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MuggsyB

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on February 20, 2022, 04:34:16 PM
Morsell had a great game.  But he is not a point guard.  He should not bring the ball up full court even with light pressure.  We all saw the turnovers at the end of the first and second halves before they happened.  Get him the ball after crossing half court. 

Shaka needed a point guard to bring it up.  Bad call on his part. As soon as Morsell tried multiple crossovers the ball was there for the picking.

How about a bad call for having both Jones and GE in the game for the last 7+ mins?

nyg

MU did not score for last five minutes of the game, until Jones hit the three.  BAD again slump

MU had 10 turnovers in the second half.

Kolek sat for like the last 16 minutes after a terrible start to second half.  Never returned, not like Shaka, more of a Buzz thing.

Two missed layups was just a dagger.  MU makes them and I believe they win.

Elliott guarding Hawkins was terrible coaching decision.  Hawkins took him three times and finally Shaka subbed Elliott for Prosper, who of course then missed a layup. 

CU knew Morsell was going to get ball and doubled him, but Morsell did not pass out or attempt to.  He wanted to dribble thru by himself.  Ballgame.  I would of had Kolek in for that possession. 

So, MU loses to CU twice.  Once on a not fouling, and another when CU had a starter and main bench player out AND O'Connell going out with an injury with five minutes left.  Two coulda/shoulda wins, along with Butler loss.  Hurts.

bradforster

Shaka can be blamed for both losses against Creighton this year.  The decision not to foul in the first game was obviously wrong.  Today the lineup late in the game was as odd as it gets.  From missed layups to unforced errors and no offensive game plan under the five minute mark, this was as ignominious an ending as you'll ever see. The most frustrating part is the EXPERIENCED players made all the late mistakes.

PointWarrior

Hard to believe this team beats Villanova twice and loses twice to a chump team like Creighton. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: ATWizJr on February 20, 2022, 04:31:59 PM
yeah, the stupid house money argument again. No thanks.

Ya, I couldn't agree with you more.  This is a ridiculous narrative.

CountryRoads

Quote from: BLM on February 20, 2022, 04:32:38 PM
The most effective play with 5 seconds remaining is to throw it back to the guy 94 feet away? I don't think so. That's a half court heave at best.

With a full head of steam and no one covering him initially, I think Kam especially would have had a chance to make a play in that situation. It's a low percentage situation either way. But neither here nor there. MU turned it over on their last 2 possessions in embarrassing ways. Had flashbacks of Hayward.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: PointWarrior on February 20, 2022, 04:38:14 PM
Hard to believe this team beats Villanova twice and loses twice to a chump team like Creighton.

the same "chump team" that beat Nova by 20 on the same floor and is a game ahead of us in the standings? Maybe CU is pretty much equal to us, not DePaul-Omaha.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

Quote from: BLM on February 20, 2022, 04:32:38 PM
The most effective play with 5 seconds remaining is to throw it back to the guy 94 feet away? I don't think so. That's a half court heave at best.


They were going to in bound it to Oso. What exactly is he going to do with it?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 04:41:29 PM

They were going to in bound it to Oso. What exactly is he going to do with it?

Why on God's Green Earth was he in the game?  I hadn't even thought of this.  WTH was going on here?  I don't think there's a rational answer.

wadesworld

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 04:41:29 PM

They were going to in bound it to Oso. What exactly is he going to do with it?

That doesn't mean the most effective play in a situation where you have to go the full length of the court with 5 seconds left is to in bound it and then throw it backwards. That's guaranteed to leave you with a half court heave, in the best case scenario.

muhoops1

Quote from: Boone on February 20, 2022, 04:32:25 PM
total choke job

elliott can go

I love when Elliott flexes after a bucket instead of playing D.  Guy is good occasionally. 

GoldenEagles03

Up 5 with 4 to play and Shaka chose not to put Kolek in to run the show and close it out.

Instead he tried to let Lewis and Morsell do too much and they both failed.

That's a season altering decision to not go to the floor general with a lead.

Butler, @DePaul, St. John's

Those are all realistic games we could and may lose.  Danger zone for Marquette but the season is still in their control and they should embrace it...will they?
VIOLENCE!

MU24

Not sure why the "we should have never been good this year so its fine" mentality is around right now...MU lost a game they clearly could have won. That is the concern as far as "building" goes.

muwarrior69

If we don't finish next 3 games 3-0 then I'll agree with a lot that has been said here; and if you think the refs were bad here calling fouls just wait for the BET where we always get short changed.

MuggsyB

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 20, 2022, 04:45:22 PM
Up 5 with 4 to play and Shaka chose not to put Kolek in to run the show and close it out.

Instead he tried to let Lewis and Morsell do too much and they both failed.

That's a season altering decision to not go to the floor general with a lead.

Butler, @DePaul, St. John's

Those are all realistic games we could and may lose.  Danger zone for Marquette but the season is still in their control and they should embrace it...will they?

Great point.  The scoopers are very wise fans.  I pointed out in the thread NOT to play hero ball down the stretch but we decided to go with a lot of one on one garbage.

panda

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 04:41:29 PM

They were going to in bound it to Oso. What exactly is he going to do with it?

Hand off to a running elite with action for Morsell and Lewis going down the wings.

panda

Quote from: jfp61 on February 20, 2022, 04:27:50 PM
Worst coached game of the season. Marquette over relied on Darryl to keep making inefficient buckets.  Jones and Elliot lineups dont work.

Lol - Morsell has proven he can make the shots he does (so they are efficient) and he did it at a high clip today. Wrong game for this take.

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1SE

Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 20, 2022, 04:47:33 PM
If we don't finish next 3 games 3-0 then I'll agree with a lot that has been said here; and if you think the refs were bad here calling fouls just wait for the BET where we always get short changed.

Yep, need to finish 3-0 now otherwise Shaka's season will no longer be "exceeding exoectations"
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The Sultan

Quote from: panda on February 20, 2022, 04:48:48 PM
Hand off to a running elite with action for Morsell and Lewis going down the wings.


Good point. But I just don't like him in there. Too young. Freezes up.
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MUBurrow

Quote from: MU24 on February 20, 2022, 04:45:45 PM
Not sure why the "we should have never been good this year so its fine" mentality is around right now...MU lost a game they clearly could have won. That is the concern as far as "building" goes.

Becuase there is nothing I can do about it?  I'm a fan with 0.00% impact on what goes on.  I still think Shaka is the guy and I still like the trajectory of the team, so it is better for me to keep my head than attach myself to the high point of the year and then get all worked up when the team comes back to earth.

tower912

Quote from: MUBurrow on February 20, 2022, 04:56:25 PM
Becuase there is nothing I can do about it?  I'm a fan with 0.00% impact on what goes on.  I still think Shaka is the guy and I still like the trajectory of the team, so it is better for me to keep my head


Should be pinned at the top of the board as a constant reminder.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

panda

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 04:55:40 PM

Good point. But I just don't like him in there. Too young. Freezes up.

He's the second inbound receiving option when option one is covered. You don't want a playmaker coming back catching the ball with his back to the basket under 5 seconds. It's very hard to get a good look.

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