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Author Topic: Kolek or Carton?  (Read 1889 times)

Uncle Rico

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Re: Kolek or Carton?
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2021, 10:11:08 AM »
I see where you’re going here, and I can see both sides.

However, more circumstantial evidence here but I think you’re missing a big smoking gun- Tyler Kolek and a push for Darryl Morsell.

I know some might think it’s crazy that DJC would leave because Tyler came in, but I don’t think it’s that far fetched.

April 14th/15th Shaka announced all those new signings, and Kolek was a big one. Two weeks later, DJ was gone.

That two week period where Shaka bunkered up and recruited his tail off is an amazing point in MUbb history now that we see what we have.

He did things so differently- there was the famous photo of him on the phone outside the Al- there were no leaks, no one on the outside had any idea what he was up to. He just worked tirelessly and pretty much put this current team together in those two weeks. Darryl was left to get, but Shaka was still working on coach Haynes (if memory serves) and obviously hopeful that Morsell would be the final piece.

I think that Shaka going and getting Tyler, along with his hope on bringing in Darryl, likely told DJC that he wouldn’t be the only alpha at the point and that time would be split.

In the same breath I think Shaka recruited Kur and OMax knowing Dawson was likely out the door. May not have been official but it’s almost as if he made the decision that whoever was committed would stay, but that he had to recruit to fill the needs before the options became limited.

He moved quickly and stealthily, he moved efficiently and fantastically.
And here we are

All last year, we heard DJ was one and done at Marquette.  And he was.

I suppose we can do the scoop thing and wildly speculate.

Maybe I’m really stupid but him staying in the draft and not transferring again seems like solid evidence what we heard all last year was probably true.

Or maybe Shaka told him the A-10 ROY was better and he’d struggle for PT.  Yes, that seems more likely
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Re: Kolek or Carton?
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2021, 10:43:04 AM »
Retire already so the rest of us can make some money!



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Re: Kolek or Carton?
« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2021, 11:07:13 AM »

Maybe I’m really stupid but him staying in the draft and not transferring again seems like solid evidence what we heard all last year was probably true.

Or maybe Shaka told him the A-10 ROY was better and he’d struggle for PT.  Yes, that seems more likely

You’re not stupid, you seem pretty smart!

I never said that second part though.
I moreso meant maybe DJ saw the writing in the wall that he wouldn’t get 35 mpg of pg play.

Otherwise, perhaps all those tweets loving the shaka cop by the university were just Carton caring about the future of Marquette, since he knew he was going the pro route the entire time!

Or maybe kid just doesn’t really know what he wants until shortly before he makes a decision. Millenials or GenZers I tell ya…

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Re: Kolek or Carton?
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2021, 11:25:24 AM »
You know, it's entirely possible, if not likely, that DJ's decision to turn pro had nothing to do with Shaka. Maybe his family needed money. Maybe he didn't like college. Maybe he believed he would develop better and improve his long-term prospects as a full-time professional player.



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Re: Kolek or Carton?
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2021, 11:32:28 AM »
He’s making more than shutting up and dribbling in Milwaukee, aina
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Re: Kolek or Carton?
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2021, 12:00:02 PM »
Wrong.  By a lot. 

You could say DJ is a better athlete, by a lot, but that's about it.

We can agree to disagree. Carton will get a cup of coffee in the NBA, I'd be surprised if Kolek does but would certainly be happy to be wrong.

BTW better at basketball doesn't necessarily mean better for this year's team
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