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wadesworld

Quote from: User Name #251 on June 30, 2022, 08:04:03 PM
He was arguably the alpha on the two GSW championships he was on.

Yup.

When all is said and done he will be a top 10 player ever.

He'd have won back to back titles with the Nets if he had a size 17 shoe instead of 17.5.

MuggsyB

Ingles is a career 40% 3pt shooter.  What are the odds Grayson Allen gets his head out of his ass?

wadesworld

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 30, 2022, 10:10:26 PM
Ingles is a career 40% 3pt shooter.  What are the odds Grayson Allen gets his head out of his ass?

I'm not overly worried about Grayson. If Middleton stays healthy, Grayson doesn't have to do anything but catch and shoot open 3s, attack a closeout once a half, and guard the worst perimeter player for 25 mpg.

MuggsyB

Quote from: wadesworld on June 30, 2022, 10:12:01 PM
I'm not overly worried about Grayson. If Middleton stays healthy, Grayson doesn't have to do anything but catch and shoot open 3s, attack a closeout once a half, and guard the worst perimeter player for 25 mpg.

I expect Giannis to have his best season. 

Jockey

Quote from: User Name #251 on June 30, 2022, 08:04:03 PM
He was arguably the alpha on the two GSW championships he was on.

Draymond was the Alpha. Curry was the driver of the car.

wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on June 30, 2022, 10:27:11 PM
Draymond was the Alpha. Curry was the driver of the car.

And KD was the best player.

MuggsyB

So Durant is overrated but Draymond isn't?  Oh.....okay.

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 30, 2022, 10:38:28 PM
So Durant is overrated but Draymond isn't?  Oh.....okay.

I never even made a comment about Draymond's abilities.

Jockey

Quote from: wadesworld on June 30, 2022, 10:37:16 PM
And KD was the best player.

KD was the best quitter. He has quit everywhere. He just signed a new deal with the Nets 10 Months ago and is now quitting on them. He will never win a title without Curry.

It's also a bit odd that the 'best player in the world' has only won 1 MVP. THREE different guys have won multiple MVPs since Durant won his only one.

wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on June 30, 2022, 11:41:23 PM
KD was the best quitter. He has quit everywhere. He just signed a new deal with the Nets 10 Months ago and is now quitting on them. He will never win a title without Curry.

It's also a bit odd that the 'best player in the world' has only won 1 MVP. THREE different guys have won multiple MVPs since Durant won his only one.

Where has he quit? Free agents leaving for a new team when their contract is up is "quitting?"

So you're of the belief that Harden and Russ were the best player in the world the years they won MVP? That Jokic has been the best player in the world the last 2 years? That LBJ has only been the best player in the world for 4 years of his life?

MuggsyB

Quote from: Jockey on June 30, 2022, 11:41:23 PM
KD was the best quitter. He has quit everywhere. He just signed a new deal with the Nets 10 Months ago and is now quitting on them. He will never win a title without Curry.

It's also a bit odd that the 'best player in the world' has only won 1 MVP. THREE different guys have won multiple MVPs since Durant won his only one.

His legacy is tarnished for sure.  But that does not mean he's overrated. 

MuggsyB

If the Nets can get Ayton, Bridges, and Cam Johnson for Durant would you' make that deal?

MuggsyB

Would the Bucks take a flier on Kemba Walker if he has interest?

forgetful

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 01, 2022, 07:56:21 AM
If the Nets can get Ayton, Bridges, and Cam Johnson for Durant would you' make that deal?

No.

Jockey

Quote from: wadesworld on July 01, 2022, 12:05:08 AM
Where has he quit? Free agents leaving for a new team when their contract is up is "quitting?"

So you're of the belief that Harden and Russ were the best player in the world the years they won MVP? That Jokic has been the best player in the world the last 2 years? That LBJ has only been the best player in the world for 4 years of his life?

He signed a 4 year deal with the Nets less than a year ago and now he is quitting on them.

It amazed me how you defend Durant always, but constantly have attacked a far superior player (Lebron) over the years.

Finally, yes, the greatest players win multiple MVPs. Very good players can win one.

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 01, 2022, 07:53:05 AM
His legacy is tarnished for sure.  But that does not mean he's overrated.

There are people here who think he is top 10 all-time. That is overrated.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on July 01, 2022, 09:20:12 AM
He signed a 4 year deal with the Nets less than a year ago and now he is quitting on them.

It amazed me how you defend Durant always, but constantly have attacked a far superior player (Lebron) over the years.

Finally, yes, the greatest players win multiple MVPs. Very good players can win one.

You said he quit "everywhere" and then proceeded to list one place.  He didn't quit on OKC and he didn't quit on GSW.

wadesworld

Quote from: JWags85 on July 01, 2022, 09:26:25 AM
You said he quit "everywhere" and then proceeded to list one place.  He didn't quit on OKC and he didn't quit on GSW.

Exactly.  And nothing has been finalized for his exit from the Nets.

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on July 01, 2022, 09:26:25 AM
You said he quit "everywhere" and then proceeded to list one place.  He didn't quit on OKC and he didn't quit on GSW.

He also opted out on GS (where Curry still got the most attention). Semantics? Yes, but he still left a team where he could have won more championships.

I don't believe he will ever win a title again even though he always chooses where he wants to play. He's not gonna find another Curry to carry a team to a title. Or a team where the two best players (Curry, Klay) willingly sacrificed their own stats to win.

He will always score because he shoots more than almost everyone in the league - I believe he was 4th this year in most shots per game.

I still don't think I am demeaning him. I have said he is one of the 3 most highly skilled players in the world. But he is no Giannis.

wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on July 01, 2022, 12:49:24 PM
He also opted out on GS (where Curry still got the most attention). Semantics? Yes, but he still left a team where he could have won more championships.

I don't believe he will ever win a title again even though he always chooses where he wants to play. He's not gonna find another Curry to carry a team to a title. Or a team where the two best players (Curry, Klay) willingly sacrificed their own stats to win.

He will always score because he shoots more than almost everyone in the league - I believe he was 4th this year in most shots per game.

I still don't think I am demeaning him. I have said he is one of the 3 most highly skilled players in the world. But he is no Giannis.

So he gets knocked because his rings don't count because dynasty/Curry/Klay. But he gets knocked because he left Curry/Klay where he would've won more rings. And he's a quitter because he opted out of his contract like every top player does because they can earn more money by opting out and signing a new deal? And knocked because one of the greatest scorers in the history of the game shoots a lot.

This is just really silly.

BM1090

Quote from: wadesworld on July 01, 2022, 12:05:08 AM
Where has he quit? Free agents leaving for a new team when their contract is up is "quitting?"

So you're of the belief that Harden and Russ were the best player in the world the years they won MVP? That Jokic has been the best player in the world the last 2 years? That LBJ has only been the best player in the world for 4 years of his life?

No. Maybe? Giannis has an argument. No.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Jockey on July 01, 2022, 09:23:03 AM
There are people here who think he is top 10 all-time. That is overrated.

Your logic is irrational Jockey and personally I wouldn't put him in the top 10 of all time.  But if some people think he's 9th as opposed to say 14th, 15th, 16th that doesn't make him "overrated". 

PGsHeroes32

The Wolves are now the answer to "What sports franchise made the worst trade in history"

Unbelievable.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 01, 2022, 03:20:09 PM
The Wolves are now the answer to "What sports franchise made the worst trade in history"

Unbelievable.

Wow.....incredible trade.  It better work or they won't be good for like a decade.

JWags85

Gobert and Towns paired together to be the softest front court in NBA history

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