miss super star", my how things have changed.

Fringe mvp numbers IF healthy, if Dame wants to stay in Portland and have one last go at it he's probably their best option. I personally think in this caliber of draft you gotta take your pick though.
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Herman Cain

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 16, 2023, 09:57:39 AM
3 Billion for the Hornets???

At least MJ won't go hungry.
An Excellent Deal for Michael. Don't know what his exact percentage is, but he is probably netting a Cool Billion after taxes.

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Lennys Tap

Quote from: wadesworld on June 16, 2023, 11:37:17 AM
The Hausers disagree about Herro's contract.  And they damn well know ball.

Which Hauser is without bias?

rocket surgeon

  pretty sure pelican s want zion's money shots on the floor, not off it.  he's only played in 114 games accross 4 seasons(328 games)
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Skatastrophy

Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 17, 2023, 02:50:41 AM
  pretty sure pelican s want zion's money shots on the floor, not off it.  he's only played in 114 games accross 4 seasons(328 games)

Pretty good for 3am shitposting

MuggsyB

Remember, Embiid had a lot of health struggles his first few years.  We know Williamson is a tremendous talent and incredibly efficient as as scorer.  If you were an NBA GM would you take the risk?

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 17, 2023, 08:45:24 AM
Remember, Embiid had a lot of health struggles his first few years.  We know Williamson is a tremendous talent and incredibly efficient as as scorer.  If you were an NBA GM would you take the risk?
I would take the risk but not for a top 10 pick. The difference from Embiid is Zion's issues are caused by his choices, weight, not just bad luck. I don't follow his game, other than his amazing physical feats, but could he be an effective 'below the rim' player?

MuggsyB

Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 17, 2023, 10:48:57 AM
I would take the risk but not for a top 10 pick. The difference from Embiid is Zion's issues are caused by his choices, weight, not just bad luck. I don't follow his game, other than his amazing physical feats, but could he be an effective 'below the rim' player?

I suppose that's fair

JWags85

Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 17, 2023, 10:48:57 AM
I would take the risk but not for a top 10 pick. The difference from Embiid is Zion's issues are caused by his choices, weight, not just bad luck. I don't follow his game, other than his amazing physical feats, but could he be an effective 'below the rim' player?

Yes.  He's already a career 61% shooter inside at the NBA level.  He's a 70%+ FT shooter and doesn't really get into foul trouble.  He's got a ton of a potential.

He's also a career 35% 3P shooter, 37% this year, so with some work, he could be a pretty good 3P shooter and that opens up his inside game even more.

WhiteTrash

I'm sure someone here can answer this: what can the Bulls do with Ball? Does he have to retire, which he won't because he is due big $$, or can the Bulls force the action to move that contact off the books sooner? The Bulls have no one to blame but themselves but some flexibility would be great since Ball will never play again.

wadesworld

I'd trade any pick in this year's draft other than Wemby or MAYBE Scoot for Zion. Depends on my roster makeup when choosing between Scoot and Zion.

I'd take Zion over any 2024 pick.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: wadesworld on June 17, 2023, 05:32:07 PM
I'd trade any pick in this year's draft other than Wemby or MAYBE Scoot for Zion. Depends on my roster makeup when choosing between Scoot and Zion.

I'd take Zion over any 2024 pick.
Can't argue with that thought. But also wouldn't argue with not giving up a top 20 pick for him either.

MuggsyB

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Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 17, 2023, 06:17:43 PM
Can't argue with that thought. But also wouldn't argue with not giving up a top 20 pick for him either.

So what exactly are you saying?

It's not an easy question but there are two choices. How deep is this draft?  I'm looking at sone of these names and I'm not sure it's a great slew of players other than Wemby and the top few guys. 

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