2022-23 NBA Thread

[MuggsyB]

Someone will score 35 next week and be deemed a top 8 player by Muggsy.

A 1 time All Star who isn't really an above average shooter, who is nowhere near as good as his teammate who is a legit top 8 player, and who is being presented as a fearsome Rodman level defender despite never being in the discussion for All Defensive team is suddenly the best 2G in the league 

When you go to "intangibles" as one of your main arguments for a player's greatness, you've lost.

He's averaging 26.7 ppg with a .498 shooting percentage.  He scores pretty proficiently.

[JWags85]

He's averaging 26.7 ppg with a .498 shooting percentage.  He scores pretty proficiently.

He's shooting 35% from 3 the last 2 years.  He's not even top 5 in scoring in the East alone.  He's a nice player, nobody is doubting that.  Stop trying to make him into a legend that has the rest of the league cowering in fear.

[MuggsyB]

He's shooting 35% from 3 the last 2 years.  He's not even top 5 in scoring in the East alone.  He's a nice player, nobody is doubting that.  Stop trying to make him into a legend that has the rest of the league cowering in fear.

I never stated he's a legend.

[MU82]

I love having Muggs on Scoop; he's the best addition we've had to our little corner of the interwebs in many years.

He brings a lot of passion to discussions, he makes plenty of good points, he occasionally comes up with topics that make folks think, he rarely wades into politics, he doesn't insult his fellow Scoopers, and he's totally bonkers for Marquette hoops.

Yes, he has lots of over-the-top takes, and he sometimes starts threads that are almost identical to topics that are already out there, and he can be an anxious little guy about a variety of subjects ... but hey, each of us has a quirk or 3!

So what if Jaylen Brown ain't a top-10 guy, the Celtics are as big a dynasty as the Suns were a year ago and every mistake by a Marquette player or coach isn't an unmitigated disaster?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

If the Pelicans make it out of the west, I like how they matchup with the Celtics.   

McCollum/Alvarado
Jones
Murphy
Ingram
Zion

A lot of long, switchable defenders that can shoot 3's.  Dyson Daniels might be in the mix as well, if he keeps progressing.

[MUfan12]

From the Bucks perspective any move they make this year, whether trade or a buyout guy, will be 100% to help against Boston.

I don't love the Crowder fit for them on the offensive end, but he's a strong guy who can bother big wings.

[MuggsyB]

Let me be clear:  I would absolutely hate to see the Celtics carve teams apart in the playoffs, especially the Bucks.  But right now they look like they're clearly the better team.  The Bucks should have all hands on deck and make the proper counter moves ASAP.

[MUfan12]

The Bucks should have all hands on deck and make the proper counter moves ASAP.

But that's not how it works. You know that. Titles aren't won in December. Yeah, it would be nice to be the top seed, but Milwaukee won two games in Boston in that series.

There's so much season left, making a major move now would be foolish. What happens if, God forbid, one of the big three has a season ending injury? Those assets are gone and you're left with even less to give it a go next season.

With the race to tank heating up, I think you'll see a pretty robust buyout market, and of course there are trade possibilities. I think the roster will look different in February, when it starts to matter.

[Its DJOver]

Anyone remember how those Celtics looked in early December last season? 

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2022_standings_by_date_eastern_conference.html

Lots of ball to be played.

[wadesworld]

The Bucks roster moves are adding Middleton and Joe Ingles.  They'll be just fine.

[The Sultan]

Let me be clear:  I would absolutely hate to see the Celtics carve teams apart in the playoffs, especially the Bucks.  But right now they look like they're clearly the better team.  The Bucks should have all hands on deck and make the proper counter moves ASAP.

The trade deadline isn't until early February. The Bucks will see how things run at full strength, see how injuries play out, and make moves around that time.  No need to make panic decisions based on current needs that may not actually be needs 5-6 months from now.

[MU82]

Let me be clear:  I would absolutely hate to see the Celtics carve teams apart in the playoffs, especially the Bucks.  But right now they look like they're clearly the better team.

And again, a year ago, the Suns clearly looked like the best team in the NBA, one that was coming off a Finals appearance, and seemed destined for multiple NBA championships.

It's a long season. The Bucks (and others) have 2 months before they need to even think seriously about doing anything. And unlike the Celtics, the Bucks have 3 All-Stars and several role players with championship rings. This isn't their first rodeo.

[MuggsyB]

Well, I know I can be an alarmist but from what I've seen the Bucks are not where they need to be yet.  Obviously it will take a couple of more games for Middleton.  We'll see how they respond to a tougher part of their schedule and on the road. 

[MUfan12]

Well, I know I can be an alarmist but from what I've seen the Bucks are not where they need to be yet.

They're on a 60 win pace!

The. Bucks. Are. Fine.

[wadesworld]

Well, I know I can be an alarmist but from what I've seen the Bucks are not where they need to be yet.  Obviously it will take a couple of more games for Middleton.  We'll see how they respond to a tougher part of their schedule and on the road.

Correct.  Their second best player has played 3 games, and a guy who might end up starting for them hasn't suited up yet.  And they're still 18-6.

[WhiteTrash]

And again, a year ago, the Suns clearly looked like the best team in the NBA, one that was coming off a Finals appearance, and seemed destined for multiple NBA championships.

It's a long season. The Bucks (and others) have 2 months before they need to even think seriously about doing anything. And unlike the Celtics, the Bucks have 3 All-Stars and several role players with championship rings. This isn't their first rodeo.

And a year ago the Bulls had the best record in the East. 'Tis a long season for sure.

[MuggsyB]

Budenholzer looks extremely upset.  Giannis not getting calls at the rim tonight. 

[MuggsyB]

Wow....crazy win for the Bucks!  Dallas 10-24 from the FT line. 

[rocket surgeon]

looked like luka was going to need some consoling in the locker room.  that loss wiped the smirk right off his face

  brooks is showing to be a defensive iron curtain

  middleton is back

  our macnutpuncher has humbled and is playing some nice ball for a dooky ey?

[GB Warrior]

Even though the Mavs gifted that game with their FT shooting (which no matta), the Bucks are fine.

Middleton is still working his way back, and their defense is still elite. We'll see what Ingles has left, but he has the potential to unlock the 2nd unit.

I don't know exactly how they'll get better at the deadline; Allen has acquitted himself well and is a valuable piece to trade.

His worst match-up is the Celtics, which still makes him the most likely move.

[MuggsyB]

Even though the Mavs gifted that game with their FT shooting (which no matta), the Bucks are fine.

Middleton is still working his way back, and their defense is still elite. We'll see what Ingles has left, but he has the potential to unlock the 2nd unit.

I don't know exactly how they'll get better at the deadline; Allen has acquitted himself well and is a valuable piece to trade.

His worst match-up is the Celtics, which still makes him the most likely move.

They  have their toughest test of the season coming up.  At New Orleans, at Memphis, at Cleveland, at Boston. 

[WhiteTrash]

Would the Buck's be a buyer at the soon to be Bull's 'Going Out of Business' sale?

[Jockey]

Would the Buck's be a buyer at the soon to be Bull's 'Going Out of Business' sale?

Caruso would be the only guy.

[MuggsyB]

Allen actually played pretty well last night.  If Ingles can get back and drain threes that could help.  I know statistically the Bucks are good defensively but could they make a move for an additional defender on Tatum or Embiid?

[WhiteTrash]

Caruso would be the only guy.

I think he could really help a team like the Bucks. Does the little things you need for a championship.