Crushing, self-inflicted, disaster.

[MuggsyB]

I'm sorry if I'm not going to be skipping in the park and having chocolate milkshakes after losing that game.  There's nothing wrong with fans venting after a  stunning debacle of epic proportions.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Yep, need to finish 3-0 now otherwise Shaka's season will no longer be "exceeding exoectations"

Completely disagree. 

At this point, I'll take a 2-1 finish, unfortunately. 

[BM1090]

The 8/9 game should be fun

Better win Saturday or we could be looking at the bubble.

[BM1090]

Completely disagree. 

At this point, I'll take a 2-1 finish, unfortunately.

This. Today was infuriating but a 2-1 finish and we're a 7 or 8 seed and it's a successful year.

[panda]

Better win Saturday or we could be looking at the bubble.

We are 100% in the tournament.

[BM1090]

We are 100% in the tournament.

If we lose out we are 100% out. We'd be 17-14.

[CountryRoads]

Better win Saturday or we could be looking at the bubble.

We still have work to do to get to the 8-9 game. One more win puts us there I think. I think MU is in the tournament at 17-14 this year though (no Dayton either).

[tower912]

I'm sorry if I'm not going to be skipping in the park and having chocolate milkshakes after losing that game.  There's nothing wrong with fans venting after a  stunning debacle of epic proportions.

And you should vent to your heart's content.

[StillWarriors]

Morsell had a great game.  But he is not a point guard.  He should not bring the ball up full court even with light pressure.  We all saw the turnovers at the end of the first and second halves before they happened.  Get him the ball after crossing half court. 

Shaka needed a point guard to bring it up.  Bad call on his part. As soon as Morsell tried multiple crossovers the ball was there for the picking.

Exactly.

[BM1090]

We still have work to do to get to the 8-9 game. One more win puts us there I think. I think MU is in the tournament at 17-14 this year though (no Dayton either).

Nope. Out. No Dayton.

We'd be 17-14 and taking 4 consecutive bad losses in this scenario. Win one and we're fine.

[bradforster]

I have no idea why Kolek had to sit on the bench nearly the entire second half.  You can't let a guy play his way out of a slump?  The coach keeps telling us Tyler is crucial to the success of the team, yet he sits for 16 minutes in the second half of a big conference road game?  I think Shaka is contradicting himself quite nicely. 

[1SE]

Completely disagree. 

At this point, I'll take a 2-1 finish, unfortunately.

3-4 finish against that schedule would be positively Wojo-esque

[Johnny B]

the "season doesnt matter cuz pre season expectarions were low" ppl are weirdos. i dont get the logic at all. any season only matters depending on pre season expectation???  whatever the players and coaches dont think like that.

[GoldenEagles03]

Better win Saturday or we could be looking at the bubble.

Let's be honest.

Marquette probably isn't beating Butler, DePaul, and St. John's.  They are going to lose again at least once.

Realistically they could finish 17-13 which would make for a sweaty BET and Selection Sunday.

I think 8/9 is likely at this point, but missing the tournament is not out of the question.  There are no Q1 opportunities left. That was the last chance.  So none of these remaining wins will move them up the seed lines.  They can only go down unfortunately.

[panda]

If we lose out we are 100% out. We'd be 17-14.

You are wrong. Our resume as it stands now, is more than enough to get in. You don't drop from a fringe 4 seed to out of the tournament losing a few games.

[MuggsyB]

I have no idea why Kolek had to sit on the bench nearly the entire second half.  You can't let a guy play his way out of a slump?  The coach keeps telling us Tyler is crucial to the success of the team, yet he sits for 16 minutes in the second half of a big conference road game?  I think Shaka is contradicting himself quite nicely.

He had 7 points including a three in 15 mins.  Some bad turns but I agree with you.  I am dumbfounded he sat that long.

[Mu8891]

I will take 2 - 1 finish.

No guarantee of that.   They seem to be fading... I think they need a few days off.  They looked gassed at the end

[nyg]

I have no idea why Kolek had to sit on the bench nearly the entire second half.  You can't let a guy play his way out of a slump?  The coach keeps telling us Tyler is crucial to the success of the team, yet he sits for 16 minutes in the second half of a big conference road game?  I think Shaka is contradicting himself quite nicely.

Kolek played a total of 15 minutes, but that includes the last ten minutes of first half due to foul issues.  Means he played like 5 minutes of second half, then sat.

Turnovers:

Kolek 3
Lewis 5
Morsell 5

Thats 13 of MU's 16. 

[GoldenEagles03]

You are wrong. Our resume as it stands now, is more than enough to get in. You don't drop from a fringe 4 seed to out of the tournament losing a few games.

They've lost more than a few. They've lost 4 of 6.  They were a fringe 4 before losing to Butler and Creighton.

Now they have 10 losses and are sub .500 in Q1 and Q2 games as well as sub .500 on the road.

It's gonna be a sweat the rest of the way.

[wadesworld]

They've lost more than a few. They've lost 4 of 6.  They were a fringe 4 before losing to Butler and Creighton.

Now they have 10 losses and are sub .500 in Q1 and Q2 games as well as sub .500 on the road.

It's gonna be a sweat the rest of the way.

No it isn't.

[panda]

They've lost more than a few. They've lost 4 of 6.  They were a fringe 4 before losing to Butler and Creighton.

Now they have 10 losses and are sub .500 in Q1 and Q2 games as well as sub .500 on the road.

It's gonna be a sweat the rest of the way.

No sweat. Marquette is solidly in regardless of what happens down the stretch.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

3-4 finish against that schedule would be positively Wojo-esque

It would be a poor, disappointing finish.  However, my response was in regards to this season not meeting expectations if we don't go 3-0 to end the regular season.  Couldn't disagree more with that. 

[MuggsyB]

I think we need one more win but that won't be a problem.

[BM1090]

You are wrong. Our resume as it stands now, is more than enough to get in. You don't drop from a fringe 4 seed to out of the tournament losing a few games.

You might want to look into this a bit more. Our resume is built on good wins and zero to few bad losses. If we all of a sudden take on four more meh to bad losses, our resume isn't very good.

T Ranks projections have an 18-14 MU out and not particularly close (fourth team out) if they lose the next three, win one in the BET, and then lose in the quarterfinals.

That said, I am pretty confident we win Saturday and this discussion won't matter.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

They've lost more than a few. They've lost 4 of 6.  They were a fringe 4 before losing to Butler and Creighton.

Now they have 10 losses and are sub .500 in Q1 and Q2 games as well as sub .500 on the road.

It's gonna be a sweat the rest of the way.

Now compare that to the resumes of the teams that are actually on the bubble right now.