2023 Team Outlook

[Viper]

10 guys see minutes, PT often determined by matchups or hot hand. I see a replication of last season. Mid-pack in the BE, 10-seed, quick exit. But, unless someone transfers out, there will be a lot of team continuity into '23-24. That could be the turning point to better days. Regardless, please put a beat down on RED...and ND too.

[PointWarrior]

12-8 in BE, 4th or 5th

So ... Point ...

What do you predict?

As for my personal " expectations " ...
I think they should make the Dance pretty much every year.  And, a 10 year span of not Winning a single tournament game is pathetic

[Shooter McGavin]

12-8 in BE, 4th or 5th

Point is that your realistic expectation or your hope?  I know we all hold MU and Shaka to a high standard but with no go to guy on the roster on offense and a thin front line I'm not sure that's realistic.  I really hope I'm wrong and you are right by the way.

[Nukem2]

Point is that your realistic expectation or your hope?  I know we all hold MU and Shaka to a high standard but with no go to guy on the roster on offense and a thin front line I'm not sure that's realistic.  I really hope I'm wrong and you are right by the way.

Im with you at this point in time. Just so many questions. Hope I'm wrong as well, but this is just a really inexperienced team with a lack of interior physical prescence. Hoping for the best.

[PointWarrior]

I expect them to be better than last year based on a year being in Shaka's system and a year of development (with players that have upside).

Point is that your realistic expectation or your hope?  I know we all hold MU and Shaka to a high standard but with no go to guy on the roster on offense and a thin front line I'm not sure that's realistic.  I really hope I'm wrong and you are right by the way.

[MU82]

I expect them to be better than last year based on a year being in Shaka's system and a year of development (with players that have upside).

Sounds reasonable. Lots of prognosticators assume that guys will play as they did before, never accounting for improvement. I expect every returning player to get better, and a couple of them could get much better. And there's a lot to be said about comfort level within a system that was new to everybody.

But sure, there's hope involved, too. I hope that we can rebound better as a team and that we can hit enough 3s.

[Uncle Rico]

I see 16-4 in conference

[tower912]

Sounds reasonable. Lots of prognosticators assume that guys will play as they did before, never accounting for improvement. I expect every returning player to get better, and a couple of them could get much better. And there's a lot to be said about comfort level within a system that was new to everybody.

But sure, there's hope involved, too. I hope that we can rebound better as a team and that we can hit enough 3s.

Coach Smart is banking on development, improvement, and culture.

[WhiteTrash]

Sounds reasonable. Lots of prognosticators assume that guys will play as they did before, never accounting for improvement. I expect every returning player to get better, and a couple of them could get much better. And there's a lot to be said about comfort level within a system that was new to everybody.

But sure, there's hope involved, too. I hope that we can rebound better as a team and that we can hit enough 3s.

I assume you mean, not accounting for improvement relative to other college players improvement. You assume Shaka will get our players to improve more than other teams players.

[Newsdreams]

I see 16-4 in conference

20-0 or bust

[MuggsyB]

I expect us to be slightly better than last season.  However, we need to start getting the quill of these recruiting classes.  Meaning guys with quicks, handles, defensive versatility, hops, stop and pop ability from distance, glass cleaners, and a ginsu bomb type player that can take over games.

[real chili 83]

Hopefully, Joplin focused on D all off season. If he has, breakout season coming up.

[Pakuni]

Waiting for KenPom to tell me what to think.

[MU82]

I assume you mean, not accounting for improvement relative to other college players improvement. You assume Shaka will get our players to improve more than other teams players.

Not necessarily.

I expect the combination of the improvement of our returning players, combined with comfort in Shaka's system, combined with new players being integrated into the system with the help of role models who already have experienced it, will give us an advantage over many (but obviously not all) other teams.

I think that's a realistic expectation.

[PointWarrior]

And Value Add...

Waiting for KenPom to tell me what to think.

[Uncle Rico]

Waiting for KenPom to tell me what to think.

That's good.  He's far more accurate than the Joe Beer Guts on Scoop or 99% of most college basketball analysts.  It's why coaches use him

[panda]

Torvik Kenpom etc are fantastic to use when decent sample sizes of data from the current season are readily available.

It's hard to pin down pre season values for players on a team like Marquette as there are so many unknowns.

[Shooter McGavin]

I expect them to be better than last year based on a year being in Shaka's system and a year of development (with players that have upside).

Fair enough.  There are players on this team with upside for sure (hell the entire team had flashes last year). It should fun to watch a well coached team that can develop year over year.  I guess PTSD from Wojo along with no heralded recruits has me tempering my expectations.   

[PointWarrior]

Likely has Bucky at #5 to start the year...

That's good.  He's far more accurate than the Joe Beer Guts on Scoop or 99% of most college basketball analysts.  It's why coaches use him

[Uncle Rico]

Likely has Bucky at #5 to start the year...

Take it up with the college basketball coaches that use analytics such as KenPom to schedule and improve their teams. 

[MU82]

As a freshman, Justin Lewis averaged 8 ppg.

As a freshman, Sam Hauser averaged 9 ppg.

In his first 2 seasons, Vander Blue averaged 7 ppg on 40% shooting.

Jae Crowder averaged 12 ppg his first season at Marquette after coming over from JUCO ranks. Jimmy Butler averaged 6 ppg in similar scenario.

Wes averaged 11 ppg his first 3 years at MU.

Sacar Anim got better every year.

Etc, etc, etc.

Most college players improve over time, some more than others of course.

I'm looking forward to seeing how much O-Max, Kam, Oso, Kolek and others improve.

[Lennys Tap]

Wes averaged 11 ppg his first 3 years at MU.

Key the music to "Unchained Melody".

[panda]

12-8 in BE, 4th or 5th

Who is finishing behind us in this scenario? Creighton, nova, Xavier or UConn ?

[jfp61]

Who is finishing behind us in this scenario? Creighton, nova, Xavier or UConn ?

UCONN is fairly easily the worst of this group. I think marquette fans hold them in a higher regard because they are a poor matchup for marquette. I think uconn will be better than MU this year, but there are alot of scenarios where they won't be.

[MU82]

Who is finishing behind us in this scenario? Creighton, nova, Xavier or UConn ?

Yes.