Lunardi says we are gonna dance!

[Sturgeon General Warrior]

Good explainer.

It's still stoopid to incentivize 30-point vs 20-point wins.

Mostly agree with everything you've said and would define it like this: nothing that happens in the game after the outcome is no longer in doubt should affect either teams NET. Seems like you could implement by having any plays that happen while one team has a higher than 99.9% win probability not count towards efficiency ratings.

[Uncle Rico]

Mostly agree with everything you've said and would define it like this: nothing that happens in the game after the outcome is no longer in doubt should affect either teams NET. Seems like you could implement by having any plays that happen while one team has a higher than 99.9% win probability not count towards efficiency ratings.

Great teams embarrass their opponents

[PGsHeroes32]

Up to a 6 with Lunardi.


Joey and Co are the 3 seed.

[Uncle Rico]

Up to a 6 with Lunardi.


Joey and Co are the 3 seed.

That would be amazing.  Sparty turns the ball over a LOT but rebound very well.  All fun speculation, however.

[MU82]

Mostly agree with everything you've said and would define it like this: nothing that happens in the game after the outcome is no longer in doubt should affect either teams NET. Seems like you could implement by having any plays that happen while one team has a higher than 99.9% win probability not count towards efficiency ratings.

That change would make a lot of sense ... so there's probably no chance of it happening!

[1SE]

Up to a 6 with Lunardi.


Joey and Co are the 3 seed.

Interesting no BE team on the bubble and 7 in. A bit gulf between top 7 and bottom 4.

[zcg2013]

Up to a 6 with Lunardi.


Joey and Co are the 3 seed.

Not sure there's a team I would rather play than MSU in the second round. Justin would pull a Ja over Joey and send him packing.

[YaBlueIt]

Interesting no BE team on the bubble and 7 in. A bit gulf between top 7 and bottom 4.

This "gulf" is real and is backed up when you look at adjusted offensive and defensive efficiencies for each team, as Paint Touches noted.

https://twitter.com/PaintTouches/status/1485713853459664904?s=20

We win our games against the bottom 4 and go .500 against the other top 6 and we're doing more than ok.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

This "gulf" is real and is backed up when you look at adjusted offensive and defensive efficiencies for each team, as Paint Touches noted.

https://twitter.com/PaintTouches/status/1485713853459664904?s=20

We win our games against the bottom 4 and go .500 against the other top 6 and we're doing more than ok.

I mean, yeah...what you just described is a 14-6 Big East record.  You could win the league with that.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I mean, yeah...what you just described is a 14-6 Big East record.  You could win the league with that.

To quote Legs, "Doable".

[MU82]

I mean, yeah...what you just described is a 14-6 Big East record.  You could win the league with that.

That would be groovy, baby!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

We win our games against the bottom 4 and go .500 against the other top 6 and we're doing more than ok.

I was going to make a post about being careful because the bottom 4 can sneak up on you...but then I looked and so far that's only true if you are Seton Hall. The top 7 are 18-2 against the bottom 4 so far and both losses are by Seton Hall (vs St. John's and @DePaul).

[Galway Eagle]

I mean, yeah...what you just described is a 14-6 Big East record.  You could win the league with that.

Unless providence Covid pauses all their remaining games to get the best win %

[YaBlueIt]

That would be groovy, baby!

If we can split the next 4 games... all's I'm sayin

[MU82]

I put St. John's in a bit of a different category than Georgetown, Butler and DePaul. The Johnnies' style, combined with the ability of Champagnie to take over a game, makes them more dangerous IMHO.

Georgetown and Butler are really bad. That better be 4-0. DePaul certainly should be 2-0 ... but we've had some good teams that have lost to some of their bad teams, so I'm always relieved when the games against them are over and we have the W.

[YaBlueIt]

I was going to make a post about being careful because the bottom 4 can sneak up on you...but then I looked and so far that's only true if you are Seton Hall. The top 7 are 18-2 against the bottom 4 so far and both losses are by Seton Hall (vs St. John's and @DePaul).

Still nobody is immune to laying a dud on any given week. I got a little carried away, but my point originally meant to be that if we take care of business against the lower tier, which is totally doable, it opens up a lot of possibilities.

[MUMonster03]

I put St. John's in a bit of a different category than Georgetown, Butler and DePaul. The Johnnies' style, combined with the ability of Champagnie to take over a game, makes them more dangerous IMHO.

Georgetown and Butler are really bad. That better be 4-0. DePaul certainly should be 2-0 ... but we've had some good teams that have lost to some of their bad teams, so I'm always relieved when the games against them are over and we have the W.

Georgetown is losing by an average of 17 points a game in Big East play, will be interesting to see if Ewing can survive this.

[Lennys Tap]

I was going to make a post about being careful because the bottom 4 can sneak up on you...but then I looked and so far that's only true if you are Seton Hall. The top 7 are 18-2 against the bottom 4 so far and both losses are by Seton Hall (vs St. John's and @DePaul).

Seton Hall is now in the bottom 4 - St. John's moved out.

[brewcity77]

I was going to make a post about being careful because the bottom 4 can sneak up on you...but then I looked and so far that's only true if you are Seton Hall. The top 7 are 18-2 against the bottom 4 so far and both losses are by Seton Hall (vs St. John's and @DePaul).

Seton Hall has a sneaky questionable resume. The two marquee wins over preseason #5 Texas and #6 Michigan that lifted them to the top-15 in the country with pundits saying they were going to dethrone Villanova suddenly are wins over a pair of unranked teams closer to the bubble than protected seeds, and losses to DePaul and St. John's don't help matters.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Seton Hall is now in the bottom 4 - St. John's moved out.

I wasn't talking about standings. I was talking about the previously mentioned gulf between SJU/DPL/BUT/GTWN and the rest of the league

[muwarrior69]

I was going to make a post about being careful because the bottom 4 can sneak up on you...but then I looked and so far that's only true if you are Seton Hall. The top 7 are 18-2 against the bottom 4 so far and both losses are by Seton Hall (vs St. John's and @DePaul).

I know its early and it looks like well get a bid. I know we can't play in Milwaukee for the first round so my gut tells me we'll be playing on the West Coast which is where the committee likes to dump us. My question is what is the probability of us playing in Chicago if we make it to the sweet 16. Now wouldn't that be sweet.

[StillAWarrior]

I wasn't talking about standings. I was talking about the previously mentioned gulf between SJU/DPL/BUT/GTWN and the rest of the league

But I think the question is:  how big is the "previously discussed gulf" if SH is behind SJU in the league standings at 3-5 and has lost to SJU and DPL? Are we sure it's a 7-4 gulf? Or might it be a 6-5 gulf? SH has three wins in conference: BUT/SJU/UCONN. Tonight could be telling, but I'm not 100% sure which side of the gulf SH is on these days.

[Spotcheck Billy]

I assume Nova is playing so many games on campus because they are shooting for the Sweet 16 in Phila.

[brewcity77]

I assume Nova is playing so many games on campus because they are shooting for the Sweet 16 in Phila.

They are. As long as they play no more than 3 games at Wells-Fargo, they can play there in the Regional Round, though they will have competition for that spot. They probably need to be no worse than the 6th overall seed (or the top 3-seed) to guarantee Philly.

[PGsHeroes32]

Now hes got us with another opening round date with Murray State.

Cruel man