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Viper

Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 20, 2022, 04:30:42 PM
Numbnuts, a 29% 3-point shooter goes 4-6.  Reminiscent of Butler with guy shooting way above their season average.
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panda

Quote from: BM1090 on February 20, 2022, 05:21:20 PM
You might want to look into this a bit more. Our resume is built on good wins and zero to few bad losses. If we all of a sudden take on four more meh to bad losses, our resume isn't very good.

T Ranks projections have an 18-14 MU out and not particularly close (fourth team out) if they lose the next three, win one in the BET, and then lose in the quarterfinals.

That said, I am pretty confident we win Saturday and this discussion won't matter.

I dropped the SJU game as that most likely won't be played. They are solidly in on Trank even while losing out.

Viper

Quote from: PointWarrior on February 20, 2022, 04:38:14 PM
Hard to believe this team beats Villanova twice and loses twice to a chump team like Creighton.
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nyg

Quote from: panda on February 20, 2022, 05:18:13 PM
No sweat. Marquette is solidly in regardless of what happens down the stretch.

So, MU would lose 7 out of its last 9, to include Depaul, have a 9-10 BE record and still get an NCAA bid.

I don't know about that.  Probably not going to lose three in a row anyway. 

panda

Quote from: nyg on February 20, 2022, 05:24:24 PM
So, MU would lose 7 out of its last 9, to include Depaul, have a 9-10 BE record and still get an NCAA bid.

I don't know about that.  Probably not going to lose three in a row anyway.

I'm not including the SJU game as that will most likely not be made up. 9-9 in conference given those circumstances = no sweat.

Elonsmusk

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 20, 2022, 04:45:22 PM
Up 5 with 4 to play and Shaka chose not to put Kolek in to run the show and close it out.

Instead he tried to let Lewis and Morsell do too much and they both failed.

That's a season altering decision to not go to the floor general with a lead.

Butler, @DePaul, St. John's

Those are all realistic games we could and may lose.  Danger zone for Marquette but the season is still in their control and they should embrace it...will they?

This.

The Sultan

Quote from: panda on February 20, 2022, 05:25:47 PM
I'm not including the SJU game as that will most likely not be made up. 9-9 in conference given those circumstances = no sweat.

The last game of the season is March 5 v SJU.
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: panda on February 20, 2022, 05:25:47 PM
I'm not including the SJU game as that will most likely not be made up. 9-9 in conference given those circumstances = no sweat.

Considering they are currently 9-7 and have 3 games left they can't finish 9-9.

They could however finish 9-10, very realistically.  It will be a sweat.  Better pack the arena next Saturday because Butler just smacked us in the mouth once and they'll do it again.
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MUBurrow

Quote from: Johnny B on February 20, 2022, 05:10:21 PM
the "season doesnt matter cuz pre season expectarions were low" ppl are weirdos. i dont get the logic at all. any season only matters depending on pre season expectation???  whatever the players and coaches dont think like that.

Its not just based on preseason expectations, but its based on the team I've watched throughout the season.  This is a "win a couple you shouldn't, lose a couple you shouldn't" team if there ever was one.  And I like this team a lot!  But its hard for me to get too beat up over this one.  On the road, against a good team, and the plays that killed us down the stretch were turnovers from the two oldest guys on the team and a missed bunny from our fringe first round NBA-er.  Other than that I am also curious to hear more about why Kolek sat the whole second half, that's a "horses you rode in on" loss and you take your lump and move on. 

panda

Quote from: Clarissa on February 20, 2022, 05:28:38 PM
The last game of the season is March 5 v SJU.

My bad - I thought I was looking at the away sju game which will not be made up.

I stand by my take even with a loss to sju.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 20, 2022, 05:30:08 PM
Considering they are currently 9-7 and have 3 games left they can't finish 9-9.

They could however finish 9-10, very realistically.  It will be a sweat.  Better pack the arena next Saturday because Butler just smacked us in the mouth once and they'll do it again.

The chances of losing the next 3 is minimal. They've got 5 days to prepare for Butler at home. No excuse to lose that game.

Viper



It's one thing to lose, but MU doesn't help itself. Weird line-ups. Same mistakes game in game out. Is coaching basketball that difficult? Wojo is gone, but is Shaka an upgrade? Maybe we won't know until year two or even year three. But it sure gets rough when basketball is our 'show' and the product is cold soup for a decade now. (made worse by the annual winning over in Dane Cty)
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Viper on February 20, 2022, 05:36:31 PM


It's one thing to lose, but MU doesn't help itself. Weird line-ups. Same mistakes game in game out. Is coaching basketball that difficult? Wojo is gone, but is Shaka an upgrade? Maybe we won't know until year two or even year three. But it sure gets rough when basketball is our 'show' and the product is cold soup for a decade now. (made worse by the annual winning over in Dane Cty)

Lot of silly hyperbole here.

Is Shaka an upgrade?  Hysterical.

panda

Quote from: Viper on February 20, 2022, 05:36:31 PM


It's one thing to lose, but MU doesn't help itself. Weird line-ups. Same mistakes game in game out. Is coaching basketball that difficult? Wojo is gone, but is Shaka an upgrade? Maybe we won't know until year two or even year three. But it sure gets rough when basketball is our 'show' and the product is cold soup for a decade now. (made worse by the annual winning over in Dane Cty)

Kolek has a hard time playing the way kalkbrenner defends the pnr. He struggled today. Kam was better around the paint with the ball. Pnr defense is also why we saw a lot of iso Morsell which he dominated creighton with and kept us in the game.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

panda

Quote from: tower912 on February 20, 2022, 05:43:26 PM
So, adjustments.

Yep - extremely poor finish, but in a bizarro world, we're singing the praises of Morsell for his awesome defense on Nemhard the possession before his turnover and him absolutely dominating offensively.

Mu8891

Kolek SHOULD have been in the game to handle the ball and run sets when u are up w / 4 mins to go.

AWFUL decision by Shaka.  Really bad

Should be 2 - 0 v Creighton and we are
0 - 2.

Mr. Nielsen

Sounded by the words of Shaka in the post-game he didn't trust Kolek.
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hawk

MU is solidly in 5th place.  I expect they will finish there and get a bid.  It is easy to get caught up in the frustrations of the present.  That being said Kolek better have a broken am or leg to not have been in the game at the end.  He runs the offense.

tower912

Quote from: Johnny B on February 20, 2022, 05:10:21 PM
the "season doesnt matter cuz pre season expectarions were low" ppl are weirdos. i dont get the logic at all. any season only matters depending on pre season expectation???  whatever the players and coaches dont think like that.
I have done what I said I would.   Why is that weird?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

We lost by one on the road to a likely tourney team. They went nuts from three and we missed two bunnies in the final seconds that may have sealed a victory had they gone in. There are obvious improvements that need to be made,  but Shaka has hit way more than he's missed this season.

No Kolek at the end is a real head scratcher. I know he had a rough game and I actually like how we used Jones in his place. But you gotta believe he doesn't let a scrub turn him over before even initiating the offense
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 20, 2022, 05:32:10 PM
The chances of losing the next 3 is minimal. They've got 5 days to prepare for Butler at home. No excuse to lose that game.

Butler. A team they trailed by 23 to no longer than 8 days ago.  It'll be a roller coaster finish.
VIOLENCE!

panda

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 20, 2022, 06:00:52 PM
Butler. A team they trailed by 23 to no longer than 8 days ago.  It'll be a roller coaster finish.

Another panda guarantee - there is a zero percent chance of us losing the butler game.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 20, 2022, 06:00:52 PM
Butler. A team they trailed by 23 to no longer than 8 days ago.  It'll be a roller coaster finish.

A team they should absolutely beat at home on National Marquette Day.

BM1090

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 20, 2022, 06:04:48 PM
A team they should absolutely beat at home on National Marquette Day.

Absolutely. We'll win the two remaining home games and enter the BET as a lock.

All I am saying is if I'm wrong and we lose the next 3, we're out. 

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