Unexpected Wr-Hinkle

[Pakuni]

Road conference games are always tough.  Loss isn't the end of the world.
But giving up 40+ first half points and falling way behind in back-to-back games is concerning.  Need to come out Wednesday like our hair is on fire.

[muhoops1]

Marquette played like crap.  Poor effort on defense and they were predictable on offense.  It was a bad look all around.  MU is way better and didn’t show it.  Koleck show MU out of it in the first half and got them close in the 2nd.  MU got out worked by an inferior opponent.

[JakeBarnes]

Options?  Kur was worse, OMP had 4 fouls and wasn't very good, either.  Lewis and 4 guards?  Which 4?   Probably Morsell, Stevie, Greg, and Kolek.   More Joplin?

Given his recent play, more Joplin would have been nice

[PointWarrior]

Mind boggling this same can beat Villanova’s twice and even Seton Hall twice but look like dog crap playing a crap team like Butler.

[wisblue]

Why are you disregarding the BET?

A few decades of MU getting knocked out early in conference tournaments will do that to you.

Beside, the conference tournaments don’t affect NCAA seeding anywhere near as much as fans seem to think.

[GoldenEagles03]

Why are you disregarding the BET?

Not disregarding, you just have just chose not to read this part.

"Basically means there are no needle moving wins left unless they get a matchup in New York.

It is important to stay in the Top 5 in the Conference to get a "first round bye" in New York."

[muwarrior97]

That was horrendous to watch, falling back into let’s just bomb 3’s and hope they go in mode (AND Morsell ain’t a 3pt shooter…..drive it all day and play your bully-ball mid-range game!!)

Can someone tell me how Joplin only gets ONE minute of burn?  Especially after hearing Shaka give him the stroke on Thursday nights MU Basketball Hour for the second or third time this season.

Hope they learned a BIG lesson, gotta play like the Hungry Hunter the rest of the way  :'(

[GoldenEagles03]

You said this loss drops them to a 7 or 8 seed. That's absolutely not accurate.

They were pegged as 6 seed on Lunardi's bracket before the loss.

7 or 8 seed isn't out of the question. Butler is a terrible basketball team. Not the end of the world, but still a damaging loss.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

That was horrendous to watch, falling back into let’s just bomb 3’s and hope they go in mode (AND Morsell ain’t a 3pt shooter…..drive it all day and play your bully-ball mid-range game!!)

Can someone tell me how Joplin only gets ONE minute of burn?  Especially after hearing Shaka give him the stroke on Thursday nights MU Basketball Hour for the second or third time this season.

Hope they learned a BIG lesson, gotta play like the Hungry Hunter the rest of the way  :'(

Because Joplin is a negative defensively

[MuggsyB]

That was horrendous to watch, falling back into let’s just bomb 3’s and hope they go in mode (AND Morsell ain’t a 3pt shooter…..drive it all day and play your bully-ball mid-range game!!)

Can someone tell me how Joplin only gets ONE minute of burn?  Especially after hearing Shaka give him the stroke on Thursday nights MU Basketball Hour for the second or third time this season.

Hope they learned a BIG lesson, gotta play like the Hungry Hunter the rest of the way  :'(

Well we can only play our schedule.  There's no denying today was a s-show, and we need to get our act together, but as you stated perhaps this is a wake-up call.

[JakeBarnes]

Because Joplin is a negative defensively

Given there weren't really many stops by our defense today anyways, would have been worth a shot for Jop.

[muhoops1]

When Tyler drive and create MU is really good.  When he is a perimeter shooter MU is really beatable.  Another February dive seems inevitable. 

Here is where Shaka distinguishes himself from his predecessor.  Not all on Shaka but he is not off the hook as his team got rolled by two beatable teams.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

When Tyler drive and create MU is really good.  When he is a perimeter shooter MU is really beatable.  Another February dive seems inevitable. 

Here is where Shaka distinguishes himself from his predecessor.  Not all on Shaka but he is not off the hook as his team got rolled by two beatable teams.

Idiotic.

[MuggsyB]

Even though we started 3-15 from distance the defense early was the biggest problem of the game.  And in my view we made a tactical error by overthinking things, a.k a overpressuring.  They hit some shots early for sure, and two late that were just disgusting, but we were off balanced and pretty Helter Skelter for the first 10 mins of the gane. Butler is a team that averages 62 points and we acted Ike we were guarding a combination of the Phoenix Suns and Golden State.  All we had to do was be solid but we pretty much pissed all over ourselves.  We have to be much more composed and play with far more intelligence.

[MU82]

Totally deserved to lose this game, but ...

The Harris kid who killed us with Rowsey-esque dagger 3s came into the game shooting 29.5%.

The Golden dude who torched us for 22 came in averaging 8.8 pts, with 0.6 makes from 3 per game.

So yes, we sucked most of the game, but Butler did a lot of un-Butlery things in this one. We're gonna kick their butts on NMD at Fiserv.

Oh, and I almost feel sorry for Georgetown, because a lot of frustrations are gonna be taken out Wednesday night.

[MUDPT]

They were pegged as 6 seed on Lunardi's bracket before the loss.

7 or 8 seed isn't out of the question. Butler is a terrible basketball team. Not the end of the world, but still a damaging loss.

T-ranktology updates after every game.  MU dropped one spot on the S-Curve from 22 to 23. 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

T-ranktology updates after every game.  MU dropped one spot on the S-Curve from 22 to 23.

Burn it all down.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Worst performance since St. Bonaventure. Probably second worst of the season. First bad loss in a month and a half. One data point among many. If it becomes a new trend, we could be in trouble. I'll go on record as saying that we will win two more laughers before the regular season is over and have one more headscratching loss.

[MU82]

Worst performance since St. Bonaventure. Probably second worst of the season. First bad loss in a month and a half. One data point among many. If it becomes a new trend, we could be in trouble. I'll go on record as saying that we will win two more laughers before the regular season is over and have one more headscratching loss.

Laugher No. 1 is coming Wednesday for sure. Laugher No. 2 probably will be against Butler in two weeks on NMD when our guys play much better and their bricklayers aren't raining in 3s.

I think we'll win at Creighton and at DePaul. However, if we happen to lose one or both, would either be all that "headscratching"? If we're favored at all, it won't be by much. So that would leave a home loss to St. John's on senior day -- that would truly suck ... if it were to happen ... which it won't. (He said, projecting false bravado.)

[rocky_warrior]

Had to watch after the fact, as I planned my day poorly.  But anyhow...

* Not disappointed in the effort, Lewis was a coach on the floor, even for the older guys
* When Butler was hitting everything midway in the 1st half, it reminded me of MU's offense when they are playing well.
* But MU should never give up 85 to this Butler team.
* Butler was amazingly consistent, 42 1st half points, 43 2nd half points - it wasn't just their crazy few minutes in the 1st half.
* Not concerned, unless this becomes a trend.
* Slightly concerned because I think fouls were called in this game similar to the tournament.  Marquette plays aggressive defense, and those fouls were called early today - causing foul and lineup issues.

[muwarrior97]

Given there weren't really many stops by our defense today anyways, would have been worth a shot for Jop.

YES!!!! Try something different and he hasn’t been awful defensively, his O could have made a difference

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Given there weren't really many stops by our defense today anyways, would have been worth a shot for Jop.

Yes. A great way to improve a team defensively is to put a worse defender on the floor.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

YES!!!! Try something different and he hasn’t been awful defensively, his O could have made a difference

Really?  He’s…fine. But offense wasn’t their problem especially in the second half. Defense was.  Putting in a worse defender when you are already scoring the ball isn’t going to help.

Scoop always wants the guys on the bench to “try something different.”  That’s usually not how this works.

[willie warrior]

His love of phallic references is telling

Except you guys are posting about it. The love is in your posts.

[MUDPT]

T-ranktology updates after every game.  MU dropped one spot on the S-Curve from 22 to 23.

Update, after last night’s game, they are still at 22.

It did effect BET seeding. Less likely a 3 seed and probably in the 4/5 matchup. Creighton game is huge for tiebreakers. Loss could bump us to 6 and having to play an extra game.