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[Dr. Blackheart]

I started to look forward to next year after getting taunted in the McCormick Place parking garage by DePaul fans after that hot steamer.

A good transition year, now get the talent in to match the system, and finally, have the coaching staff take a hard grading, honest self assessment on their performance. I see too much stubborn Wojo in Shaka so far, which goes back to his previous end of year flame outs.

[4everwarriors]

Frankly, eye'm fein wit purgin' da rooster of all remainin' Woj playas, hey?

[BM1090]

Frankly, eye'm fein wit purgin' da rooster of all remainin' Woj playas, hey?

Except it was largely due to Wojo's players that we overachieved this year. And some of our best projected returners are Wojo guys.

[4everwarriors]

IMO, the sooner Shaka has complete control over his roster, the sooner we get Uptown, hey?

[Scoop Snoop]

I started to look forward to next year after getting taunted in the McCormick Place parking garage by DePaul fans after that hot steamer.

A good transition year, now get the talent in to match the system, and finally, have the coaching staff take a hard grading, honest self assessment on their performance. I see too much stubborn Wojo in Shaka so far, which goes back to his previous end of year flame outs.

Interesting. I would appreciate learning more about this remark. Could you please explain a bit more with specifics?

I have been suspicious that there has been some sort of internal tension within the team that is partially responsible for the long slide. I have absolutely no evidence. It's just a wild guess. Your thoughts?

[willie warrior]

Frankly, eye'm fein wit purgin' da rooster of all remainin' Woj playas, hey?

Clear the decks

[Shooter McGavin]

Interesting. I would appreciate learning more about this remark. Could you please explain a bit more with specifics?

I have been suspicious that there has been some sort of internal tension within the team that is partially responsible for the long slide. I have absolutely no evidence. It's just a wild guess. Your thoughts?

There is not internal tension.

We are now fully scouted and in many instances (starting five) have to play 3 on 5 on offense for large portions of the game.  If our "three" aren't fully on we will lose.  It also makes the defense suffer.  Our rebounding makes things worse.  What happened against NC was a worst case scenario but unfortunately is likely against a better team who's playing well.

Shaka did a great job coaching this roster to the tournament and should be applauded for that. Give him a chance to fill the gaps.  This spring/summer is huge!  We will know shortly how this will play out for next year. 

[4everwarriors]

Shaka did an incredible job given the lack of big time talent on this team, aina?

[willie warrior]

There is not internal tension.

We are now fully scouted and in many instances (starting five) have to play 3 on 5 on offense for large portions of the game.  If our "three" aren't fully on we will lose.  It also makes the defense suffer.  Our rebounding makes things worse.  What happened against NC was a worst case scenario but unfortunately is likely against a better team who's playing well.

Shaka did a great job coaching this roster to the tournament and should be applauded for that. Give him a chance to fill the gaps.  This spring/summer is huge!  We will know shortly how this will play out for next year.

Don't we already know? We know about the limited talent returning
We know the recruits coming in are 3 stars.
We know that we will have to hope and pray the returning talent must improve SIGNIFICANTLY, even though a number of them regressed as year went on
What else do we need to know?

[The Sultan]

Don't we already know? We know about the limited talent returning
We know the recruits coming in are 3 stars.
We know that we will have to hope and pray the returning talent must improve SIGNIFICANTLY, even though a number of them regressed as year went on
What else do we need to know?

Transfers both in and out.

[willie warrior]

Transfers both in and out.

Dont see much in portal and are we going to bring any studs in from that? Because the ones we brought in this season did not pan out according to many here. But there is always that standby mantra of there is next year to hope about.

[Uncle Rico]

Dont see much in portal and are we going to bring any studs in from that? Because the ones we brought in this season did not pan out according to many here. But there is always that standby mantra of there is next year to hope about.

Did the portal close yesterday?  Wow, big news. 

[Shooter McGavin]

Shaka did an incredible job given the lack of big time talent on this team, aina?

Yep

[Scoop Snoop]

There is not internal tension.

We are now fully scouted and in many instances (starting five) have to play 3 on 5 on offense for large portions of the game.  If our "three" aren't fully on we will lose.  It also makes the defense suffer.  Our rebounding makes things worse.  What happened against NC was a worst case scenario but unfortunately is likely against a better team who's playing well.

Shaka did a great job coaching this roster to the tournament and should be applauded for that. Give him a chance to fill the gaps.  This spring/summer is huge!  We will know shortly how this will play out for next year.

Oh, I do not challenge the argument stated here repeatedly that the other coaches have figured us out. I just do not believe it is the only reason for our decline, but to be fair, you did not say that it was. Shaka did do a great job getting this team into the tourney. Question remain as to why measures could not be taken to adjust, even in midseason. And yes, easier said than done. But were we/Shaka completely helpless to stem the tide? That's really what I'm asking.

What I asked of Dr. B was an explanation of why and where he saw stubbornness in Shaka.

I also added my wild guess that there may have been some dissension within the team. The '18-19' team almost certainly had "internal tension" before the infamous letter, and their late season performance was clearly off. I think on that basis alone, it's not a totally unwarranted guess.

[willie warrior]

Did the portal close yesterday?  Wow, big news.

Your point? Right now there isn't much talent there and likely no studs will be there. And if there were could Shaka land them especially after the colossal ass kicking we took. Sorry if I pissed on your parade

[Uncle Rico]

Your point? Right now there isn't much talent there and likely no studs will be there. And if there were could Shaka land them especially after the colossal ass kicking we took. Sorry if I pissed on your parade

That's a good point.  Not sure any kids will want to play for Shaka because of one game. 

[Shooter McGavin]

I guess my contention is that we had limited options to counter the moves by the better teams.  I don't think other coaches could have done better with this group. 

[MU82]

That's a good point.  Not sure any kids will want to play for Shaka because of one game.

Yep. It's sad that Shaka won't be able to point to having turned a 13-win team into an NCAAT participant in one season, or to the 2 wins over Nova, or to wins over numerous other quality teams, or to having a track record of giving PT to whoever deserves it regardless of whether or not they're new to the team, or to running an offense that gives the green light to any shooter.

The only thing "studs" will care about is the UNC loss.

We're doomed, not just next season but forever and ever.

[Uncle Rico]

Yep. It's sad that Shaka won't be able to point to having turned a 13-win team into an NCAAT participant in one season, or to the 2 wins over Nova, or to wins over numerous other quality teams, or to having a track record of giving PT to whoever deserves it regardless of whether or not they're new to the team, or to running an offense that gives the green light to any shooter.

The only thing "studs" will care about is the UNC loss.

We're doomed, not just next season but forever and ever.

I fear a mass exodus of players

[Farley36]

Interesting how we the same conversation is now occurring every off season.  Realists who see that nothing has changed and the future is bleak and delusional scoopers who continue to point to next year as the start of the great rebirth of Marquette basketball.  Yet next year never seems to pan out.  You all will be spouting the same excuses next off season.  Soon enough it will be 15 or 20 years since the last NCAA win and you still be making excuses.

[BLWarrior91]

Seton Hall lost by almost as us and they were the 8 seed rather than the 9.  Both teams were humiliated, but at least we weren't favored.  Plus North Carolina beating Baylor today helps.

[Uncle Rico]

Interesting how we the same conversation is now occurring every off season.  Realists who see that nothing has changed and the future is bleak and delusional scoopers who continue to point to next year as the start of the great rebirth of Marquette basketball.  Yet next year never seems to pan out.  You all will be spouting the same excuses next off season.  Soon enough it will be 15 or 20 years since the last NCAA win and you still be making excuses.

Cool story, bro. 

[Farley36]

Seton Hall lost by almost as us and they were the 8 seed rather than the 9.  Both teams were humiliated, but at least we weren't favored.  Plus North Carolina beating Baylor today helps.

Yes, let's aim to be just like Seton Hall.   Used to be we could look down on the Hall.  Not anymore.

[Farley36]

Cool story, bro.

Tell me you're a 70 year old Boomer without saying you're a 70 year old Boomer.

[Uncle Rico]

Tell me you're a 70 year old Boomer without saying you're a 70 year old Boomer.

Keep going, pal.  Maybe someday you'll achieve your dream of having posters on scoop be as angry as you and you'll be vindicated.  It's a heckuva dream but keep plugging away and you could get there!