Jamil Wilson.....4 stars

[ChicosBailBonds]

I came up in a thread the other day that I can't find.  A lot of people wanting to use certain recruiting rankings to make their own points....somewhere it came up about Jamil Wilson being a "must get" and also talking about our inability to get "4 & 5 star players".

Fact is, we've landed plenty of 4 star players the last 10 years.

Jamil Wilson, at least according to Rivals, is a 4 star as well.


http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=66544


Erik Williams, by the way, ranked 92nd and also a 4 star.  But you should see North Carolina's 2009 class....4 guys in the top 35

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?SID=910&Year=&ra_key=1642

[MUFanInGreenBay]

Erik Williams is going to move up a lot in the 2009 rankings when they update them again from what I've read in articles on Rivals and other recruiting sites. He was very impressive in a prestigous holiday tournament that's in the Houston area every year at the end of December. Many of the so called "experts" from the recruiting services were on hand and wrote in their reports from the tournament that Williams would move up in their 2009 rankings. Some recruiting serivices even say he could be a Top 30 guy in 2009 - this was either HoopScoop or Hoopmasters Van Coleman. I can't remember. Keep in mind that Williams did break his ankle though right after that tournament so hopefully that doesn't hamper him come AAU time. 

[nyg]

Scout has Wilson as the #6 recruit in the country. 

[MUFanInGreenBay]

I got a subscription to Hoopmasters so I went back and looked what Van Coleman had to say in his report from that tournament. By the way, the tourney is called "Houston versus the Nation". Here's the little blurb Coleman had about Erik Williams:

Erik Williams 6-foot-7 WF Cypress Cy Springs (Tex.) - (Marquette) Another solid top thirty type prospect who can knock down perimeter jumper or explode to hoop and create highlights at the rim. He has a real nose for the ball and is willing to do dirty work for his club. Look for him to make an immediate impact for the Golden Eagles.

[Mayor McCheese]

Jamil Wilson is usually a top 10 in the country, doubt he is a 4 star anywhere.

[bilsu]

I thought erik williams broke his ankle. If that is the case he probably drops in rankings. Out of sight out of mind.

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I thought erik williams broke his ankle. If that is the case he probably drops in rankings. Out of sight out of mind.

Correct. He broke it late November.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Jamil Wilson is usually a top 10 in the country, doubt he is a 4 star anywhere.

Well I gave a link to rivals where he is a 4 star

[Marquette65]

Lets hope Williams shows up.  He will be under tremendous pressure to stay in state at either UT or A&M.

As to Wison, as stated b/4, he will not be at MU unless to play a pick-up game.

[muwarrior87]

Hasn't Williams already committed? doubt he'd back out since we showed interest in him as early as we did unless he had some family troubles or something else similar, heaven forbid.

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Lets hope Williams shows up.  He will be under tremendous pressure to stay in state at either UT or A&M.

As to Wison, as stated b/4, he will not be at MU unless to play a pick-up game.

Williams never even thought about visiting other campuses. He seemed determined to A.) Come to Marquette B.) Really likes Buzz Williams?

[Mayor McCheese]

Jamil Wilson is usually a top 10 in the country, doubt he is a 4 star anywhere.

Well I gave a link to rivals where he is a 4 star

yea I saw that link...  That was news to me, everywhere I looked he was in top 10.  And yes, Jamil Wilson is leaving the state

[MUFanInGreenBay]

I thought erik williams broke his ankle. If that is the case he probably drops in rankings. Out of sight out of mind.

Correct. He broke it late November.

Incorrect. He broke it in early January.

http://community.sportsbubbler.com/forums/p/31302/70208.aspx


By the way, if you read my above post you would have seen that he played in a big national tournament at the end of December. As for those of you that think Williams ranking will go down some I think it's unlikely. He should be back in time for this upcoming AAU season if his rehab goes as planned. These recruiting services really use the AAU circuit as their main determing factor into where they rank players. Also, it's not like Williams didn't show what he had in that tourney at the end of this past December, which I might add was against top notch high school talent. Prior that tourney he was also playing very good basketball leading his team to some big victories over top teams in the Houston area.

[tomcrean4pres]

If you guys know so much about Jamil name your sources... where is he going... how do you know... if you provide me with that i will believe you however id be willing to bet nobody knows right now. I don't even think Jamil knows yet.

[MUFanInGreenBay]

If you guys know so much about Jamil name your sources... where is he going... how do you know... if you provide me with that i will believe you however id be willing to bet nobody knows right now. I don't even think Jamil knows yet.

Yeah, exactly. I know I've read where Jamil clearly states he wants to be able to come in and play right away without basically a logjam at his postion. Something that shouldn't be too surprising I guess.

[DonCornholeone]

Based on the video I've seen, the scouting reports and first-hand accounts from extremely knowledgable basketball minds I know personally, Jamil is a TOP NOTCH STUD.  He would be a recruiting bastion and an incredible player, able to do impact freshman style things (rose, gordon, etc.)

[bma725]

Based on the video I've seen, the scouting reports and first-hand accounts from extremely knowledgable basketball minds I know personally, Jamil is a TOP NOTCH STUD.  He would be a recruiting bastion and an incredible player, able to do impact freshman style things (rose, gordon, etc.)

I don't know about that.  Rose and Gordon and Love and Beasley all had one skill at this point that put them ahead of the competition, whether it was shooting, passing, ability off the dribble etc. 

Wilson doesn't have that.  He's extremely athletic...but thats about it.  He's not a good shooter, whether its mid-range or beyond the arc, its something he really has to work on.  He has the ability to drive to the hole, but doesn't finish well.  He doesn't pass well at all.  He plays barely passable defense for long stretches of time, he loses focus and often seems to not be paying attention on the court.  And he's already been suspended and missed time for violating team rules in HS.  The only thing he's really good at right now is post moves, and he's simply not big enough to play there at the next level. 

He's got a long way to go to even dream about being on the same level as Gordon, Rose, etc.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

We better hope Buzz Williams sticks around next year.

[Marquette65]

w/o out disclosing " sources" and lets assume grades etc. are in order lets look out why Wilson will not be at MU
* Wilson's had some on court-off court problems and ,as we saw last year, TC is very big on character
* If Wison was solid on MU there would be an verbal already
* Wison's list  includes a number of schools whose style of play is more what he is looking for.

* Wilson , at present, is most interested in Duke, Tenn, UCLA with believe it or not Wisc. He believes that all but Wisc. is best suited to how he plays.

[Coobeys Oil Depot]

I thought erik williams broke his ankle. If that is the case he probably drops in rankings. Out of sight out of mind.

Not really. The rankings these days are based more on AAU play then high school play.

Iman Shumpert is an outstanding AAU player and a very good high school player. His high ranking reflects his AAU performances. The opposite with Nick Williams. Williams is a good AAU player and a outstanding high school player. His rankings have rarely moved.

Erik Williams could sit out this high school season, blow up in AAU over this summer and be a top 50 guy heading into his Senior season.

[Coobeys Oil Depot]

w/o out disclosing " sources" and lets assume grades etc. are in order lets look out why Wilson will not be at MU
* Wilson's had some on court-off court problems and ,as we saw last year, TC is very big on character
* If Wison was solid on MU there would be an verbal already
* Wison's list  includes a number of schools whose style of play is more what he is looking for.

* Wilson , at present, is most interested in Duke, Tenn, UCLA with believe it or not Wisc. He believes that all but Wisc. is best suited to how he plays.

I haven't heard much about his character problems. In fact, a lot of what you read in the local press talks about Wilson being a very level headed kid for all the of the attention he receives and the family tragedy he went through in the past year.

The talk of Wilson being solid on MU without a verbal is bullcrap. As another example of a highly rated Wisconsin product, Brian Butch was always going to attend Wisconsin and yet he let his recruitment go on and on and on.

When you bring up style of play you mentioned 4 teams that are not the same style. Wisconsin and UCLA don't get up and down the floor like Tennessee or Duke. The first two have a very structured system in which they run their offense. Tennessee doesn't have much of a offensive system at all. And Duke is mostly concerned with motion and looking for a perimeter shot. I'm not sure why those 4 teams would fit Wilson's style moreso then Marquette would and you even mention that Wisconsin wouldn't fit yet you say he is interested in Wisconsin. That seems incongruant.

Finally, you started by writing that we have to assume Wilson's grades are in order. Again, I've never seen anything that questioned his academic qualification and by all accounts his academics won't be an issue for whichever school he wants to attend.

[NYWarrior]

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Tyshawn Taylor# 90

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[MarkMiller]

The comments on this board about Jamil Wilson and his current situation as it relates to recruiting are WAY, WAY off base. In the end, he may or may not attend Marquette or Wisconsin, but absolutely NO decision has been made to date.

[ChicosBailBonds]

w/o out disclosing " sources" and lets assume grades etc. are in order lets look out why Wilson will not be at MU
* Wilson's had some on court-off court problems and ,as we saw last year, TC is very big on character
* If Wison was solid on MU there would be an verbal already
* Wison's list  includes a number of schools whose style of play is more what he is looking for.

* Wilson , at present, is most interested in Duke, Tenn, UCLA with believe it or not Wisc. He believes that all but Wisc. is best suited to how he plays.

Do your sources also think McNeal is the two time Big East defender of the year?   

[ChicosBailBonds]

w/o out disclosing " sources" and lets assume grades etc. are in order lets look out why Wilson will not be at MU
* Wilson's had some on court-off court problems and ,as we saw last year, TC is very big on character
* If Wison was solid on MU there would be an verbal already
* Wison's list  includes a number of schools whose style of play is more what he is looking for.

* Wilson , at present, is most interested in Duke, Tenn, UCLA with believe it or not Wisc. He believes that all but Wisc. is best suited to how he plays.

I haven't heard much about his character problems. In fact, a lot of what you read in the local press talks about Wilson being a very level headed kid for all the of the attention he receives and the family tragedy he went through in the past year.

The talk of Wilson being solid on MU without a verbal is bullcrap. As another example of a highly rated Wisconsin product, Brian Butch was always going to attend Wisconsin and yet he let his recruitment go on and on and on.

When you bring up style of play you mentioned 4 teams that are not the same style. Wisconsin and UCLA don't get up and down the floor like Tennessee or Duke. The first two have a very structured system in which they run their offense. Tennessee doesn't have much of a offensive system at all. And Duke is mostly concerned with motion and looking for a perimeter shot. I'm not sure why those 4 teams would fit Wilson's style moreso then Marquette would and you even mention that Wisconsin wouldn't fit yet you say he is interested in Wisconsin. That seems incongruant.

Finally, you started by writing that we have to assume Wilson's grades are in order. Again, I've never seen anything that questioned his academic qualification and by all accounts his academics won't be an issue for whichever school he wants to attend.

Methinks Marquette65 is a troll