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Author Topic: 2023 Team Outlook  (Read 178858 times)

MuggsyB

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1250 on: October 15, 2022, 05:16:47 PM »
If Kam becomes proficient at attacking the paint and both scoring and passing off the bounce?  Look out.  That J is a picture perfect and from deep. 

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1251 on: October 15, 2022, 05:34:06 PM »
The best of Mopes speculate negatively with no information.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1252 on: October 15, 2022, 05:35:33 PM »
The best of Mopes speculate negatively with no information.

…there is information.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1253 on: October 15, 2022, 05:55:55 PM »
Alston is a tougher guard than Golden and both seemed to have their way down low. There won't be much resistance from Marquette near the rim against prominent bigs.

Were you there or did you hear they had their way down low from someone who was there?
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1254 on: October 15, 2022, 05:57:28 PM »
Lots of rebounds given up. 9 boards for Alston and 8 for golden.

Wrightsil Oso lineups looking necessary.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1255 on: October 15, 2022, 06:26:40 PM »
Were you there or did you hear they had their way down low from someone who was there?

Neither.

I've just seen a lot of both players. Alston averaged 21 and 11 last year in D2. Plays above the rim and is an overall difficult player to guard at 6'6" as an undersize forward.

As for Marquette, they just don't have much strength down low. They'll be prone to getting "bullied" (for lack of a better term) down low.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1256 on: October 15, 2022, 06:51:51 PM »
Neither.

I've just seen a lot of both players. Alston averaged 21 and 11 last year in D2. Plays above the rim and is an overall difficult player to guard at 6'6" as an undersize forward.

As for Marquette, they just don't have much strength down low. They'll be prone to getting "bullied" (for lack of a better term) down low.

It's a fair concern.  We need Wrightsil and O-Max to find a way to battle inside. 

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1257 on: October 15, 2022, 06:59:02 PM »
Who won the scrimmage?  I have confidence in Jones & Jones.  Bryce Golden is still playing?
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1258 on: October 15, 2022, 07:04:38 PM »
Was sista Jean on hand to watch killa Kam ball out?

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1259 on: October 16, 2022, 05:22:27 PM »
…there is information.

Brew seems to think Marquette skunked Loyola (I assume that is what is meant compared to the Providence game mubb won by 31...). So...COLE?
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1260 on: October 16, 2022, 05:57:25 PM »
Brew seems to think Marquette skunked Loyola (I assume that is what is meant compared to the Providence game mubb won by 31...). So...COLE?

Don't think it was quite to that level, but also not particularly close.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1261 on: October 16, 2022, 06:13:45 PM »
Brew, what do you realistically expect from Oso?  There's been some reports he's going to handle the ball a lot for a big but I'm much more concerned with whether he can score in the half-court and defend and rebound.  I'd like to see him develop a mean streak.  Also, can this MU team create turns and get transition hoops?
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1262 on: October 16, 2022, 06:26:12 PM »
I mean, he pretty much has to be a 25-30 mpg guy just based on roster construction. I'm hoping to see him be a bit more assertive on offense. Maybe tick that usage up to 17-20%, while hopefully keeping his efficiency. He needs to be stronger. Doesn't have to protect the rim like Kur, but has to hold his own against Big East bigs. If he can be around 9/7 he should be fine. I have friends that think he could be a big breakout guy, but I need to see it first. His usage was too low for a Justin like explosion.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1263 on: October 16, 2022, 06:44:01 PM »
Until he shows he can hit a 15 footer it will be hard for him to get to the hoop since the other center can play off him

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1264 on: October 16, 2022, 07:08:35 PM »
Until he shows he can hit a 15 footer it will be hard for him to get to the hoop since the other center can play off him

I was thinking the same thing.  I do think he will benefit from extended mins but hitting some jumpers would certainly help.  He also obviously has to avoid the ticky-tack fouls. 

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« Reply #1265 on: October 16, 2022, 07:09:36 PM »
I mean, he pretty much has to be a 25-30 mpg guy just based on roster construction. I'm hoping to see him be a bit more assertive on offense. Maybe tick that usage up to 17-20%, while hopefully keeping his efficiency. He needs to be stronger. Doesn't have to protect the rim like Kur, but has to hold his own against Big East bigs. If he can be around 9/7 he should be fine. I have friends that think he could be a big breakout guy, but I need to see it first. His usage was too low for a Justin like explosion.

Ya...strength is a definite concern.  Because if he gets pushed around we're really light inside. 

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1266 on: October 16, 2022, 08:02:01 PM »
It might be great to recruit tall skinny kids if they play Like Dennis Rodman but Oso has never shown me a toughness you need, Inam hoping Zach can give them some of that but have not seen him play yet. OMax does not have that dog in him either, soft as well

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1267 on: October 16, 2022, 08:27:09 PM »
It might be great to recruit tall skinny kids if they play Like Dennis Rodman but Oso has never shown me a toughness you need, Inam hoping Zach can give them some of that but have not seen him play yet. OMax does not have that dog in him either, soft as well

There's never been anyone like Rodman.  He and Muggsy are more unicornesque than Jordan or Lebron. 

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1268 on: October 17, 2022, 06:37:30 AM »
It's a fair concern.  We need Wrightsil and O-Max to find a way to battle inside.

Hopefully Shaka screams this at them repeatedly during televised timeouts.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1269 on: October 17, 2022, 07:59:24 AM »
Hopefully Shaka screams this at them repeatedly during televised timeouts.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1270 on: October 17, 2022, 10:15:39 AM »
Don't think it was quite to that level, but also not particularly close.

Do you consider your source reliable as to their knowledge of the result of the Loyola scrimmage?

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« Reply #1271 on: October 17, 2022, 10:52:02 AM »
Do you consider your source reliable as to their knowledge of the result of the Loyola scrimmage?

Yes, very.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1272 on: October 17, 2022, 11:04:48 AM »
I mean, he pretty much has to be a 25-30 mpg guy just based on roster construction. I'm hoping to see him be a bit more assertive on offense. Maybe tick that usage up to 17-20%, while hopefully keeping his efficiency. He needs to be stronger. Doesn't have to protect the rim like Kur, but has to hold his own against Big East bigs. If he can be around 9/7 he should be fine. I have friends that think he could be a big breakout guy, but I need to see it first. His usage was too low for a Justin like explosion.

Agreed. I’m envisioning a potential increase to 16-18% usage, but something meaningfully above 20% is difficult for me to see.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1273 on: October 17, 2022, 11:05:21 AM »
Yes, very.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1274 on: October 17, 2022, 11:14:20 AM »
Yes, very.

Thanks.  Good to hear.  Kenpom has Loyola at preseason 59.  My gut feeling is that we are going to play with a lot of speed/tempo/athleticism and "violence" to where we should be able to cause problems.  Really excited to see this team play.  Think they could surprise again, similar to last year, if not slightly better.

 

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