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Next up: A long offseason

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MuggsyB

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 14, 2021, 12:37:37 PM
Among teams in the bottom half of percentage of attempts from three...

  • Arizona
  • Syracuse
  • Iona
  • Baylor
  • Minnesota
  • Gonzaga
  • Florida State
  • St. John's
  • Iowa State
  • Virginia
  • Michigan
  • Duke
  • Creighton
  • Kansas
  • Michigan State
  • West Virginia
  • Arkansas
  • USC
  • Kentucky

Five potential F4 teams on this list.

brewcity77

Quote from: MU82 on December 14, 2021, 01:38:59 PM
Interesting list, brew. The one that really jumps out at me is Creighton because they always seem like such a 3-happy team.

It's a smart adjustment for this year by McDermott. They are 10th in the nation in 2PFG% but only 237th in 3PFG%. They have 4 players who are hitting 60% or better from two. I expect they'll get back to more three-point shooting next year as two of those guys are seniors, though with COVID it might be hard to say.

mug644

Quote from: Pakuni on December 13, 2021, 04:13:07 PM
Some questions:
How does does installing a system that doesn't suit his roster this year make things better next year or the year after that? Won't the future players who do fit the system still have to get on to campus and learn it? It's not like they'll absorb it through osmosis once it's been established.

Why would he knowingly recruit players - Justin and Greg are the only two he didn't, really - to play in a system that doesn't fit their skills? If you're building an offense predicated on three-point shooting, for example, why not recruit more three-point shooters? Why not just go get kids that fit the system right away instead of installing a system with a roster that doesn't fit it and then go get players who do fit?

I agree with the idea that Shaka is trying to install a system and a culture. But I very much disagree with the idea that this year is necessarily (and by choice) a sacrificial lamb on the altar to long-term success.

As a first-year coach, his window to recruit players for this season was shorter than what it will be going forward. Of course, free transfers help. And, one might argue that he is changing his system, if not the play, then the recruitment (as he is likely to have less pressure to consistently bring in 5 star recruits who may not buy in so well).

The fact that a few players that he recruited for Texas have ended up here indicates that  he is recruiting for his system, or at least his coaching style. The fact that the players have a learning curve (both of knowledge and skills) indicates that learning a system is always a process. Just as building a culture is.

NolongerWarriors

Quote from: mug644 on December 14, 2021, 02:46:56 PM
As a first-year coach, his window to recruit players for this season was shorter than what it will be going forward. Of course, free transfers help. And, one might argue that he is changing his system, if not the play, then the recruitment (as he is likely to have less pressure to consistently bring in 5 star recruits who may not buy in so well).

The fact that a few players that he recruited for Texas have ended up here indicates that  he is recruiting for his system, or at least his coaching style. The fact that the players have a learning curve (both of knowledge and skills) indicates that learning a system is always a process. Just as building a culture is.

Aren't his recruits for next year no better than 3 star guys so far?


mug644

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 14, 2021, 04:44:10 PM
Aren't his recruits for next year no better than 3 star guys so far?

I think that part of his system is to not necessarily recruit guys that are going to star as freshmen. With the team this year, he has the need/opportunity for young guys to get playing time and, hopefully, move along well. Next year's three star freshmen shouldn't necessarily be better than this year's youngsters.

Of course, as discussed in other threads, Shaka won't turn down (or not recruit) a 4 or 5 star player that he feels fits the attitudes and skills he wants in his system.

My hope is that the foundation he is building will mean that we don't need to rely on freshmen to keep us competitive.

Then again, all that might be hogwash, since I've never spoken to Shaka about this (or any other thing).

tower912

Went through the 1988 Hilltopper last night   .   Nice graduation picture, Mug.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

mug644

Quote from: tower912 on December 14, 2021, 05:01:55 PM
Went through the 1988 Hilltopper last night   .   Nice graduation picture, Mug.

Ha. Just ha.

Herman Cain

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 14, 2021, 02:37:43 PM
It's a smart adjustment for this year by McDermott. They are 10th in the nation in 2PFG% but only 237th in 3PFG%. They have 4 players who are hitting 60% or better from two. I expect they'll get back to more three-point shooting next year as two of those guys are seniors, though with COVID it might be hard to say.
Creighton had a horrible night shooting 3s against ASU and lost at home, I guess they should have stuck with their earlier posture of taking more 2s
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on December 17, 2021, 03:39:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sZYnWctRrA

Inside basketball interview with TK.

I've enjoyed all of these, including this one. It's nice to get to "know" our players.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

wadesworld

The scouting report is out on Kolek in the Big East in a big way. He needs to adjust or this team is in some big trouble. Absolutely taken out of the game the last two games.

nyg

Quote from: BLM on February 12, 2022, 04:12:32 PM
The scouting report is out on Kolek in the Big East in a big way. He needs to adjust or this team is in some big trouble. Absolutely taken out of the game the last two games.

He has two points in last game and a half. 

Lennys Tap

Quote from: BLM on February 12, 2022, 04:12:32 PM
The scouting report is out on Kolek in the Big East in a big way. He needs to adjust or this team is in some big trouble. Absolutely taken out of the game the last two games.

Butler evidently lost the scouting report at halftime.

wadesworld

#164
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 12, 2022, 05:34:35 PM
Butler evidently lost the scouting report at halftime.

I think everyone in the league will live with a 26% three point shooter hoisting them up. Guessing that was actually continuing to follow the scouting report. Glad he made a couple to make it a respectable losing margin.

tower912

Bad shooters for Butler had good games, too.   Can't not shoot open looks.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

The scouting report is...don't switch when he drives. And it is largely working. We aren't getting the easy looks at the rim like we were early.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Lennys Tap

Quote from: BLM on February 12, 2022, 04:12:32 PM
The scouting report is out on Kolek in the Big East in a big way. He needs to adjust or this team is in some big trouble. Absolutely taken out of the game the last two games.

Just so I have this right. The "scouting report" on Kolek  was just released last Tuesday and due to that we're in "some big trouble". Fortunately it wasn't released until we had beaten Villanova twice, Seton Hall twice, Xavier and Providence and reached #18 in the Polls.

How big do you think the big trouble is? Will we collapse down the stretch like recent Marquette teams?


wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 12, 2022, 06:13:10 PM
The scouting report is...don't switch when he drives. And it is largely working. We aren't getting the easy looks at the rim like we were early.

Exactly. The scouting report is now out.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: BLM on February 12, 2022, 06:34:12 PM
Exactly. The scouting report is now out.

Just recently. 

The Sultan

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 12, 2022, 06:42:00 PM
Just recently. 


No it has been out awhile. They have overcome it at times. Like Morsell v Nova. But his effectiveness has dropped because opposing coaches know he's the key to the offense. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 12, 2022, 06:46:30 PM

No it has been out awhile. They have overcome it at times. Like Morsell v Nova. But his effectiveness has dropped because opposing coaches know he's the key to the offense.

*Sarcasm

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Vander Blue Man Group


jfp61

Kolek is the second most efficient offensive player on our team over the last 4 games.

Morsell and Kur have been the least efficient starters.

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