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Elonsmusk

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O-Max
« on: January 07, 2022, 10:21:03 PM »
Might be the best pro prospect on the roster.  Love his motor.  Great defender.  Long.  Handles the ball well.  2 more years of strength and conditioning for him and he, along with Oso will be forces.  Justin of course is highly regarded among scouts, yet think from a ceiling perspective, O-Max's ceiling might be a bit higher.

The future is bright.  Some Scoopers owe O-Max and Tyler Kolek an apology - both have tremendous upside.   8-)  Steve Lavin, though prone to hyperbole, referenced Kolek reminding him of a young Steve Nash.  Tyler sure does see the floor well, keep his dribble alive, and make the game easier for his teammates.

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2022, 10:27:48 PM »
Sorry OMP and sorry Tyler- I was just hoping you both read scoop and needed the extra fire.

In that breath, let’s just hold the horses on OMax until he gets at least 3-4 elite games under his belt.

The answer is Justin here.

I will say though that if OMax is legit, then three things hold true
1- Shaka is an amazing talent evaluator
2- MUs immediate and long term future are in a much better place.
3- Canada rejoice

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2022, 10:38:01 PM »
I for one was questioning his ability to score, as he was to intimidated or scared to put the ball up on the pick and roll. He was not tentative tonight or last game.  As somebody who played point, you have the ball in your hands more than any player on the court, you have to take advantage of openings on the court and be fearless going to the hoop, love what I saw tonight, a bunch of layups.  It also gives you confidence to hit outside shots as well, well done.

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2022, 10:55:57 PM »
He’s got a high ceiling, I hope he can get close to it during his time at MU

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2022, 10:59:50 PM »
I for one was questioning his ability to score, as he was to intimidated or scared to put the ball up on the pick and roll. He was not tentative tonight or last game.  As somebody who played point, you have the ball in your hands more than any player on the court, you have to take advantage of openings on the court and be fearless going to the hoop, love what I saw tonight, a bunch of layups.  It also gives you confidence to hit outside shots as well, well done.

Or against UConn or Creighton.

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2022, 11:36:58 PM »
OMP is the one player on the roster who I think has the potential to do an over the summer “holy hell, what happened” leap like Jimmy Butler did. Especially given his connection with the Canada basketball program and the experience he gets there

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2022, 02:20:38 AM »
Omax is just scratching the surface of his potential. Truthfully, anyone that was down on him three weeks is either a negative person or has no understanding of the sport. The kid has a very bright future at MU and the next level.

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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2022, 02:39:36 AM »
Omax is just scratching the surface of his potential. Truthfully, anyone that was down on him three weeks is either a negative person or has no understanding of the sport. The kid has a very bright future at MU and the next level.

The raw talent and the drive was there. Now he is starting to slow down his game a bit before he understands better when to up and down shift. Pretty much perfect today.

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2022, 03:59:52 AM »
I was one of the folks that wasn't so impressed by O-Max a few games ago. Compared him to Trend Blackledge. I stand by that opinion at that time.

But, gladly, things have dramatically changed. That proverbial "the game has slowed down" for him has happened. And, the overall offense has gotten better, creating more space for him to attack without being crowded and losing his handle. The extra passing that is happening helps him (and others). His energy on defense has turned into confidence on offense.

Wonderful to see, and I hope it continues. Go O!

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2022, 05:34:46 AM »
I actually think Ellis has the best pro chances. I like his size and quickness. He needs strength and playing time.

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2022, 06:11:59 AM »
I think it’s time to sit back and enjoy this team getting better as the season goes along and quit gnashing our teeth about the “lack of talent” theme that started before people even saw this team play.

There is plenty of talent and Shaka is a good coach.  There will be clunkers ahead but there will also be outstanding moments and enough of them to make the tournament.  Go MU!  Enjoy the ride!

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2022, 06:22:51 AM »
Hope he continues to Prosper here and Obviously Max out his potential
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Re: O-Max
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2022, 06:43:27 AM »
I put Juan and Jamil in a blender.   A long, athletic forward with a motor like Juan's.   Of course there is going to be a learning curve and bad games.   He will be fine.
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2022, 06:44:52 AM »
I put Juan and Jamil in a blender.   A long, athletic forward with a motor like Juan's.   Of course there is going to be a learning curve and bad games.   He will be fine.

Most potential to not hit their peak at Marquette ever to be put in a blender
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2022, 06:53:01 AM »
Most potential to not hit their peak at Marquette ever to be put in a blender

What type of blender ? Kitchen aid? Ninja?


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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2022, 07:38:26 AM »
O-MAX appears to be a real X factor for us. I think he's slowing down a bit and letting the game come to him more.  He's certainly a terrific athlete with the ability to be a prime-time switchable.

I know it's beyond fixing but the Warriors at worst should be 3-2 in the BEast and more likely 4-1.  However, to bounce back with two resounding wins is a huge positive.  I would still like to see more FTA's, offensive rebs, and fewer turns.  In the short-term let's take care of business vs DePaul and especially The Hall. 

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2022, 07:48:45 AM »
The raw talent and the drive was there. Now he is starting to slow down his game a bit before he understands better when to up and down shift. Pretty much perfect today.
Agreed...much more controlled and deliberate as he goes to the hoop.  When he gets a little more comfortable he'll go harder/faster...and if his 3 ball clicks he's going to be a force.  Those that attended the scrimmages/practices saw what he could bring.  How great to watch so many different players develop throughout the season...hats off to our players and coaches. 

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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2022, 07:53:45 AM »
Liked OMAX from the start, he really isn't afraid to get physical under the basket. Also, he has taken advantage that teams have decided to go all in on stopping Justin. Credit to him and to the team on the offensive side, they have stepped up.
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Re: O-Max
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2022, 08:04:32 AM »
O-MAX appears to be a real X factor for us. I think he's slowing down a bit and letting the game come to him more.  He's certainly a terrific athlete with the ability to be a prime-time switchable.

I know it's beyond fixing but the Warriors at worst should be 3-2 in the BEast and more likely 4-1.  However, to bounce back with two resounding wins is a huge positive.  I would still like to see more FTA's, offensive rebs, and fewer turns.  In the short-term let's take care of business vs DePaul and especially The Hall.

Agree! I’m trying so hard to push the Creighton loss out of my head. But as a fan (players and coaches have moved on to the next game) it’s hard to let it go. I think everyone on this board would be anointing Shaka as the “second coming” if we were 4-1 in the BEAST. The crazy part is just how close we were to making that happen

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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2022, 09:06:39 AM »
Agree! I’m trying so hard to push the Creighton loss out of my head. But as a fan (players and coaches have moved on to the next game) it’s hard to let it go. I think everyone on this board would be anointing Shaka as the “second coming” if we were 4-1 in the BEAST. The crazy part is just how close we were to making that happen

We're for sure a foul away from being .500, the missed dunk by Kur at least would've made another game much more of a photo finish but who knows how it plays out
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Re: O-Max
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2022, 09:08:28 AM »
We're for sure a foul away from being .500, the missed dunk by Kur at least would've made another game much more of a photo finish but who knows how it plays out

It takes some teams awhile to learn how to close and win, regardless of age.  This Marquette team lacks a lot of experience and also lacks experience playing as a team but we are starting to see them come together as a unit.
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Re: O-Max
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2022, 09:14:01 AM »
Agree! I’m trying so hard to push the Creighton loss out of my head. But as a fan (players and coaches have moved on to the next game) it’s hard to let it go. I think everyone on this board would be anointing Shaka as the “second coming” if we were 4-1 in the BEAST. The crazy part is just how close we were to making that happen

Let it go. We could have won that Creighton game -- or lost it -- a bazillion times before the end of the first OT.

Saying we "should be" 4-1 is silly. I mean, "should" we have lost the Illinois and K-State games?

Just enjoy this team and the process, which looks to be ahead of schedule. We'll have more great wins and we'll have some losses that will frustrate you.

That's sports!
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Re: O-Max
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2022, 09:21:05 AM »
Agree! I’m trying so hard to push the Creighton loss out of my head. But as a fan (players and coaches have moved on to the next game) it’s hard to let it go. I think everyone on this board would be anointing Shaka as the “second coming” if we were 4-1 in the BEAST. The crazy part is just how close we were to making that happen

I always account for two "dud games" vs teams we should beat.  It just hurts that the Creighton game was at Fiserv and it reduces our margin for error.  But I am feeling more confident that this team can play closer to we did vs Providence the rest of the year at home.  Let's dismantle the bottom of our league for starters and then put together strong games vs the upper tier of the league.  We have seen that MU is capable of inflicting damage with a balanced arsenal on both ends of the floor and can beat every team in the conference.

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2022, 09:26:10 AM »
Hope he continues to Prosper here and Obviously Max out his potential

Nice. 

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Re: O-Max
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2022, 09:44:01 AM »
The future is bright.  Some Scoopers owe O-Max and Tyler Kolek an apology - both have tremendous upside.

I disagree on O-Max. He's showing out now, but the staff has basically seen the same things fans on Twitter and Scoop have seen. He was bad early on and his minutes got justifiably cut. The staff saw the problem and addressed it with fewer minutes. He has played better of late and his minutes have increased. The staff saw the improvement and addressed it with more minutes.

Saying O-Max was bad early on and is playing better now is simply accurate. And looking at his minute totals, the staff saw the exact same thing.

Kolek is different because even when he isn't at his best, the rest of the offense is clearly better with him than without.
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