Justin

[GoldenEagles03]

I wouldn't call that team chemistry. It's the offseason. NIL will absolutely lead to some players transferring to other schools in search of a bigger pay day.

This particular case seems to lack the culture of retention.  Wong took a Miami team that had no business advancing, to the Elite 8.

Miami pays someone else to come in and are content with just ditching Wong?

I guess it's all a learning curve with NIL and stuff like this will probably happen every year.

[muwarrior69]

It's not the least bit problematic to me, Tony. They are college students who now have the same rights that all the other college students have. I'm glad they're getting a great "deal." They work hard to entertain us, and to bring respect and money to their universities, and they deserve it. If it results in some of them bringing respect and money to more than one university, that's cool too. It's nice to see the young men and women who make high-level college sports possible finally get a small slice of the pie - and yes, even $1 million is a small slice relative to the size of the pie.

So they're no longer playing for Marquette or any University, they are playing for themselves. As an alum I root for my school and I just don't see any upside for Marquette in all of this. I may be wrong but my gut is telling me otherwise; unless there is someone out there to offer players 800k to play for Marquette and then are they really playing for Marquette.

[MuggsyB]

So they're no longer playing for Marquette or any University, they are playing for themselves. As an alum I root for my school and I just don't see any upside for Marquette in all of this. I may be wrong but my gut is telling me otherwise; unless there is someone out there to offer players 800k to play for Marquette and then are they really playing for Marquette.

I have similar concerns.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So they're no longer playing for Marquette or any University, they are playing for themselves. As an alum I root for my school and I just don't see any upside for Marquette in all of this. I may be wrong but my gut is telling me otherwise; unless there is someone out there to offer players 800k to play for Marquette and then are they really playing for Marquette.

Yes they would really be playing for Marquette.

There might not be an upside for Marquette. NIL is still good for the sport and more importantly it was the right and ethical thing to do

[Uncle Rico]

So they're no longer playing for Marquette or any University, they are playing for themselves. As an alum I root for my school and I just don't see any upside for Marquette in all of this. I may be wrong but my gut is telling me otherwise; unless there is someone out there to offer players 800k to play for Marquette and then are they really playing for Marquette.

Then let the school know you want them to drop scholarships and adopt the Ivy League model.  I'm sure plenty of DIII leagues would take Marquette.

[brewcity77]

So they're no longer playing for Marquette or any University, they are playing for themselves. As an alum I root for my school and I just don't see any upside for Marquette in all of this. I may be wrong but my gut is telling me otherwise; unless there is someone out there to offer players 800k to play for Marquette and then are they really playing for Marquette.

When you went to class, were you just doing it to bring glory to Marquette? Or did you maybe use what you learned at Marquette to make a career that helped yourself?

[MU82]

So they're no longer playing for Marquette or any University, they are playing for themselves. As an alum I root for my school and I just don't see any upside for Marquette in all of this. I may be wrong but my gut is telling me otherwise; unless there is someone out there to offer players 800k to play for Marquette and then are they really playing for Marquette.

You're really on a roll with this stuff.

Keep losing sleep about things that haven't happened and that might not happen, OK? It's good for the heart.

[wadesworld]

Seems like he's wong gone.

You appear to be wong.

[MuggsyB]

So, do we expect to hear about JLew by the end of this weekend? 

[brewcity77]

So, do we expect to hear about JLew by the end of this weekend?

If he's not in the portal by Monday, it's either NBA or Marquette. FWIW he just posted a new Uncle Buck's ad on his Insta.

[Viper]

Yes they would really be playing for Marquette.

There might not be an upside for Marquette. NIL is still good for the sport and more importantly it was the right and ethical thing to do

ethical? You had me until you lost me

[muwarrior69]

You're really on a roll with this stuff.

Keep losing sleep about things that haven't happened and that might not happen, OK? It's good for the heart.

It is already happening. Wang might leave or stay at Miami for more money; and Marquette basketball is the last thing I would leave sleep over. I will savor our only National Championship as it will take a miracle or a lot of cash just to have a chance at winning another one.

[muwarrior69]

Yes they would really be playing for Marquette.

There might not be an upside for Marquette. NIL is still good for the sport and more importantly it was the right and ethical thing to do

...and the administration will do to basketball what they did to football in 1960 because it was just too expensive to field a competitive team at the high D1 level.

[Uncle Rico]

...and the administration will do to basketball what they did to football in 1960 because it was just too expensive to field a competitive team.

So be it

[Shooter McGavin]

...and the administration will do to basketball what they did to football in 1960 because it was just too expensive to field a competitive team.

Obviously that is the worst case scenario.  Third or fourth class citizen is more likely.  And you are right about no NC aspirations.  MU needs to be a player in NIL or many of us will no longer have a true rooting interest in CBB tens years down the road.

Come on MU! 

[muwarrior69]

Obviously that is the worst case scenario.  Third or fourth class citizen is more likely.  And you are right about no NC aspirations.  MU needs to be a player in NIL or many of us will no longer have a true rooting interest in CBB tens years down the road.

Come on MU!

I hope I am around ten years down the road to see if you guys are right and I am wrong.

[Herman Cain]

If he's not in the portal by Monday, it's either NBA or Marquette. FWIW he just posted a new Uncle Buck's ad on his Insta.

Justin's Ad
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc3gK3-paeZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[Scoop Snoop]

muwarrior69

In the past week alone, you have 23 posts on this just this thread, yet you state that Marquette basketball is the last thing you would lose sleep over.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

...and the administration will do to basketball what they did to football in 1960 because it was just too expensive to field a competitive team at the high D1 level.

Approximately 320ish teams would fold before Marquette did. Are you predicting the end of college basketball?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

ethical? You had me until you lost me

You think artificially limiting individuals income from hundreds of thousands to zero is ethical?  Sounds like socialism to me

[Lennys Tap]

It's not the least bit problematic to me, Tony. They are college students who now have the same rights that all the other college students have. I'm glad they're getting a great "deal." They work hard to entertain us, and to bring respect and money to their universities, and they deserve it. If it results in some of them bringing respect and money to more than one university, that's cool too. It's nice to see the young men and women who make high-level college sports possible finally get a small slice of the pie - and yes, even $1 million is a small slice relative to the size of the pie.

D1 scholarship athletes receive a lot of privileges not afforded to other college students. Special privileges often come with some restrictions and responsibilities. Any college athlete who wants to give up those privileges and become just a "regular college student" can do so at any time. Now that college athletes have officially and openly become professionals why shouldn't they be treated as such? I'm not saying they should be drafted out of high school but 2 shots at free agency by the time they're 19 or 20 seems over the top. Letting Kentucky throw money at our players every year is one thing. Letting them do it without any transfer restrictions is another.

[brewcity77]

You think artificially limiting individuals income from hundreds of thousands to zero is ethical?  Sounds like socialism to me

No, that's not socialism. Socialism would be sharing that revenue between the institution and all the athletes, not just the one signing the deal. That would've been a perfectly acceptable alternative had it been suggested before all the NIL legislation went into effect.

This was more like indentured servitude, at best.

[muwarrior69]

Approximately 320ish teams would fold before Marquette did. Are you predicting the end of college basketball?

OK, hyperbole on my part; but I still believe that it would take a miracle or a lot of cash for Marquette to have a chance at winning a NC and I don't see the administration spending as much money on Basketball as they do now if we are not competitive to compete to win a NC. It is the main reason I watch and root for the team is that we always had a shot even under Crean and Buzz. Shaka may be great coach, but if he can't keep players because there "greener pastures" for the players elsewhere it will be difficult to put a competitive team on the floor. Maybe there are sponsors out there, just have to wait and see. No doubt NIL is good for the athletes, but that does not necessarily translate to being good for Marquette basketball.

[muwarrior69]

muwarrior69

In the past week alone, you have 23 posts on this just this thread, yet you state that Marquette basketball is the last thing you would lose sleep over.

OK, second to last thing.

[Shooter McGavin]

OK, hyperbole on my part; but I still believe that it would take a miracle or a lot of cash for Marquette to have a chance at winning a NC and I don't see the administration spending as much money on Basketball as they do now if we are not competitive to compete to win a NC. It is the main reason I watch and root for the team is that we always had a shot even under Crean and Buzz. Shaka may be great coach, but if he can't keep players because there "greener pastures" for the players elsewhere it will be difficult to put a competitive team on the floor. Maybe there are sponsors out there, just have to wait and see. No doubt NIL is good for the athletes, but that does not necessarily translate to being good for Marquette basketball.

Anyone who wants MU to succeed at the highest level has this in the back of their minds.  Some in the forefront.  We'll see if MUBB organizers and donors step up.  If they don't we'll all be on our favorite pro team's scoop page and not this one in a few years.  And our alma mater will have lost some of it luster.  It's definitely not in MUs best interest to let basketball fail.