Protecting the Constitution

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

To the extent that anybody says they want this outcome, I guarantee they have not thought through the implications of such a ruling.

Like democrats actually showing up to the polls for a midterm election for a change.

[Dickthedribbler]

Hopefully, Thomas will die sooner than later

Nice.

[muwarrior69]

To the extent that anybody says they want this outcome, I guarantee they have not thought through the implications of such a ruling.

Actually as Alito says there is a great deal of gray area that the courts will hash out.

https://time.com/6191886/fetal-personhood-laws-roe-abortion/

[muwarrior69]

You have such a fundamental lack of understanding on this issue. Most Constitutional rights are implied through Supreme Court decisions. They aren't explicitly stated anywhere. So by that standard, a whole bunch of rights would need to be rescinded in your eyes. Perhaps you should learn a little bit more about constitutional law?

And yes, a woman's right to choose to have an abortion was considered a Constitutional right for 50 years. You may not like that right, but it was a right nevertheless.

Well 5 Justices on the Supreme Court agree with Rocket so who exactly has a fundamental misunderstanding on this issue? Oh! They have the last word and all the screaming and shouting is not going to change their opinion which is the only opinion that counts.

I would encourage you go out and vote and elect people that agree with you as the Court has instructed.

[MUBurrow]

Actually as Alito says there is a great deal of gray area that the courts will hash out.

https://time.com/6191886/fetal-personhood-laws-roe-abortion/

"Just calling balls and strikes."

[The Sultan]

Well 5 Justices on the Supreme Court agree with Rocket so who exactly has a fundamental misunderstanding on this issue?

Rocket does. If you would bother following along with the topic you would see what I am talking about.  A right doesn't have to be explicitly stated for it to be considered a Constitutional right. For instance, interracial marriage is considered a Constitutional right even though it isn't stated specifically in the document. And for 50 years, a woman's right to choose was considered a Constitutional right through the same process.

That five justices now take a different viewpoint, and have decided to rescind that right, is not really relevant to the truth in the above paragraph.

Do you understand now? Or are you going to come back with something else silly?

[Pakuni]

Well 5 Justices on the Supreme Court agree with Rocket so who exactly has a fundamental misunderstanding on this issue? Oh! They have the last word and all the screaming and shouting is not going to change their opinion which is the only opinion that counts.

More than a dozen justices on the Supreme Court disagree with rocket.
And, as we now see with Dobbs, Supreme Court justices don't have the last word after all. These five justices' lack of respect for precedence opens the door for future courts swinging this issue back and forth in perpetuity.

[jficke13]

Well 5 Justices on the Supreme Court agree with Rocket so who exactly has a fundamental misunderstanding on this issue? Oh! They have the last word and all the screaming and shouting is not going to change their opinion which is the only opinion that counts.

I would encourage you go out and vote and elect people that agree with you as the Court has instructed.

I don't think you're appreciating what I'm saying here. I have not offered an opinion on whether the Court should answer the question of extending equal protection to the "unborn," whether they will be asked to rule on such a thing, or even whether such a thing is good or bad. I'm saying that people who are, for example, on message boards suggesting that such a thing should happen have not really gamed out what the consequences of such a ruling would really be.

[CountryRoads]

Not sure if it's been posted on here but here's a pretty freezing cold take from our radio announcer:

https://twitter.com/crackedsidewlks/status/1542240751228174337?s=21&t=duwar-6dly5yu33dZzWGgA

Fwiw, I think we should have gotten rid of Homer years ago because he's always just been horrible. If I'm not available to be in front of a TV during a game, I'd rather refresh game scores online than listen to him (that actually has nothing to do with the tweet I linked).

[Uncle Rico]

Not sure if it's been posted on here but here's a pretty freezing cold take from our radio announcer:

https://twitter.com/crackedsidewlks/status/1542240751228174337?s=21&t=duwar-6dly5yu33dZzWGgA

Fwiw, I think we should have gotten rid of Homer years ago because he's always just been horrible. If I'm not available to be in front of a TV during a game, I'd rather refresh game scores online than listen to him (that actually has nothing to do with the tweet I linked).

Everyone knows slavery was about states rights

[Skatastrophy]

The alt-right supreme court strikes again. Today giving states' expanded powers to enforce laws on reservations for the first time in 200 years. The dissent (Gorsuch-R) states:

"If the Court's ruling today sounds like a legislative committee report touting the benefits of some newly proposed bill, that's because it is exactly that. And given that a nine- member court is a poor substitute for the people's elected representatives, it is no surprise that the Court's cost- benefit analysis is radically incomplete. The Court's decision is not a judicial interpretation of the law's meaning; it is the pastiche of a legislative process.

Truly, a more ahistorical and mistaken statement of Indian law would be hard to fathom."

[The Sultan]

Not sure if it's been posted on here but here's a pretty freezing cold take from our radio announcer:

https://twitter.com/crackedsidewlks/status/1542240751228174337?s=21&t=duwar-6dly5yu33dZzWGgA

Fwiw, I think we should have gotten rid of Homer years ago because he's always just been horrible. If I'm not available to be in front of a TV during a game, I'd rather refresh game scores online than listen to him (that actually has nothing to do with the tweet I linked).

He's since deleted it. But man that is just a terrible take.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

The alt-right supreme court strikes again. Today giving states' expanded powers to enforce laws on reservations for the first time in 200 years. The dissent (Gorsuch-R) states:

"If the Court's ruling today sounds like a legislative committee report touting the benefits of some newly proposed bill, that's because it is exactly that. And given that a nine- member court is a poor substitute for the people's elected representatives, it is no surprise that the Court's cost- benefit analysis is radically incomplete. The Court's decision is not a judicial interpretation of the law's meaning; it is the pastiche of a legislative process.

Truly, a more ahistorical and mistaken statement of Indian law would be hard to fathom."

Activist judges.

Every accusation from the right is a confession.

[mu_hilltopper]

I'm pretty dumb, can someone explain Homer's reply, the meme, and the outrage?

Not teal.

[JWags85]

Not sure if it's been posted on here but here's a pretty freezing cold take from our radio announcer:

https://twitter.com/crackedsidewlks/status/1542240751228174337?s=21&t=duwar-6dly5yu33dZzWGgA

Fwiw, I think we should have gotten rid of Homer years ago because he's always just been horrible. If I'm not available to be in front of a TV during a game, I'd rather refresh game scores online than listen to him (that actually has nothing to do with the tweet I linked).

Homer is fine.  He's not Vin Scully but he's solid.  Radio PBP is not easy and its not like there are countless marquee radio PBP guys that are going to be fixed to a college team in a non-major market.  He was great with Thompson, good with Mac, and pretty good with Tony Smith.

I feel like people's dislike of his political views or his mediocre radio show bleed into their perception of him as a PBP guy.

[Pakuni]

I'm pretty dumb, can someone explain Homer's reply, the meme, and the outrage?

Not teal.

It seems someone made a meme comparing abortion to slavery, with the point of contention being people not seeing the fetus/slave as a person.
Homer contradicted said meme because, he claimed, slavery (unlike abortion, one can presume) is not "about murder."

[jficke13]

Homer is fine.  He's not Vin Scully but he's solid.  Radio PBP is not easy and its not like there are countless marquee radio PBP guys that are going to be fixed to a college team in a non-major market.  He was great with Thompson, good with Mac, and pretty good with Tony Smith.

I feel like people's dislike of his political views or his mediocre radio show bleed into their perception of him as a PBP guy.

Yeah I think he's good from tip to buzzer and awful at everything else. I'm told he's very good at charity events working crowds. His radio show is bad even measured against sports radio which is universally awful.

[JWags85]

It seems someone made a meme comparing abortion to slavery, with the point of contention being people not seeing the fetus/slave as a person.
Homer contradicted said meme because, he claimed, slavery (unlike abortion, one can presume) is not "about murder."

I dont think slavery was about murder...but only a myopic fundamentalist would think the abortion debate is either.

[The Sultan]

Homer is fine.  He's not Vin Scully but he's solid.  Radio PBP is not easy and its not like there are countless marquee radio PBP guys that are going to be fixed to a college team in a non-major market.  He was great with Thompson, good with Mac, and pretty good with Tony Smith.

I feel like people's dislike of his political views or his mediocre radio show bleed into their perception of him as a PBP guy.

I haven't listened to him doing PBP for years cause I have a TV.

[Billy Hoyle]

Like democrats actually showing up to the polls for a midterm election for a change.

the internet and social media are not real life. Abortion rights is down the list of priorities for voters heading into the midterms. As long as inflation continues, shelves in stores are empty (my local grocery stores have empty dairy cases right now), and gas prices remain high, abortion is not going to shift the election significantly. As James Carville said while running Bill Clinton's campaign in 1992, "it's the economy, stupid."

[Pakuni]

the internet and social media are not real life. Abortion rights is down the list of priorities for voters heading into the midterms. As long as inflation continues, shelves in stores are empty (my local grocery stores have empty dairy cases right now), and gas prices remain high, abortion is not going to shift the election significantly. As James Carville said while running Bill Clinton's campaign in 1992, "it's the economy, stupid."

This was before the ruling came down.

As the midterm election approaches, most Americans say that the economy, inflation and rising gas prices are the most important issues in determining how they will vote for Congress this November, according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll.

With inflation on the rise since last fall, Americans have been significantly affected by the rising cost of goods and services. And, more than eight in 10 Americans (83%) now say that the economy is either an extremely or very important issue in determining how they will vote, in the latest ABC News/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos' KnowledgePanel.

The poll also found that gun violence (72% saying extremely or very important) and abortion (63%) are also potentially important drivers of the vote. As the nation waits to see if the Supreme Court will overturn Roe v. Wade and Congress considers legislation in the wake of the mass shootings in Buffalo, New York and Uvalde, Texas, these issues stand just below the top tier drivers of the vote.

So, yeah, the economy, as usual, tops the list.
But no, abortion is not "way down there." It's very important to almost two-thirds of voters.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/economic-issues-top-publics-agenda-poll/story?id=85183412

[forgetful]

The Texas AG has already said he will oblige

The same Texas AG who has been facing multiple felonies for years, but is still in office.

[forgetful]

Activist judges.

Every accusation from the right is a confession.

There were discussions about a possible civil war in the future, or secession of states. I think each of these activist decisions makes it more likely. The reasoning:

1. It is clear that the current makeup of the court will continue to disregard the rule of law to establish right-wing, and/or christian ideals and force them on the rest of America. That has already led to SCOTUS being considered a political, not legal entity, that the average American distrusts.

2. With an activist SCOTUS, one of three things will occur. a) America votes in a democratic house and senate by a significant margin. b) We continue to largely have divided rule in congress/house. c) Republicans control all branches.

For 2a) They should and will either pass legislature undoing many of these decisions. If this occurs, I think conservative states will challenge the legislation, and the conservative SCOTUS will rule those new laws unconstitutional. Alternatively, they pack the court. Expand to 13 justices and undo many of these decisions. Conservative states threaten to secede.

For 2b) We further degrade the rule of law, and liberal states move to leave the union.

2c) See 2b. Republicans will codify into law a lot of these new restrictions that strip Americans of their rights and push it even farther towards the religious right. Liberal states decide their is no hope for change and leave the union.

A year ago I would have thought this type of outcome was highly unlikely. But with each decision that has been coming down lately I think it becomes more and more likely that secession occurs.

[rocket surgeon]

This was before the ruling came down.

As the midterm election approaches, most Americans say that the economy, inflation and rising gas prices are the most important issues in determining how they will vote for Congress this November, according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll.

With inflation on the rise since last fall, Americans have been significantly affected by the rising cost of goods and services. And, more than eight in 10 Americans (83%) now say that the economy is either an extremely or very important issue in determining how they will vote, in the latest ABC News/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos' KnowledgePanel.

The poll also found that gun violence (72% saying extremely or very important) and abortion (63%) are also potentially important drivers of the vote. As the nation waits to see if the Supreme Court will overturn Roe v. Wade and Congress considers legislation in the wake of the mass shootings in Buffalo, New York and Uvalde, Texas, these issues stand just below the top tier drivers of the vote.

So, yeah, the economy, as usual, tops the list.
But no, abortion is not "way down there." It's very important to almost two-thirds of voters.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/economic-issues-top-publics-agenda-poll/story?id=85183412

  remember the source(abc along with most of the rest of them) censor the schiff out of anything detrimental to their team. if  the people who brought us the steaming pile of schiff we are living in right now would have reported just 1 or 2 very volatile(but true) stories, we would still have $2 gas

when a drunken driver, for example, runs into a pregnant woman and kills both the woman and her UNBORN BABY, why do they charge the person with 2 counts of murder if it's just a woman with a "clump of cells" in her tummy??

[forgetful]

  remember the source(abc along with most of the rest of them) censor the schiff out of anything detrimental to their team. if  the people who brought us the steaming pile of schiff we are living in right now would have reported just 1 or 2 very volatile(but true) stories, we would still have $2 gas

when a drunken driver, for example, runs into a pregnant woman and kills both the woman and her UNBORN BABY, why do they charge the person with 2 counts of murder if it's just a woman with a "clump of cells" in her tummy??

If you think that who is president is affecting the price of gas right now, then you have zero understanding of economics, and gas prices.