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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #975 on: April 16, 2022, 09:12:07 AM »
I hope we make some big splash additions.  If we don't, and especially if Justin leaves, we aren't going to be very good next year.

This may indeed be a step-back year for Shaka like it was at Texas to set his foundation in place. He has said repeatedly since he took the MU job that it's most important to set the culture in the first three years. You don't set a culture by bringing in a slew of transfers every year to play over recruited guys

Obviously MU has needs and slots open but as Shaka said, don't expect big splashes.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #976 on: April 16, 2022, 10:07:31 AM »
Pretty early to wave the “step-back-year” flags.  COLE is strong.

This may indeed be a step-back year for Shaka like it was at Texas to set his foundation in place. He has said repeatedly since he took the MU job that it's most important to set the culture in the first three years. You don't set a culture by bringing in a slew of transfers every year to play over recruited guys

Obviously MU has needs and slots open but as Shaka said, don't expect big splashes.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #977 on: April 16, 2022, 11:01:31 AM »
Wrightsil is a big meh from me. Think Washington would be the kind of impact player we need. Let’s hope he makes it to his visit

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #978 on: April 16, 2022, 11:02:08 AM »
Pretty early to wave the “step-back-year” flags.  COLE is strong.

Or you just look at what’s returning and what’s coming in and realize a lot has to go right to be a top 5 BE team again.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #979 on: April 16, 2022, 11:39:44 AM »
Final expectations for next year's season will be based on how much you think players currently on the roster or already incoming develop and improve.  Just listen to Shaka.

If you think Osa, Keeyan, Gold, OMP and Joplin will be enough up front.   If Kolek, Mitchell, Kam, Sean, Chase, and EE are good enough guards.

  A forward better than Justin is not transferring in.  A big better than Kur is unlikely.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #980 on: April 16, 2022, 11:52:58 AM »
Final expectations for next year's season will be based on how much you think players currently on the roster or already incoming develop and improve.  Just listen to Shaka.

If you think Osa, Keeyan, Gold, OMP and Joplin will be enough up front.   If Kolek, Mitchell, Kam, Sean, Chase, and EE are good enough guards.

  A forward better than Justin is not transferring in.  A big better than Kur is unlikely.

The cult of lowered expectations is raising its ugly head around here today.
After a season in which many preached that no one should expect anything because it was a rebuilding/culture building season, now we're being told to expect a step back season and to accept that outgoing players won't be replaced with players of equal or better ability.
Hmmm.
And no, MU is not likely to get a forward better than Lewis in the transfer market, but if "better than Kur" is a bridge too far ... yikes.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #981 on: April 16, 2022, 11:59:06 AM »
Yeah I think even with just adding ZW with no Justin we will still be a fringe tournament team.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #982 on: April 16, 2022, 12:04:11 PM »
The cult of lowered expectations is raising its ugly head around here today.
After a season in which many preached that no one should expect anything because it was a rebuilding/culture building season, now we're being told to expect a step back season and to accept that outgoing players won't be replaced with players of equal or better ability.
Hmmm.
And no, MU is not likely to get a forward better than Lewis in the transfer market, but if "better than Kur" is a bridge too far ... yikes.
I think there will be improvement across the board.   Honestly, I have fewer concerns than I did a year ago, as there are far more knowns.   MU is still going to be vulnerable to the widebody posts and therefore to aggressive offensive rebounding.   
Yes, the two guys who could put the team on their backs and go get a basket are gone.   That is the nature of college basketball.

I was pleased MU finished over .500.  Thank goodness for January.   
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #983 on: April 16, 2022, 12:30:53 PM »
The cult of lowered expectations is raising its ugly head around here today.
After a season in which many preached that no one should expect anything because it was a rebuilding/culture building season, now we're being told to expect a step back season and to accept that outgoing players won't be replaced with players of equal or better ability.
Hmmm.
And no, MU is not likely to get a forward better than Lewis in the transfer market, but if "better than Kur" is a bridge too far ... yikes.

1. Oso is already better than Kur. That's why he closed most games out.
2. Wrightsil is likely better than Kur. Even though he is more of a 4/ small ball 5.
3. Lewis is irreplaceable in the transfer market.

We could take a small step back. Losing Lewis lowers the floor of next years team a lot. But the middle range of next years team, is seems similar to this years team.

Somewhere in the high 30s to mid 50's in analytic based measurement. But i will say last years team could have been like 1 games above 0.500 with a little poor luck. Their SQ record was 16-16.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #984 on: April 16, 2022, 12:43:58 PM »
Oso is better than nobody, soft, does not rebound, Has shown nothing but lay ups and dunks, can not shoot, even if he gains another 10-15 pounds, he has zero instincts to rebound.  He really is a wing physically.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #985 on: April 16, 2022, 12:47:45 PM »
Oso is better than nobody, soft, does not rebound, Has shown nothing but lay ups and dunks, can not shoot, even if he gains another 10-15 pounds, he has zero instincts to rebound.  He really is a wing physically.

He has a lot to work on but there's still plenty of upside there.  He also has a nice stroke from the line so I think he can develop a 10-15 foot jumper.  A significant leap from him wouldn't be shocking to me. 
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #986 on: April 16, 2022, 12:48:25 PM »
1. Oso is already better than Kur. That's why he closed most games out.
2. Wrightsil is likely better than Kur. Even though he is more of a 4/ small ball 5.
3. Lewis is irreplaceable in the transfer market.

We could take a small step back. Losing Lewis lowers the floor of next years team a lot. But the middle range of next years team, is seems similar to this years team.

Somewhere in the high 30s to mid 50's in analytic based measurement. But i will say last years team could have been like 1 games above 0.500 with a little poor luck. Their SQ record was 16-16.

1. Oso mostly closed out games because he was a far better FT shooter (74% to 52%).
2.No, Wrightsil is not a 5, even in small ball. He's generously listed at 6'7", 205. OMax will play the 5 before he does,
3. Don't disagree.

But, if losing a player like Justin necessarily lowers a team's floor, we're f*cked. Good programs lose good players every year, sometimes multiple good players, without it automatically meaning a step back. That's the point of recruiting and the transfer portal.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #987 on: April 16, 2022, 12:50:24 PM »
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Curious, is there any returning player that you think can contribute?
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #988 on: April 16, 2022, 12:50:48 PM »
Oso is better than nobody, soft, does not rebound, Has shown nothing but lay ups and dunks, can not shoot, even if he gains another 10-15 pounds, he has zero instincts to rebound.  He really is a wing physically.

Nice thing to say about an unselfish, hard-working kid who puts in 60+ hours a week for Marquette.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #989 on: April 16, 2022, 12:59:36 PM »
Where is everybody seeing a big leap? Not that we don't have a ton of a leap to make to be competitive.
Remember the UNC massacre? That shows we have along way to go.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #990 on: April 16, 2022, 01:00:19 PM »
I hope we lose a good player every year, that means we have a program. I am surprised that many question how Shaka is going to use the transfer portal. I think he is going to use it effectively by adding 1-2 guys with time left on their contract.

In watching a lot of games this year, it is very apparent to me that there a high number of quality players that were not top 50 recruits. Shaka can use the portal and still build a culture.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #991 on: April 16, 2022, 01:05:26 PM »
BC

Curious, is there returning player that you think can contribute?

Kolek has all ability to have the biggest improvement, if not Jones will play more.  Joplin is the most skilled offensively on the team, can he improve on the D and rebound, big question. Prosper will be OK, but has to rebound as well.  Cam can score, he needs to get stronger to play D, not quick.  Mitchell keeps on improving he might be the 2 guard as he can play D.  Both centers
Are weak.  Gold will see the court, can shoot it, can he play D?  Ellis not sure,  Ross can shoot by his stats, but it seems he can play D.  NAIA does not excite me, but need that center!

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #992 on: April 16, 2022, 01:07:05 PM »
Ross can not shoot sorry

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« Reply #993 on: April 16, 2022, 01:10:38 PM »
Nice thing to say about an unselfish, hard-working kid who puts in 60+ hours a week for Marquette.
its describing his game. he didnt say oso is a loser or anything

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« Reply #994 on: April 16, 2022, 01:10:56 PM »
Nice thing to say about an unselfish, hard-working kid who puts in 60+ hours a week for Marquette.

MU82, it is not the fault of the kid, hope so am wrong, blame Stan for recruiting a kid, in this era of hoops, your center has to do more than Pat Smith did.  I am sure he is a great kid!

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #995 on: April 16, 2022, 01:12:03 PM »
Ross can not shoot sorry
When Ross signed, Shaka stated…”Chase is a tremendous athlete and he can really shoot it”.  For now, I guess I will take Shaka’s word over yours…..

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #996 on: April 16, 2022, 01:12:35 PM »
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You lost me, what similarities does Oso have with Pat Smith?

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #997 on: April 16, 2022, 01:15:25 PM »
Yeah, pretty sure Oso can put the basketball in Lake Michigan from Bradford Beach, hey?
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #998 on: April 16, 2022, 01:16:29 PM »
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You lost me, what similarities does Oso have with Pat Smith?

Both can not shoot.. Which Oso was as tough as him, maybe one of toughest player MU ever had

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal Thread
« Reply #999 on: April 16, 2022, 01:17:28 PM »
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