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PGsHeroes32

Quote from: wadesworld on August 24, 2022, 10:14:59 PM
I'm extremely confident that if you asked every NBA GM who they'd pick to build a championship team and you said either KD or Draymond, they'd laugh their ass off.

I don't know or care if you're trying to rip Durant or not. What I do know is your takes are absolutely awful. Because Draymond has never played without Klay and Steph you think he's a more important basketball player than a guy who is unquestionably a top 5 player of this generation. It's hysterical how dumb your arguments are.

If you put Draymond on the Nets this year and KD on the Warriors this year, I feel very confident the Warriors win a title and the Nets don't even compete.

That's even generous.

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Pakuni

Chet Holmgren out for the year.
Ouch

MuggsyB

Quote from: wadesworld on August 24, 2022, 10:14:59 PM
I'm extremely confident that if you asked every NBA GM who they'd pick to build a championship team and you said either KD or Draymond, they'd laugh their ass off.

I don't know or care if you're trying to rip Durant or not. What I do know is your takes are absolutely awful. Because Draymond has never played without Klay and Steph you think he's a more important basketball player than a guy who is unquestionably a top 5 player of this generation. It's hysterical how dumb your arguments are.

If you put Draymond on the Nets this year and KD on the Warriors this year, I feel very confident the Warriors win a title and the Nets don't even compete.

I don't see a response.  Perhaps Jockey is reexamining his position and overall hoops knowledge? 

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on August 25, 2022, 09:15:54 AM
Chet Holmgren out for the year.
Ouch

Big guy with a foot injury is like a home run hitter with a back injury.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Pakuni on August 25, 2022, 09:15:54 AM
Chet Holmgren out for the year.
Ouch

Ouch.  Freaking Brutal. 

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 25, 2022, 10:04:26 AM
Big guy with a foot injury is like a home run hitter with a back injury.

Maybe. Joel Embiid turned out OK. Greg Oden, not so much.

MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on August 25, 2022, 10:17:19 AM
Maybe. Joel Embiid turned out OK. Greg Oden, not so much.

I actually thought about those two (and Sam Bowie) this morning when I heard the news.

Hope for Chet that his case is more like Embiid, and not like Oden/Bowie.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

StillAWarrior

Quote from: Pakuni on August 25, 2022, 09:15:54 AM
Chet Holmgren out for the year.
Ouch

Man, that sucks. Hope he heals well.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on August 25, 2022, 10:18:51 AM
I actually thought about those two (and Sam Bowie) this morning when I heard the news.

Hope for Chet that his case is more like Embiid, and not like Oden/Bowie.

Without a college degree, what's he going to do?
Guster is for Lovers

Jockey

Quote from: wadesworld on August 24, 2022, 10:14:59 PM
I'm extremely confident that if you asked every NBA GM who they'd pick to build a championship team and you said either KD or Draymond, they'd laugh their ass off.

I don't know or care if you're trying to rip Durant or not. What I do know is your takes are absolutely awful. Because Draymond has never played without Klay and Steph you think he's a more important basketball player than a guy who is unquestionably a top 5 player of this generation. It's hysterical how dumb your arguments are.

If you put Draymond on the Nets this year and KD on the Warriors this year, I feel very confident the Warriors win a title and the Nets don't even compete.

Yes, if I was building a team I would take Durant over Green. It's a no-brainer.

But Green is a better fit for a great shooting team like GS. They don't win all those titles without his defense.

When Durant leads as team to a title, I will concede that you are right.

jficke13

Gotta bounce back by year 6 like O'Tule.

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 25, 2022, 10:21:25 AM
Without a college degree, what's he going to do?

I heard he's lazy.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 25, 2022, 10:37:43 AM
I doubt it.  He's a white kid

Gym rat.
Coach's kid.
Sneaky athletic.
Scrappy.
High IQ player.
Traditional.

The Sultan

He will be fine - he plays the game the right way.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on August 25, 2022, 10:28:39 AM
Yes, if I was building a team I would take Durant over Green. It's a no-brainer.

But Green is a better fit for a great shooting team like GS. They don't win all those titles without his defense.

When Durant leads as team to a title, I will concede that you are right.

Alright I'll let you know when he wins his first Finals MVP like Draymond. Wait, nevermind.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on August 25, 2022, 10:58:51 AM
Gym rat.
Coach's kid.
Sneaky athletic.
Scrappy.
High IQ player.
Traditional.

Bad coaching held him back.  A letter may have helped
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 25, 2022, 10:37:43 AM
I doubt it.  He's a white kid

Good point. Thanks for the correction.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

The front court of Chet, Wembanyama, and Giddey in a couple years is going to be so goofy.

MU82

To get enshrined in the school's Hall of Fame, Davidson requires athletes to have degrees.

Steph Curry finally got his this year, and yesterday he was both enshrined in the Davidson HoF and had his number retired.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

The Cavs apparently snagged Donovan Mitchell.  But they gave up a ton.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 01, 2022, 06:35:27 PM
The Cavs apparently snagged Donovan Mitchell.  But they gave up a ton.

I like what they've done in Cleveland.  Not good enough to win a title but interesting enough that some star may think they can and might join in
Guster is for Lovers

JWags85

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 01, 2022, 06:35:27 PM
The Cavs apparently snagged Donovan Mitchell.  But they gave up a ton.

See I disagree.  I think this is a rare "star" trade where both teams win.  Cavs send Sexton (who was secondary at the PG to Garland), Lauri (who is owed another $65MM and probably wouldn't start this year), and a rookie, plus picks years from now, not even in the next 2 drafts, when you'd hope to be picking in the 20s anyway.  They have tons of young talent, they don't need a bunch more picks if they get a alpha scorer.

Jazz add more picks.  Now 15 first rounders in the next 7-8 years.  Plus Conley will probably be moved too.  Ainge is wheeling and dealing.

Man the Cavs got attractive in a HURRY.  Garland, Mitchell, Mobley is a great trio.  Allen is good interior anchor.  And maybe Caris Levert gets back to his 18-20 level in an off the bench role like Jordan Clarkson.  AND they get another $30MM a year coming off the books next year when Kevin Love retires.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 01, 2022, 06:53:01 PM
I like what they've done in Cleveland.  Not good enough to win a title but interesting enough that some star may think they can and might join in

This is as deep an NBA as I can ever remember.  Garland/Mitchell is certainly interesting.

MuggsyB

Quote from: JWags85 on September 01, 2022, 07:03:57 PM
See I disagree.  I think this is a rare "star" trade where both teams win.  Cavs send Sexton (who was secondary at the PG to Garland), Lauri (who is owed another $65MM and probably wouldn't start this year), and a rookie, plus picks years from now, not even in the next 2 drafts, when you'd hope to be picking in the 20s anyway.  They have tons of young talent, they don't need a bunch more picks if they get a alpha scorer.

Jazz add more picks.  Now 15 first rounders in the next 7-8 years.  Plus Conley will probably be moved too.  Ainge is wheeling and dealing.

Man the Cavs got attractive in a HURRY.  Garland, Mitchell, Mobley is a great trio.  Allen is good interior anchor.  And maybe Caris Levert gets back to his 18-20 level in an off the bench role like Jordan Clarkson.  AND they get another $30MM a year coming off the books next year when Kevin Love retires.

The question ultimately comes down to whether they are now good enough to be a title contender or not?   I think they're certainly intriguing but not good enough to be in the mix for a ring.

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