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Its DJOver

To be fair, that was one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Smith.

The same way that there's one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Kenpom and trashes him every chance he can.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

cheebs09

Quote from: PointWarrior on June 09, 2022, 11:48:06 AM
But Scoopers told me Todd Smith is not doing his job...

Did Stevie put on too much muscle and Todd ruined him?

PointWarrior


But Kenpom analytics do not take into account the quality of the strength and conditioning coach in year to year ratings - clearly a weakness...



Quote from: Its DJOver on June 09, 2022, 12:09:26 PM
To be fair, that was one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Smith.

The same way that there's one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Kenpom and trashes him every chance he can.

Its DJOver

Yep, you've got your three drums.  Kenpom, COLE, and 50 pts. Just keep repeating them enough and people might start to take you seriously.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

wadesworld

To be fair, Stevie was built like a tank already last year. Guy was a hound as an on ball defender.

PointWarrior

You forgot the fourth - SilverWarrior's posts - I don't like them...

And the fifth - NCAA projections and discussing potential tourney matchups in pre-season, and prior to February...


Quote from: Its DJOver on June 09, 2022, 12:22:19 PM
Yep, you've got your three drums.  Kenpom, COLE, and 50 pts. Just keep repeating them enough and people might start to take you seriously.

Newsdreams

Quote from: PointWarrior on June 09, 2022, 12:28:53 PM
You forgot the fourth - SilverWarrior's posts - I don't like them...

And the fifth - NCAA projections and discussing potential tourney matchups in pre-season, and prior to February...
Crapshoot
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Its DJOver on June 09, 2022, 12:09:26 PM
To be fair, that was one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Smith.

The same way that there's one poster who seems to have a personal vendetta against Kenpom and trashes him every chance he can.


GoldenEagles03

Some Marquette health updates from Shaka Smart today.

- Grad transfer Zach Wrightsil
had a knee scope soon after arriving but should be good in July.

- Tyler Kolek had an emergency appendectomy in May (but he wanted to play the next day). #mubb

Per Ben Steele
VIOLENCE!

GoldenEagles03

Sounds like Oso had an incredible Spring and is going to be a focal point of the offense.

"He's going to handle the ball more than anyone that plays that position." Goes onto say "For bigs that want to have the ball in their hands, want to attack, want to make decisions, want to be playmakers, our style's great for that."

BIG things ahead for Oso!

https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1537170281743233024?t=vSYH7zxgVma-Dskzc9jubg&s=19
VIOLENCE!

nyg

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 15, 2022, 03:42:34 PM
Sounds like Oso had an incredible Spring and is going to be a focal point of the offense.

"He's going to handle the ball more than anyone that plays that position." Goes onto say "For bigs that want to have the ball in their hands, want to attack, want to make decisions, want to be playmakers, our style's great for that."

BIG things ahead for Oso!

https://twitter.com/DariusJoshuaTV/status/1537170281743233024?t=vSYH7zxgVma-Dskzc9jubg&s=19

Big man bringing the ball up court.  Just like Giannis, Luka, Jokic, Durant, Lebron and others do.

Next on Scoop, Oso getting drafted in 2023.  Should be interesting concept, but hope he gets in and around basket after, this team will need the big man getting some rebounds.

WolfganghisKhan

Are we going to pretend we didn't watch Oso play last year?

tower912

He improved greatly over his first year.  If he fills out and continues to improve at the same pace, why not?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on June 15, 2022, 04:29:01 PM
Are we going to pretend we didn't watch Oso play last year?

You can pretend whatever you want. Shaka said he's going to handle the ball more than any Center in the country. That's news whether you think so or not.
VIOLENCE!

panda

Quote from: tower912 on June 15, 2022, 04:41:24 PM
He improved greatly over his first year.  If he fills out and continues to improve at the same pace, why not?

I mean he never played his freshman year so it's not really a reasonable benchmark to compare the two seasons.

tower912

I would say going from 38 minutes for the season to 20-ish minutes per game is a great benchmark for comparison.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

panda

Quote from: tower912 on June 15, 2022, 05:43:12 PM
I would say going from 38 minutes for the season to 20-ish minutes per game is a great benchmark for comparison.

How can you say he improved if he never played year 1 ? Last year was his first season of real game time.

tower912

How can you say that going from non-contributor to contributor isn't improvement?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on June 15, 2022, 05:52:27 PM
How can you say that going from non-contributor to contributor isn't improvement?
This has all the makings of a classic 'scoop argument

tower912

Yes.  Going from non-contributor to contributor is ipso facto proof of improvement.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on June 15, 2022, 05:59:12 PM
Yes.  Going from non-contributor to contributor is ipso facto proof of improvement.
I'm with you.

panda

Quote from: tower912 on June 15, 2022, 05:52:27 PM
How can you say that going from non-contributor to contributor isn't improvement?

Justin Lewis improved greatly from freshman to sophomore year. Oso just never played his freshman year and this last season was his first season of game action.

Lots of promise and I'm sure he'll be greatly improved after last season and this off season.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: panda on June 15, 2022, 05:51:24 PM
How can you say he improved if he never played year 1 ? Last year was his first season of real game time.

Seriously?

panda

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 15, 2022, 07:30:36 PM
Seriously?

It's not a knock on Oso. Just thought it was odd to say he greatly improved between years one and two when we saw nothing from him year one for various reasons.

brewcity77

Quote from: panda on June 15, 2022, 08:20:40 PM
It's not a knock on Oso. Just thought it was odd to say he greatly improved between years one and two when we saw nothing from him year one for various reasons.

With the obvious one being if he was good enough for significant minutes, he would've played. Especially on a team with a losing record that didn't have another center to spell Theo John.

What's odd to say is a guy going from virtually not playing to nearly 20 mpg not being an indicator of improvement.

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